Poll: Is it ok for parents to spank their kids?

dead.juice

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Xarran said:
dead.juice said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
Uh, no.

You don't hit or smack a random person on the street who mis-behaves or plays up, so why do it to a small child just because they're yours?
I can't take away a random person's stuff on the street, tell them what they can eat for dinner, make them go to school, tell them what time to go to bed, ground them, tell them to go to the doctor...etc....

Children are not just small adults. They do not have the rights of adults, parents do have a certain amount of control and rights over thier kids that do not apply to strangers on the street.
I know, but spanking/smacking, basically physically (and emotionally) harming your child is not a right a parent has. It's abusing your position as primary carer, it's cruel.

Seriously, as a Mother, I've seen small children be punished and it's a horrific sight to see when you have your own.
That's an arbitray statement on your part.

I've seen kids in this very forum talk about how cruel it is for their parents to take away their PC/internet/xbox/etc for being bad.

If the level of violence is appropriate, I'm not convinced that a smack on the bum is any more harmful to a child than any other punishment (my daughter certainly cries a lot when I say no to her about anything, she'll live)
So, when/if your Daughter is in school and she just so happened to attack another child for being mean to her, how do you tell her it's wrong when you smack her yourself? (You didn't say you did smack her, just sayin')

Parents are suppose to lead examples to their children, show them how to be in the big, real world, not smack them that it becomes so normal they'll think it's OK to do it to others.

And what does telling your Daughter no have to do with it? I tell mine no, she fusses and sometimes kicks up a stink, but that's normal child behavior and testing boundaries. I wouldn't physically attack her over it, though.
Parents do lots of things kids can't do to each others. Kids learn that pretty quick. "Don't touch the stove, that's just for adults". I can take her toy away if she is misusing it, she can't take away another child's toy. etc
I have to say; I do find your example funny. Don't touch the stove because it's very hot and can cause you physical pain, yet, I can smack you and cause you physical pain which could potentially emotionally scar/stick in your head longer because my own Mummy/Daddy did it to me. You know those people that're meant to protect me from danger, not cause it?


I'm fully aware I'm one-sided about this, but nothing will convince me or make me think raising a hand to your own child is acceptable, ever.
There is a true story about a Canadian girl that had several children, including a baby. They had an open fireplace in their house, and the neighbors always told her to "Burn her baby", to teach it to stay away from the fire. She couldn't bring herself to do it though. One night, the baby crawled into the fire with his blankets, got horribly burned. He lived for two days.
I'm not trying to change your mind, it's just food for thought.
So to teach you that crossing a road can be dangerous ill run you over with my car. That will teach you a lesson!
Your not very good with metaphors, and you have no idea how learning works.
That makes sense, considering how stubborn you are.
I didn't say they told her to roll here kid into the fire, they recommended that she take his finger and touch the stove with it. It's a simple way to make him stay away from fire, at least until he can comprehend it.
 

Xarran

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dead.juice said:
Xarran said:
dead.juice said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
Uh, no.

You don't hit or smack a random person on the street who mis-behaves or plays up, so why do it to a small child just because they're yours?
I can't take away a random person's stuff on the street, tell them what they can eat for dinner, make them go to school, tell them what time to go to bed, ground them, tell them to go to the doctor...etc....

Children are not just small adults. They do not have the rights of adults, parents do have a certain amount of control and rights over thier kids that do not apply to strangers on the street.
I know, but spanking/smacking, basically physically (and emotionally) harming your child is not a right a parent has. It's abusing your position as primary carer, it's cruel.

Seriously, as a Mother, I've seen small children be punished and it's a horrific sight to see when you have your own.
That's an arbitray statement on your part.

I've seen kids in this very forum talk about how cruel it is for their parents to take away their PC/internet/xbox/etc for being bad.

If the level of violence is appropriate, I'm not convinced that a smack on the bum is any more harmful to a child than any other punishment (my daughter certainly cries a lot when I say no to her about anything, she'll live)
So, when/if your Daughter is in school and she just so happened to attack another child for being mean to her, how do you tell her it's wrong when you smack her yourself? (You didn't say you did smack her, just sayin')

Parents are suppose to lead examples to their children, show them how to be in the big, real world, not smack them that it becomes so normal they'll think it's OK to do it to others.

And what does telling your Daughter no have to do with it? I tell mine no, she fusses and sometimes kicks up a stink, but that's normal child behavior and testing boundaries. I wouldn't physically attack her over it, though.
Parents do lots of things kids can't do to each others. Kids learn that pretty quick. "Don't touch the stove, that's just for adults". I can take her toy away if she is misusing it, she can't take away another child's toy. etc
I have to say; I do find your example funny. Don't touch the stove because it's very hot and can cause you physical pain, yet, I can smack you and cause you physical pain which could potentially emotionally scar/stick in your head longer because my own Mummy/Daddy did it to me. You know those people that're meant to protect me from danger, not cause it?


I'm fully aware I'm one-sided about this, but nothing will convince me or make me think raising a hand to your own child is acceptable, ever.
There is a true story about a Canadian girl that had several children, including a baby. They had an open fireplace in their house, and the neighbors always told her to "Burn her baby", to teach it to stay away from the fire. She couldn't bring herself to do it though. One night, the baby crawled into the fire with his blankets, got horribly burned. He lived for two days.
I'm not trying to change your mind, it's just food for thought.
So to teach you that crossing a road can be dangerous ill run you over with my car. That will teach you a lesson!
Your not very good with metaphors, and you have no idea how learning works.
That makes sense, considering how stubborn you are.
I guess you dont know how a joke works?
 

dead.juice

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Xarran said:
dead.juice said:
Xarran said:
dead.juice said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
Uh, no.

You don't hit or smack a random person on the street who mis-behaves or plays up, so why do it to a small child just because they're yours?
I can't take away a random person's stuff on the street, tell them what they can eat for dinner, make them go to school, tell them what time to go to bed, ground them, tell them to go to the doctor...etc....

Children are not just small adults. They do not have the rights of adults, parents do have a certain amount of control and rights over thier kids that do not apply to strangers on the street.
I know, but spanking/smacking, basically physically (and emotionally) harming your child is not a right a parent has. It's abusing your position as primary carer, it's cruel.

Seriously, as a Mother, I've seen small children be punished and it's a horrific sight to see when you have your own.
That's an arbitray statement on your part.

I've seen kids in this very forum talk about how cruel it is for their parents to take away their PC/internet/xbox/etc for being bad.

If the level of violence is appropriate, I'm not convinced that a smack on the bum is any more harmful to a child than any other punishment (my daughter certainly cries a lot when I say no to her about anything, she'll live)
So, when/if your Daughter is in school and she just so happened to attack another child for being mean to her, how do you tell her it's wrong when you smack her yourself? (You didn't say you did smack her, just sayin')

Parents are suppose to lead examples to their children, show them how to be in the big, real world, not smack them that it becomes so normal they'll think it's OK to do it to others.

And what does telling your Daughter no have to do with it? I tell mine no, she fusses and sometimes kicks up a stink, but that's normal child behavior and testing boundaries. I wouldn't physically attack her over it, though.
Parents do lots of things kids can't do to each others. Kids learn that pretty quick. "Don't touch the stove, that's just for adults". I can take her toy away if she is misusing it, she can't take away another child's toy. etc
I have to say; I do find your example funny. Don't touch the stove because it's very hot and can cause you physical pain, yet, I can smack you and cause you physical pain which could potentially emotionally scar/stick in your head longer because my own Mummy/Daddy did it to me. You know those people that're meant to protect me from danger, not cause it?


I'm fully aware I'm one-sided about this, but nothing will convince me or make me think raising a hand to your own child is acceptable, ever.
There is a true story about a Canadian girl that had several children, including a baby. They had an open fireplace in their house, and the neighbors always told her to "Burn her baby", to teach it to stay away from the fire. She couldn't bring herself to do it though. One night, the baby crawled into the fire with his blankets, got horribly burned. He lived for two days.
I'm not trying to change your mind, it's just food for thought.
So to teach you that crossing a road can be dangerous ill run you over with my car. That will teach you a lesson!
Your not very good with metaphors, and you have no idea how learning works.
That makes sense, considering how stubborn you are.
I guess you dont know how a joke works?
Actually I do. They're supposed to be funny for one, and they're usually not just shoved recklessly into the middle of a discussion. I could have swore it was just a really shitty metaphor, my bad.
 

Xarran

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dead.juice said:
Xarran said:
dead.juice said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
Uh, no.

You don't hit or smack a random person on the street who mis-behaves or plays up, so why do it to a small child just because they're yours?
I can't take away a random person's stuff on the street, tell them what they can eat for dinner, make them go to school, tell them what time to go to bed, ground them, tell them to go to the doctor...etc....

Children are not just small adults. They do not have the rights of adults, parents do have a certain amount of control and rights over thier kids that do not apply to strangers on the street.
I know, but spanking/smacking, basically physically (and emotionally) harming your child is not a right a parent has. It's abusing your position as primary carer, it's cruel.

Seriously, as a Mother, I've seen small children be punished and it's a horrific sight to see when you have your own.
That's an arbitray statement on your part.

I've seen kids in this very forum talk about how cruel it is for their parents to take away their PC/internet/xbox/etc for being bad.

If the level of violence is appropriate, I'm not convinced that a smack on the bum is any more harmful to a child than any other punishment (my daughter certainly cries a lot when I say no to her about anything, she'll live)
So, when/if your Daughter is in school and she just so happened to attack another child for being mean to her, how do you tell her it's wrong when you smack her yourself? (You didn't say you did smack her, just sayin')

Parents are suppose to lead examples to their children, show them how to be in the big, real world, not smack them that it becomes so normal they'll think it's OK to do it to others.

And what does telling your Daughter no have to do with it? I tell mine no, she fusses and sometimes kicks up a stink, but that's normal child behavior and testing boundaries. I wouldn't physically attack her over it, though.
Parents do lots of things kids can't do to each others. Kids learn that pretty quick. "Don't touch the stove, that's just for adults". I can take her toy away if she is misusing it, she can't take away another child's toy. etc
I have to say; I do find your example funny. Don't touch the stove because it's very hot and can cause you physical pain, yet, I can smack you and cause you physical pain which could potentially emotionally scar/stick in your head longer because my own Mummy/Daddy did it to me. You know those people that're meant to protect me from danger, not cause it?


I'm fully aware I'm one-sided about this, but nothing will convince me or make me think raising a hand to your own child is acceptable, ever.
There is a true story about a Canadian girl that had several children, including a baby. They had an open fireplace in their house, and the neighbors always told her to "Burn her baby", to teach it to stay away from the fire. She couldn't bring herself to do it though. One night, the baby crawled into the fire with his blankets, got horribly burned. He lived for two days.
I'm not trying to change your mind, it's just food for thought.
So to teach you that crossing a road can be dangerous ill run you over with my car. That will teach you a lesson!
Your not very good with metaphors, and you have no idea how learning works.
That makes sense, considering how stubborn you are.
I didn't say they told her to roll here kid into the fire, they recommended that she take his finger and touch the stove with it. It's a simple way to make him stay away from fire, at least until he can comprehend it.
I fully understood that was trying to make a joke:) But you must admit teaching the child to respect the fire is better than fear the fire. Fear is effective as is a smack in the bottom, but respecting when your father says stop is better. Personally i'd rather respect than fear my father
 

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No it is one of the worst and most backwards ways of raising a child in the civilized world. I just came from the eugenics thread and if I had supported it, "would you hit your child as a way to raise them" would be the first question and if anyone answered yes, they would be out of the gene pool.

There are soooo many ways to discipline your children instead of hitting them, just look at us swedes, the majority of us don't use spanking as a disciplinary tool and we turn out fine. Most parents just don't "have the time" to help their children or spend time with them and do activities with them (both parents need to do this) and if you can't make time, THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING WITH A CHILD?

And lastly, to all of you who say "I was spanked and I came out just fine" you can think of it like this.
Everyone has to undergo a test in wich there are fifty pills on a table, one of them is a cyanide capsule, ten are vitamin pills and the rest are placebos. you took one and it turned out to be a good one and when someone thinks it's a good idea to check witch ones are the vitamin pills and just hand them out you say, "well I turned out fine".
 

dead.juice

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Xarran said:
dead.juice said:
Xarran said:
dead.juice said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
Uh, no.

You don't hit or smack a random person on the street who mis-behaves or plays up, so why do it to a small child just because they're yours?
I can't take away a random person's stuff on the street, tell them what they can eat for dinner, make them go to school, tell them what time to go to bed, ground them, tell them to go to the doctor...etc....

Children are not just small adults. They do not have the rights of adults, parents do have a certain amount of control and rights over thier kids that do not apply to strangers on the street.
I know, but spanking/smacking, basically physically (and emotionally) harming your child is not a right a parent has. It's abusing your position as primary carer, it's cruel.

Seriously, as a Mother, I've seen small children be punished and it's a horrific sight to see when you have your own.
That's an arbitray statement on your part.

I've seen kids in this very forum talk about how cruel it is for their parents to take away their PC/internet/xbox/etc for being bad.

If the level of violence is appropriate, I'm not convinced that a smack on the bum is any more harmful to a child than any other punishment (my daughter certainly cries a lot when I say no to her about anything, she'll live)
So, when/if your Daughter is in school and she just so happened to attack another child for being mean to her, how do you tell her it's wrong when you smack her yourself? (You didn't say you did smack her, just sayin')

Parents are suppose to lead examples to their children, show them how to be in the big, real world, not smack them that it becomes so normal they'll think it's OK to do it to others.

And what does telling your Daughter no have to do with it? I tell mine no, she fusses and sometimes kicks up a stink, but that's normal child behavior and testing boundaries. I wouldn't physically attack her over it, though.
Parents do lots of things kids can't do to each others. Kids learn that pretty quick. "Don't touch the stove, that's just for adults". I can take her toy away if she is misusing it, she can't take away another child's toy. etc
I have to say; I do find your example funny. Don't touch the stove because it's very hot and can cause you physical pain, yet, I can smack you and cause you physical pain which could potentially emotionally scar/stick in your head longer because my own Mummy/Daddy did it to me. You know those people that're meant to protect me from danger, not cause it?


I'm fully aware I'm one-sided about this, but nothing will convince me or make me think raising a hand to your own child is acceptable, ever.
There is a true story about a Canadian girl that had several children, including a baby. They had an open fireplace in their house, and the neighbors always told her to "Burn her baby", to teach it to stay away from the fire. She couldn't bring herself to do it though. One night, the baby crawled into the fire with his blankets, got horribly burned. He lived for two days.
I'm not trying to change your mind, it's just food for thought.
So to teach you that crossing a road can be dangerous ill run you over with my car. That will teach you a lesson!
Your not very good with metaphors, and you have no idea how learning works.
That makes sense, considering how stubborn you are.
I didn't say they told her to roll here kid into the fire, they recommended that she take his finger and touch the stove with it. It's a simple way to make him stay away from fire, at least until he can comprehend it.
I fully understood that was trying to make a joke:) But you must admit teaching the child to respect the fire is better than fear the fire. Fear is effective as is a smack in the bottom, but respecting when your father says stop is better. Personally i'd rather respect than fear my father
A baby can't learn respect, and proper discipline doesn't lead to fear. I agree it would be nice if we could just teach kids respect and love, and not have to teach them anything else.
But if you ever been around kids, or have a nephew, you'd understand it will never be as simple as that.
 

Xarran

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dead.juice said:
Xarran said:
dead.juice said:
Xarran said:
dead.juice said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
Uh, no.

You don't hit or smack a random person on the street who mis-behaves or plays up, so why do it to a small child just because they're yours?
I can't take away a random person's stuff on the street, tell them what they can eat for dinner, make them go to school, tell them what time to go to bed, ground them, tell them to go to the doctor...etc....

Children are not just small adults. They do not have the rights of adults, parents do have a certain amount of control and rights over thier kids that do not apply to strangers on the street.
I know, but spanking/smacking, basically physically (and emotionally) harming your child is not a right a parent has. It's abusing your position as primary carer, it's cruel.

Seriously, as a Mother, I've seen small children be punished and it's a horrific sight to see when you have your own.
That's an arbitray statement on your part.

I've seen kids in this very forum talk about how cruel it is for their parents to take away their PC/internet/xbox/etc for being bad.

If the level of violence is appropriate, I'm not convinced that a smack on the bum is any more harmful to a child than any other punishment (my daughter certainly cries a lot when I say no to her about anything, she'll live)
So, when/if your Daughter is in school and she just so happened to attack another child for being mean to her, how do you tell her it's wrong when you smack her yourself? (You didn't say you did smack her, just sayin')

Parents are suppose to lead examples to their children, show them how to be in the big, real world, not smack them that it becomes so normal they'll think it's OK to do it to others.

And what does telling your Daughter no have to do with it? I tell mine no, she fusses and sometimes kicks up a stink, but that's normal child behavior and testing boundaries. I wouldn't physically attack her over it, though.
Parents do lots of things kids can't do to each others. Kids learn that pretty quick. "Don't touch the stove, that's just for adults". I can take her toy away if she is misusing it, she can't take away another child's toy. etc
I have to say; I do find your example funny. Don't touch the stove because it's very hot and can cause you physical pain, yet, I can smack you and cause you physical pain which could potentially emotionally scar/stick in your head longer because my own Mummy/Daddy did it to me. You know those people that're meant to protect me from danger, not cause it?


I'm fully aware I'm one-sided about this, but nothing will convince me or make me think raising a hand to your own child is acceptable, ever.
There is a true story about a Canadian girl that had several children, including a baby. They had an open fireplace in their house, and the neighbors always told her to "Burn her baby", to teach it to stay away from the fire. She couldn't bring herself to do it though. One night, the baby crawled into the fire with his blankets, got horribly burned. He lived for two days.
I'm not trying to change your mind, it's just food for thought.
So to teach you that crossing a road can be dangerous ill run you over with my car. That will teach you a lesson!
Your not very good with metaphors, and you have no idea how learning works.
That makes sense, considering how stubborn you are.
I didn't say they told her to roll here kid into the fire, they recommended that she take his finger and touch the stove with it. It's a simple way to make him stay away from fire, at least until he can comprehend it.
I fully understood that was trying to make a joke:) But you must admit teaching the child to respect the fire is better than fear the fire. Fear is effective as is a smack in the bottom, but respecting when your father says stop is better. Personally i'd rather respect than fear my father
A baby can't learn respect, and proper discipline doesn't lead to fear. I agree it would be nice if we could just teach kids respect and love, and not have to teach them anything else.
But if you ever been around kids, or have a nephew, you'd understand it will never be as simple as that.
I'm 34 and my daughter is 10 so yeah I've been around children and I understand that it's not that simple. I'm not patient at all but I've learned to do it differently from my parents and my wife is amazing:) Prohibiting access can work well when they are young enough to not understand
 

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Zorg Machine said:
And lastly, to all of you who say "I was spanked and I came out just fine" you can think of it like this.
Everyone has to undergo a test in wich there are fifty pills on a table, one of them is a cyanide capsule, ten are vitamin pills and the rest are placebos. you took one and it turned out to be a good one and when someone thinks it's a good idea to check witch ones are the vitamin pills and just hand them out you say, "well I turned out fine".
So spanking is like a game of chance. What is the logic behind that?
Your test doesn't make a point, if I didn't get the wrong pill, then I did turn out fine. If I'm not aware that one of the pills is cyanide, then what fault is it of mine if someone else winds up getting the wrong one?
Don't blame me, blame the demented scientist who made the test.
I know the point your trying to make, but it doesn't work like that. It's like the placebos and vitamin pills represented discipline and spanking, and the cyanide represented abuse.
 

fenrizz

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No.
Just no. It is never okay to physically discipline a child.

If you need to resort to physical punishment you have failed as a parent.

I am only 24 years old, but I have 2 very well mannered and disciplined children (age 5 and 3,5).
I take great pride in this fact, and I have invested many hours into getting them to behave well.

I have spent many hours consulting my local nurse, read books and articles online.

It's not that hard, it just takes time and effort.

Physical harm is cowardly and shows a lack of character in a parent.
It's the "easy" way out, so you don't have to use time and effort on your children.

I find the whole practice disgusting and I will speak up for the children if I see such a thing happen.
If that does not work I will (depending on the severity) alert the authorities of this practice.
 

FamoFunk

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dead.juice said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
ravensheart18 said:
FamoFunk said:
Uh, no.

You don't hit or smack a random person on the street who mis-behaves or plays up, so why do it to a small child just because they're yours?
I can't take away a random person's stuff on the street, tell them what they can eat for dinner, make them go to school, tell them what time to go to bed, ground them, tell them to go to the doctor...etc....

Children are not just small adults. They do not have the rights of adults, parents do have a certain amount of control and rights over thier kids that do not apply to strangers on the street.
I know, but spanking/smacking, basically physically (and emotionally) harming your child is not a right a parent has. It's abusing your position as primary carer, it's cruel.

Seriously, as a Mother, I've seen small children be punished and it's a horrific sight to see when you have your own.
That's an arbitray statement on your part.

I've seen kids in this very forum talk about how cruel it is for their parents to take away their PC/internet/xbox/etc for being bad.

If the level of violence is appropriate, I'm not convinced that a smack on the bum is any more harmful to a child than any other punishment (my daughter certainly cries a lot when I say no to her about anything, she'll live)
So, when/if your Daughter is in school and she just so happened to attack another child for being mean to her, how do you tell her it's wrong when you smack her yourself? (You didn't say you did smack her, just sayin')

Parents are suppose to lead examples to their children, show them how to be in the big, real world, not smack them that it becomes so normal they'll think it's OK to do it to others.

And what does telling your Daughter no have to do with it? I tell mine no, she fusses and sometimes kicks up a stink, but that's normal child behavior and testing boundaries. I wouldn't physically attack her over it, though.
Parents do lots of things kids can't do to each others. Kids learn that pretty quick. "Don't touch the stove, that's just for adults". I can take her toy away if she is misusing it, she can't take away another child's toy. etc
I have to say; I do find your example funny. Don't touch the stove because it's very hot and can cause you physical pain, yet, I can smack you and cause you physical pain which could potentially emotionally scar/stick in your head longer because my own Mummy/Daddy did it to me. You know those people that're meant to protect me from danger, not cause it?


I'm fully aware I'm one-sided about this, but nothing will convince me or make me think raising a hand to your own child is acceptable, ever.
There is a true story about a Canadian girl that had several children, including a baby. They had an open fireplace in their house, and the neighbors always told her to "Burn her baby", to teach it to stay away from the fire. She couldn't bring herself to do it though. One night, the baby crawled into the fire with his blankets, got horribly burned. He lived for two days.
I'm not trying to change your mind, it's just food for thought.
Why was there no guard on the fire? And why was the baby not being watched for it to just crawl in to it in the first place? Why was it on if no guardian was around, so it seems.
(I know you probably cannot answer these, but before we say hurting a child to teach it a lesson is good, why were these things not done to prevent it in the first place is all I'm saying).

Tragic story, tough, how sad :(
 

FamoFunk

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fenrizz said:
No.
Just no. It is never okay to physically discipline a child.

If you need to resort to physical punishment you have failed as a parent.

I am only 24 years old, but I have 2 very well mannered and disciplined children (age 5 and 3,5).
I take great pride in this fact, and I have invested many hours into getting them to behave well.

I have spent many hours consulting my local nurse, read books and articles online.

It's not that hard, it just takes time and effort.

Physical harm is cowardly and shows a lack of character in a parent.
It's the "easy" way out, so you don't have to use time and effort on your children.
I cannot agree with you more. I think you are spot on.
 

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I think yes, depending of the situation, but JUST with the flat of the hand, and no lasting damage. A red hand-print on the but is expected though, but any lasting damage that proceed over a day WILL BE IN MY BRAIN considered child abuse. So beware spankers, I will be watching you O_O *Epic glare of doom*
 

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Pain is the ultimate attention getter. I don't believe in attention deficit disorder. I'm willing to accept the possibility of a chemical imbalance which would impede concentration in some people. I'm even more willing to accept the possibility that 90%+ of the people who claim to have ADD have just never been smacked in the head.

It's also a good way to teach kids about ascending levels of consequence. There are two lines. Beyond the first line lies minor inconvenience, like being grounded. Beyond the second line lies a little dose of pain. No kid should be whipped bloody (although, thinking back to my school days, there might be a few), but a little pain is good for you.

The "don't make Daddy get out of his chair" method worked for my father. It's how I'd raise my own kids if I were ever going to have any.
 

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dead.juice said:
CRRPGMykael said:
No,it's not OK to do that.A lot of kids grow up hating their parents because they beat them sometimes.Oh,and by the way,it's actually illegal in some countries.
That sounds more like abuse.
I'm sayin' that even a little spanking for something insignificant is illegal,not goin' all RAGE MODE on your kids D:
But yeah,I still stand for the fact that if you think beatin' your kids for something bad they did is gonna educate them,you're absolutely wrong.I think that's why Yahtzee is so bitter about his dad,too.
 

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I wish you had a third option. That's not an easy question to answer. I believe children need discipline. I've seen plenty of them turn into terrible unhappy people because they weren't given proper ground rules.

That being said, you have to be careful whenever you're considering what style you're going to discipline your child in.
Spanking them for example, must not be done often, because then the punishment loses it's potency. Neither should you spank in anger, because that lends the wrong message to the child. The amount of force used is also an important thing to consider, enough so that it's an unpleasant experience, not so much that you are either abusing or harming the child in question.

My parents have never hit me. Instead, they have used Jedi mind tricks: emotional manipulation. This is another method which can be used on children, but you have to be JUST (if not more) careful. Too much and your child will grow up insecure, or with a host of other psychological issues. Correctly, and they can be driven and considerate of others. Personally, I think this one may be one of the harder methods, because it's so very easy to destroy your child's way of thinking about themselves. Most psychologists can tell you how ridiculously easy it is to mess someone up this way.

There is also the style of reinforcement for good behavior through rewards.

Sorry, I stopped there... I just realized I was posting waaaay too much.
xD.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that it's not a yes or no answer. You've just got to think about what you want to do and your parenting style very carefully, because each thing has its downside.
 

FuzzyRaccoon

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CRRPGMykael said:
dead.juice said:
CRRPGMykael said:
No,it's not OK to do that.A lot of kids grow up hating their parents because they beat them sometimes.Oh,and by the way,it's actually illegal in some countries.
That sounds more like abuse.
I'm sayin' that even a little spanking for something insignificant is illegal,not goin' all RAGE MODE on your kids D:
But yeah,I still stand for the fact that if you think beatin' your kids for something bad they did is gonna educate them,you're absolutely wrong.I think that's why Yahtzee is so bitter about his dad,too.
Uh, no it's not. He said spanking, spanking isn't illegal. It IS illegal to use objects instead of your hand, like say a belt. It is also illegal to use the back of your hand. It is not illegal to use your open palm. However, the amount of force used can qualify this too as being abusive. If you hit a child on their ass, when you are NOT angry, with the intention to mollify them, without excessive force, and if you have a justifiable reason for such punishment, then it is perfectly legal.

Unless in the last three years some new crazy legislation has come about, banning this. If so, please link me.
 

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As a child, I hated a family member that used threat/violence to teach me lessons, I still hate him and I'll be happy when he dies.

That's why you shouldn't beat your kids.
 

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Corporal punishment is banned here, so...
No, I don't think it's okay. Causing some very moderate physical pain in serious situations might be acceptable, but in most situations, there are many other methods for disciplining your children that don't encourage violence.