Everything is possible just mostly improbable, especially in our life time but who knows what may happen in 100-500 years time.
Oh... bugger. Wait! I don't have a ski, the VR environment just made me think I did. Turns out it's just a fork. Still fine, unless there's a long chain of VR environments, each causing me to believe I'm in another, or there's some form of illusory magic causing me to think that the ski is a fork.wildpeaks said:The whale is fatally wounded, you just happen to be stucked in a VR environment that tries to convince you otherwise.J03bot said:Unlikely; I lost my skis a few months ago in a fairly bad accident.Shankity Stick said:Maybe you are killing a whale with a sharpened ski, you just don't realize it.J03bot said:So, different dimensions, and magic.
That's like asking "If absolutely everything is possible, is anything impossible"
Also, me, in this reality, right now, killing a whale with a sharpened ski. Not happening!
(Yay! A loophole!)
*looks down*
When did I get a new pair of skis?
And why is one of them stuck in a whale?
More importantly, how the hell did a whale fit into my room?
It's fine, the whale isn't fatally wounded. Thus you are proved wrong!
Not impossible, Improbable. According to Quantum physics it is entirely possible for you to walk through a wall. Unfortunately for this to happen, the electromagnetic field generated by every atom in your body (which is a lot of individual electromagnetic fields) would have to glitch out and not interact with the electromagnetic field generated by the atoms in the wall which is also a lot of individual electromagnetic fields. That combined with the improbability of a single one of your atoms passing through a wall makes it very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very ,very... very,very,very... very, very unlikely.SakSak said:Yet another contender for my challenge:Canid117 said:So I am going to have to say that anything is technically possible it just probably isn't going to happen.
Disprove logic, without using logic while at it (as otherwise it will end up being a circular argument that is proof of nothing).
If you deem this impossible, then not everything is possible.
I'm done with this argument. No one on earth can disprove logic because logic is the only way we know how to prove/disprove anything, making your argument correct about earth, not everything everywere everyposobility <=(if that isn't a real word then I coin it and demand it be included in the next dictionary).SakSak said:He said: "I dare anyone to disprove ANYTHING, if you factor in magic, other planets, and alternate dimensions."
And
"My logic is that we can't prove that something definitely doesn't exist/ happen somewhere out there. That is the one thing that is impossible."
I believe I have proven by logical argument that logic cannot be disproved. He has yet to counter that argument without using logic while at it.
Also, he does not mention logical absolutes or concepts separate from reality anywhere in his OP.
You just straight up ignored half of my argument. Whatever I will just restate it(and make it more blatant and long so you don't miss it again!Shankity Stick said:I'm not taking offense, simply correcting your mistake. Also, comparing twins to dimension copies is futile. Twins are different people with different mindsets, going through different things. Dimension copies are the exact same person only in a different world with one changed detail that changes circumstance.
Thank you sir, for proving that you lack reading comprehension. I attemped to show you the inherent flaw n his original argument, but apparently overestimated you ability or willingness to think on this:spartan231490 said:that means proving a negative.
Idiots, proving my point sinse 1995.
Then make an argument for why logic is tied to this particular reality. Make an argument for why concepts cannot cross hypothetical borders between universes.Shankity Stick said:I'm done with this argument. No one on earth can disprove logic because logic is the only way we know how to prove/disprove anything, making your argument correct about earth, not everything everywere everyposobility <=(if that isn't a real word then I coin it and demand it be included in the next dictionary).SakSak said:He said: "I dare anyone to disprove ANYTHING, if you factor in magic, other planets, and alternate dimensions."
And
"My logic is that we can't prove that something definitely doesn't exist/ happen somewhere out there. That is the one thing that is impossible."
I believe I have proven by logical argument that logic cannot be disproved. He has yet to counter that argument without using logic while at it.
Also, he does not mention logical absolutes or concepts separate from reality anywhere in his OP.
You made the claim my friend. The burden of proof is on you.MurderousToaster said:And have you done anything to prove that it is possible to divide by zero? All you have done is say "Your argument is invalid because you cannot expand."
But each dimensional copy will have a copy with just one change, as will each of those, as will each of those... Whilst this theory will lead to a few universes in which the exact same thing occurs, it will also lead to some where the sheer number of differences results in a radically changed setting.Shankity Stick said:I'm not taking offense, simply correcting your mistake. Also, comparing twins to dimension copies is futile. Twins are different people with different mindsets, going through different things. Dimension copies are the exact same person only in a different world with one changed detail that changes circumstance.crudus said:First off, I prefer saying "he" or "she" rather than "(s)he" or "he/she". It flows so much better when hearing and looks better when reading. I also prefer saying "she" when gender is irrelevant or unknown (and therefore irrelevant) just because it is different. Taking offense to it is your problem. Moving on: no, you do not want to get into a debate about philosophy with me. It has been proven that people with the same DNA aren't exactly alike even grown up in the exact same environment. Those "different circumstances" are a change in the environment which means that you cannot be the same person because they will react differently to a stimulus whether slightly or differently. Even twins like I described react to things slightly differently and have their own thoughts and emotions.Shankity Stick said:First of all, I'm a guy. Secondly, it depends on how dimensions work. Maybe they are universes where there are alternate versions of people but they are completely different. Or you could believe (as I do) that dimensions are mirror images of each other with one detail changed, altering their existence. The people would still be the same people, just under different circumstances.
Quantum Mechanics does not extend to concepts.Canid117 said:Not impossible, Improbable. According to Quantum physics it is entirely possible for you to walk through a wall. Unfortunately for this to happen, the electromagnetic field generated by every atom in your body (which is a lot of individual electromagnetic fields) would have to glitch out and not interact with the electromagnetic field generated by the atoms in the wall which is also a lot of individual electromagnetic fields. That combined with the improbability of a single one of your atoms passing through a wall makes it very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very ,very... very,very,very... very, very unlikely.SakSak said:Yet another contender for my challenge:Canid117 said:So I am going to have to say that anything is technically possible it just probably isn't going to happen.
Disprove logic, without using logic while at it (as otherwise it will end up being a circular argument that is proof of nothing).
If you deem this impossible, then not everything is possible.
The thing is, I don't have to. I just have to say that somewhere, logic could not exits. Why don't you try to disprove that.SakSak said:Then make an argument for why logic is tied to this particular reality. Make an argument for why concepts cannot cross hypothetical borders between universes.Shankity Stick said:I'm done with this argument. No one on earth can disprove logic because logic is the only way we know how to prove/disprove anything, making your argument correct about earth, not everything everywere everyposobility <=(if that isn't a real word then I coin it and demand it be included in the next dictionary).SakSak said:He said: "I dare anyone to disprove ANYTHING, if you factor in magic, other planets, and alternate dimensions."
And
"My logic is that we can't prove that something definitely doesn't exist/ happen somewhere out there. That is the one thing that is impossible."
I believe I have proven by logical argument that logic cannot be disproved. He has yet to counter that argument without using logic while at it.
Also, he does not mention logical absolutes or concepts separate from reality anywhere in his OP.
Make an argument for why, even in theory, it would be possible for someone, somewhere, to disprove logic without using logic.
If you cannot, admit that you are wrong and that there are things that cannot be done.
the "laws of physics" is something that we made up because we can't figure out a way to break them.crudus said:Even different dimensions have laws of physics that can't be broken. They are different laws but laws nonetheless. Note he didn't say "out laws of physics" but "laws of physics" in general which means they change when you change universes (probably).Shankity Stick said:Different dimensions man.Susano said:Breaking the laws of physics.
Why don't you try to disprove the fact that he just disproved you. I'm not saying he did, just disprove it for me.Shankity Stick said:The thing is, I don't have to. I just have to say that somewhere, logic could not exits. Why don't you try to disprove that.SakSak said:Then make an argument for why logic is tied to this particular reality. Make an argument for why concepts cannot cross hypothetical borders between universes.Shankity Stick said:I'm done with this argument. No one on earth can disprove logic because logic is the only way we know how to prove/disprove anything, making your argument correct about earth, not everything everywere everyposobility <=(if that isn't a real word then I coin it and demand it be included in the next dictionary).SakSak said:He said: "I dare anyone to disprove ANYTHING, if you factor in magic, other planets, and alternate dimensions."
And
"My logic is that we can't prove that something definitely doesn't exist/ happen somewhere out there. That is the one thing that is impossible."
I believe I have proven by logical argument that logic cannot be disproved. He has yet to counter that argument without using logic while at it.
Also, he does not mention logical absolutes or concepts separate from reality anywhere in his OP.
Make an argument for why, even in theory, it would be possible for someone, somewhere, to disprove logic without using logic.
If you cannot, admit that you are wrong and that there are things that cannot be done.
"Everything is what it is, and cannot be what it is not."Shankity Stick said:The thing is, I don't have to. I just have to say that somewhere, logic could not exits. Why don't you try to disprove that.SakSak said:Then make an argument for why logic is tied to this particular reality. Make an argument for why concepts cannot cross hypothetical borders between universes.Shankity Stick said:I'm done with this argument. No one on earth can disprove logic because logic is the only way we know how to prove/disprove anything, making your argument correct about earth, not everything everywere everyposobility <=(if that isn't a real word then I coin it and demand it be included in the next dictionary).SakSak said:He said: "I dare anyone to disprove ANYTHING, if you factor in magic, other planets, and alternate dimensions."
And
"My logic is that we can't prove that something definitely doesn't exist/ happen somewhere out there. That is the one thing that is impossible."
I believe I have proven by logical argument that logic cannot be disproved. He has yet to counter that argument without using logic while at it.
Also, he does not mention logical absolutes or concepts separate from reality anywhere in his OP.
Make an argument for why, even in theory, it would be possible for someone, somewhere, to disprove logic without using logic.
If you cannot, admit that you are wrong and that there are things that cannot be done.