Poll: Is The "PC Elitist" As Common As The Escapist Would Like To Think?

[TehCookie]

I can't really say if it's common since it tends to stand out compared to just standard discussion. Yeah there's plenty of normal posts but when you see the person who stands on his desk and yells "PC MASTER RACE." You remember him more often than everyone else. Still in the past few days in just a few of the threads I've seen plenty of comments likes these:

Spoiler: This is just from the threads are still in to top 5 pages, and there are probably more in older ones and ones I didn't read.

In before people saying it's too soon.

It's not, if anything it's overdue.

The PC platform is suffering because of it (having to lower graphics in games in order to make it cross platform), and Console gaming is suffering from having to make graphical sacrifices in order to push dated hardware to keep a consistent graphical push, such as 720p only support, lack of anti aliasing, lower res shadows, and the game playing in thirty frames, rather than sixty.

Not wanting a new systems because of financial reasons is irrelevant, you can't stop progress at the end of the day.

Actually on a monitor 30FPS is a VERY noticeable stutter to most PC gamers including myself. When you are on a couch with a big TV you are not putting the game under as much scrutiny as you are sat 2ft away from a high refresh-rate monitor.

This is not a movie, games don't have prefect motion blur and other assets movies have to be able to run at 24FPS. Consequently you are going to see the stuttering. Its not really a matter of opinion, on a decent monitor 30FPS is going to look like a low framerate or at LEAST be visible.

Or entire threads saying PC is better. [link]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.333801-So-Batman-Arkham-City-looks-kind-of-bad-on-consoles[/link]

 

[GoGrapefruit]

I'd say gaming on PCs is better (maby with the exception of driving games) but hardly makes somone a better person for doing it.

 

[Rylingo]

I want new consoles.
'cos even USB 2.0 is obsolete and should go the way of the dodo.

But most importantly, the only reason DVDs are still all over the place in stores, is 'cos people cling to their obsolete crap and by doing so are holding back the industry.
Blu-rays would be dirt cheap if everyone who uses DVDs switched.

If getting upset at people who hold back the march of technological progress makes me elitist, so be it.

And I get pissed at people who expect me to shell out on a new Blu-Ray drive when my bank account has £9 and I have £200 rent to pay in a weeks time.

USB 2.0 does me fine. DVDs do me fine. I don't need better quality. And the fact that I am holding you back pleases me immediately.

 

[Mr. Omega]

A lot of claims made towards PC Gaming is greatly exagerated, especially nowadays. The costs have gone down and with the recent graphics plateau, the need for upgrades isn't as frequent as it used to be (As much as PC Gamers want it to be).

As one who priomarily games on a Nintendo system, I know how annoying it is for absolute BULLSHIT to be the accepted "truth". PC Gaming is very good.

However, I have no sympathy for PC Gamers. Whiny, entitled, knee-jerking, dick-waving, overcompensating, arrogant, snarky, eiltist pricks who can't get over the fact that upgrading a graphics card isn't going to lead to better games. I have yet to ever run into a PC Gamer who doesn't ever make any response that can be summed as at least one of these:

A: A 10-paragraph essay as a response to a single sentence
B: At least 1 mention of 2 of the following: Dumbed-Down, Lowest Common Denominator, Sheep, Mainstreamed, Sheeple, Frat Boys, Casual
C: At least 1 mention on "Your opinion is wrong"
D: ANYONE CAN MAKE A GAMING PC! YOU USE PCs FOR WORK!(yeah, well I need a fucking laptop for work, so shut up)
E: Stupid snarkyness and sarcasm. Usually there is no irony, they genuinely think they're being witty. (This one is almost ALWAYS there)
F: "I'm not biased! I owned an SNES 10 years ago!"

It's never "Huh, you like a console, and I like a PC. That's cool." It's one of those above. ALWAYS.

 

[TrevHead]

@ Mr Omega: It takes two to tango

Gamers moaned like hell over the Wii and its waggle control games / mainstream casual games. How is that any different from a PC FPS gamer who is pissed at games been designed for the console?

 

[Rylingo]

It's literally like Lego, you can't go wrong with it.

Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
You can with the simplest of mistakes wreck brand new equipment.

Honestly I feel those who build their own computers fail to understand that there are people who don't even understand the difference between AV and SCART. You've completely lost perspective.

 

[2fish]

Yes there is elitism here just as anywhere else. I however am annoyed by all members both pro and anti pc as well as internal console fights ps3 vs wii vs 360.

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A: A 10-paragraph essay as a response to a single sentence
B: At least 1 mention of 2 of the following: Dumbed-Down, Lowest Common Denominator, Sheep, Mainstreamed, Sheeple, Frat Boys, Casual
C: At least 1 mention on "Your opinion is wrong"
D: ANYONE CAN MAKE A GAMING PC! YOU USE PCs FOR WORK!(yeah, well I need a fucking laptop for work, so shut up)
E: Stupid snarkyness and sarcasm. Usually there is no irony, they genuinely think they're being witty. (This one is almost ALWAYS there)
F: "I'm not biased! I owned an SNES 10 years ago!"

It's never "Huh, you like a console, and I like a PC. That's cool." It's one of those above. ALWAYS.

A,C,E, and F can usually be found in any fanboy argument.
Parts of B can come up based on the fanboy fight

Of course D is limited to this argument.


Overall can't we just all agree to ignore the fanboys of all things? I mean we will all be better for it.

 

[Zantos]

Is PC elitism common? No. Is PC elitism fucking annoying when it does occur? Yes, as with any form of elitism.

The whole notion of superior platform is flawed anyway. People treat superior hardware as a blanket measure of quality. If you want something easy to transport, console is superior. If you want to play multiplayer with your friends who own consoles, then the PC is clearly not going to be better for you. Plus, I've tried gaming on a PC costing the same amount as my entire console set-up, I don't believe for a second that you can get a PC that will play games to any reasonable standard for the same price as a console.

 

[tthor]

The way I see it, one of the biggest differences between console gaming and PC gaming is this: on console gaming, all you do (and generally can do) is buy the latest console, buy the game, and play. PC gaming on the other hand tends to draw a lot more player involvement; PC players will mod their games, adjust computer settings, get nice mice/keyboards/gamepads/joysticks for gaming, upgrade their computer components, make sure their computer is powerful enough to run a game, and deal with computer related problems such as graphics card issues etc. PC gamers then tend to be much more involved in their gaming than console gamers, which is what I think breeds the perceived elitest mindset some PC gamers tend to have. Console gaming is for people who just want to play without hassel; PC gaming is for people who want to do much more.

I'm a PC gamer, and long live PC gaming

EDIT: Just wanted to make clear before someone misunderstands me, I don't think console gaming is inferior to PC gaming, i just think that console gaming and pc gaming are better fitting for different types of gamers, some people don't want to deal with a bunch of extra hassle in gaming, where as some people enjoying taking extra hassle to improve and change the game how they like;

 

[tthor]

It's literally like Lego, you can't go wrong with it.

Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
Yes you can.
You can with the simplest of mistakes wreck brand new equipment.

Honestly I feel those who build their own computers fail to understand that there are people who don't even understand the difference between AV and SCART. You've completely lost perspective.

If you can't put a PC together I would be pretty shocked.

The manual with the motherboard tells you how to put everything together and the risk of static is minimal. Just ground yourself before assembly or buy a static band.

Just because people don't want to learn doesn't make something hard.

However, building a new PC can be a pretty scary and confusing task for someone who has never done it before; I had wanted to build a new PC for years, but I kept putting it off because of just how overwhelming the task seemed, (even with my basic experience in building/understanding/troubleshooting computers from an IT Essentials class)

but now that I got over my fear of it (and discovered the beauty of Newegg reviews) i've finally got my list of computer parts I want and am in the process of gathering them so I can build my first PC

 

[Mr. Omega]

@ Mr Omega: It takes two to tango

Gamers moaned like hell over the Wii and its waggle control games / mainstream casual games. How is that any different from a PC FPS gamer who is pissed at games been designed for the console?

Simple. It isn't different. It was bullshit there and it's bullshit here. It's just that this brand of bullshit is a lot more annoying because there are actually decent points to be had, but are grossly exaggerated, and as I said, PC Gamers aren't exactly pleasant people to discuss with.

E: Stupid snarkyness and sarcasm. Usually there is no irony, they genuinely think they're being witty. (This one is almost ALWAYS there)

How's this for a 10-paragraph essay: You are a massive **** and I feel sorry for anyone who has the misfortune of interacting with you.

Also, you like a console? That's cool.

1: Not really going out of your way to prove it wrong, are you?
2: Should have added G: Personal attacks and/or Ad Hominems. Thanks for reminding me.

More on topic:
One thing people always fail to account for, personal circumstances: I got a Wii because it was cheap and shortly after Christmas. I got a PS3 because my brother got it and he lends it to me every now and then. I moved to a dorm. For classes, I got a laptop, because that was far more suited for my needs than a desktop. And said laptop isn't able to run high-end games.

Point I'm making: The whole "you use a PC for work, so there's no excuse" claim isn't as airtight as PC Gamers think it is.

 

[Zantos]

If you want something easy to transport, console is superior.

That's not always true. I've had 2 lan matches recently. My PC is about the same volume as a console (about 2/3 height and 2x wider than a 360). All I did was put it and peripherals in a box, carry it over and plug it into their spare monitor. Easy peasy.

The second time I had to bring a monitor but it's easier to bring a 19" monitor than a 40" TV that's for sure.

Seriously? You must need to cool that like a *****. My 'spare' PC is only a shade bigger than that and I'm pretty sure a few hours gaming would melt it's insides. What are you using to keep it under control?

Plus it depends on who you know really. The people I game with are far more likely to have spare TVs than monitors. Even then though, if the TV is smaller than a monitor, or you play consoles through a monitor, then it's just as easy to carry.