Poll: Is batman a superhero?
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You may argue sufficiently to any effect that any of the 'non-superhero' characters on your list are 'super' or not.Shadows Inc. said:
For example: Green Lantern - Yes, the ring is technically a conduit for an energy source and is thus a form of technology. However, it is the will of the person wearing it that enables the ring to function. Thus, you could say that all of the Green Lanterns have 'super' willpower, because the rings choose them for their exceptional ('superhuman', in the case of human GLs) will.
Batman, Blue Beetle, Catwoman, and Iron Man are even hazier on their use of technology as a 'super' ability. One could argue, however, that their ability to use and develop these advanced technologies is itself a super power. Granted, it is kind of a weak argument to say that advanced technology is akin to magic, but it's a valid philosophy that many share.
Of the group mentioned, I believe that Batman still does have a superpower in spite of his use of advanced technology - his detective ability. His ability to know instinctually what criminals are up to, and what their next moves will be surpasses even super-powered heroes like Superman. You could chalk this up as a byproduct of the same intellect he uses to come up with gadgets, but it is worth noting that the amount of investigation Batman does is minimal when compared to his innate 'crime-sense'.
Investigation = the act of gathering evidence and deducing a sequence of events.
Super Detective Sense = knowing that the Joker is going to kidnap the mayor because you find a deck of cards minus a King and a Joker at the scene of a crime.
This is quite true. I hate it when people say 'They don't have super-powers, so they don't count' because come off it! Think about it - lets use Iron man as an example. He wasn't born with powers, or bitten by a radioactive spider, or some junk like that. He invented a device that could let him fly and fight crime. I mean come on!Samwise137 said:
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Sadly, I've never read the comics, so I'm really just basing my veiw of him off of the Micheal Keaton/Christian Bale versions. Which means there is a good chance that I've got the wrong idea of Batman.Aurgelmir said:
I was only giving my input. I have my own reasons for saying what I do and I'll just keep them to myself, because initiating an argument about "superheros" is just about as pointless as arguing about whether or not potato-salad should be a byproduct of Cold-Fusion.CaptainCrunch said:
Here's something though... The second "The Beetle" and Robin, both didn't develop either their weapons, gear, apparel, tools, or other gadgets, and they don't rely too heavily on "Figuring things out". Also, if you are taking into account "development" of gear as a superpower, then justifying Catwoman is an ill point to uphold. Catwoman's only "gear" (if any) is specialized sharpened claws for cutting glass. Other than that, she mainly uses standard burglary rope and gear. The only thing going for her is that she is an amazing acrobat, but that is "humanly" possible and a-dime-a-dozen. Also arguing that the "will" of the Green Lantern is superhuman, is comparable with saying that the "will" of my car makes it drive itself (I know that's how the superpower works, it's just weird). The fact is, his will was that of an ordinary man. Do you know why? Because he was an ordinary man. The first Green Lantern was a man named Alan Scott, and he was a normal everyday railroad worker. One day he stumbled onto the ring, magically figured out what it did, and used it for good in a ridiculous costume that looked like he just found some green sweatpants, a orange hoodie, slapped an insignia on his chest and put on a cape.
Not really but considering everything he's done over the past couple of decades he might as well have the title.
I've already entered this thread and told how I measure Super-heroes by their actions, not whether they are post/meta-humans.
But a very important note is that Batman has been shown to have Strength and Endurance equal or greater than some heroes/villains that have (albeit lesser/minor) super strength, simply due to his immense amount of training and willpower.
But a very important note is that Batman has been shown to have Strength and Endurance equal or greater than some heroes/villains that have (albeit lesser/minor) super strength, simply due to his immense amount of training and willpower.
Of course he is. He doesn't have super powers, but he beats the crap out of Superman. Plus, he's still popular even after Batman and Robin. That's probably a power.