Poll: Is it wrong to Fight?

[Danny Ocean]

Arys Tyr! Get down here!

Isn't he in some sort of military training facility?

Yeah, he's in boot camp methinks. Just dropping a line to see if anyone knows about the shirtless wonder.

 

[Easykill]

Arys Tyr! Get down here!

Isn't he in some sort of military training facility?

... Who are you? Taxi driver?

Anyway, I'll just say I like fighting again. It's nice. Shame there aren't any good martial arts places nearby.

 

[PureChaos]

you did the right thing. fighting shouldn't be a first resort and, as you tried to walk away, it seems u feel that way too. people like that who go around looking for fights need to be brought down a peg and good on you for being someone to do it. i bet the next time you bump into them they wont be so quick to mouth off.

 

[AlphaLion]

I think i am more worried that when and if I run into them again they will have weapons and try to kill me. In which case I will either, die, disarm, or kill them.

 

[Danny Ocean]

Arys Tyr! Get down here!

Isn't he in some sort of military training facility?

... Who are you?

[h4][color=Most certainly not Taxi Driver]GOD[/color][/h4]​

Damn, man, you need to sort this shit out.

 

[PureChaos]

I think i am more worried that when and if I run into them again they will have weapons and try to kill me. In which case I will either, die, disarm, or kill them.

if they do come after you then you should be able to do whatever you can to protect yourself. if they have weapons then thats all the more reason to make them go down before they make you go down permanently.

 

[Beowulf DW]

The problem is you beat up one of them, they get brought back down a peg or two and then pick on someone else instead, someone who doesn't have the ability to fight back. It doesn't stop them, just means they don't harm you.

You might be right, but you've ignored something.

The ass thought that AlphaLion would be an easy mark. He was proven very, VERY wrong. If he has a single brain cell in his body, he'll be considering this the next time he tries to bully some one he thinks is weak.

 

[Angron]

i say good job, i find its perfectly ok to fight, if someone else satrts it, u should never go out looking of roune, but i didnt so that fine.

its hard for me to have a reasonable opinion seeing as ive never been in a fight...

but there are alot of people who i no who need abit of sense knocked into them...i mean when i was in the final your of school the years 7s took us on daily...if any one of me or my friends were to attack one of them the wouldnt stand a chance, and ganging up doesnt work...
thank you for this post, reminds me of how glad i am to be rid of school

 

[PureChaos]

Also it did sound as though he could have run away, he didn't need to cause them any damage.

if he ran away they most likely would have chased after him and carried on anyway

 

[Hunde Des Krieg]

It is not wrong to fight. Unless you are an instigator, then you can go to hell and i hope you get your ass kicked. Fighting isn't wrong it is natural, male humans fight for dominance and superiority just like other apes(so do female humans), I do not believe, however, that one should go looking for a fight, this is foolhardy and illogical, but people should defend themselves if they are brought into a fight, simply because the instigator should be cast down and put in their place.

 

[Beowulf DW]

Or alternatively he'll just bring on the fight with several buds. One person from my old school had seven people attack him at once in case he did turn out to be strong. Pack mentality is just as bad, no?

Also it did sound as though he could have run away, he didn't need to cause them any damage.

His buddies got their asses handed to them as well. They won't be that eager to step in next time.

The pack mentality also leads to one key weakness: as soon as the leader goes down, the pack loses it's confidence. AlphaLion said that only a few of that guy's buddies tried to help. That's because most lose the will to fight when the leader is taken down.

 

[Beowulf DW]

That doesn't mean it is okay to though. I have been involved in enough fights (though never actually doing any fighting) to know that violence only leads to more violence. The more you fight back, the more they feel justified in attacking people in the first place.

I agree totally, but sometimes violence is required (i.e. self-defence or the defence of another). It's not right ir wrong in these cases, it's just necessary.

Do you honestly think that allowing a bully to kick your ass is going to stop his violence any more than kicking his ass to defend yourself?

A rapier wit can't stop a hard right to your nose, although that would be kind of cool...

There's an old story about Ben Franklin that I think is quite relevant to this conversation, although I'm not sure if it's true or not.

At one time, a group of over-zealous patriots were chasing down Native Americans and killing them in the frontierlands of Pennsylvania. The Native Americans fled to the Quakers in Philadelphia for protection. The over-zealous patriots came to Philadelphia and resumed their slaughter. Because of their beliefs in non-violence, the Quakers didn't do anything to stop the massacre. Ben Franklin gathered the Pennsylvania militia, marched into Philadelphia, and killed or arrested everyone who was taking part in the massacre.

The violence was met with violence, and it stopped. It would have ceased on its own, but every Native American still in Pennsylvania would have been lynched.

To defend oneself or another, it is perfectly acceptable to do whatever is necessary to ensure that an attacker can no longer cause harm.

 

[darrinwright]

Defending yourself = cool. Sounds like you did the right thing.

Killing, on the other hand, is not cool, for the most part. Yeah, in war, you do what you gotta do, but if it's like one-on-one (or two, or ten), then killing should be a last resort.

 

[BigBadNDN]

It depends on the situation. If you fight for what your heart tells you is right, then its a good reason. If you do it just to hurt someone, i hope you get yours. I do not condone the actions of bullies. Them pussies shaped me into who I would become in high school. I was a very small kid up until 7th grade, It didn't help that I skipped 1st grade either. I got picked on a lot, but it made me learn how to take a punch and deal with pain. I learned how to stay calm in a fight and observe people to find their weaknesses. So after 7th grade I hit a growth spurt and became a bully bully. Whenever someone was getting picked on, I stood up for them no matter the consequences to myself. It made me feel alive. In the couple seconds it takes to win or lose a fight, i was in a weird state of bliss, time slows down and speeds up at the same time. I wish I could bottle that feeling. Even as a grown-man I find that i still like to be there to help someone out of a jam. Where I'm from there are a few hate groups that like to target minorities, like myself, in the areas. Whats cool is, if you beat them guys up you don't get in trouble with the police, good times.

 

[TheDean]

fighting in general is wrong, but sometimes kickin someonein the face can be fun--

 

[Jursa]

Well I think banging someone's head against a wall and kicking in the between is perfectly reasonable if used in self-defense. However the definition of the person you described is a total retard. The thing about people is that they're predictable, people like that eventually either become rejects or go to prison. In short... I hope you knocked a few teeth out.

 

[bad rider]

I decided to put never as even though i see fighting it's usually because someone else fights either in the way they behave and talk or because they are attacked so it's wrong to fight as it creates fights.

Oh yeah i don't mean to down play you but don't try justifying yourself on this forum you either did the right thing or didn't no-one knows what happend except you.(Unless someone here knows you). You would have been better off walking away, you rose to his expectations and surpassed them, congratulations.

 

[AuntyEthel]

I don't support the troops, the war, or any American ideals.

I?m interested, why?

Well, being born and raised in a 3rd world country gives me a different opinion and outlook on the world and life in general. To outsiders, the "American Dream" is just kinda arrogant, and imposing it on other countries is kinda like fascism. Iraq never posed a threat to America like the Nazis did to Europe, so I think the whole war is bullshit. This is waaay off topic for this thread, but hey, you asked.

 

[PopeRocket]

I can appreciate the sentiment of the OP and will say that fighting can be necessary when you're standing up for what you believe is right.

But I also look at the post and the profile thinking:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images//9/9f/GTA_IV_Brucie_Kibbutz.jpg

BE GENETICALLY SUPERIOR, BRO!

 

[LewsTherin]

LewsTherin's Code of Conduct:

1. Never start it
2. Make well known you plan on defending yourself
3. Try not to cause any serious injury.