Poll: Kid Banned From Scoring For Being Too Awsome

Chase Yojimbo

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Flare Phoenix said:
Chase Yojimbo said:
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Chase Yojimbo said:
My question is, how did the other children feel about his participation? Was it the teachers who thought it was unfair of him to do touchdowns, or the students?

EDIT: Both cases it is stupidity, but needless to say it still seems unfair to ban him from something that he is good at. Maybe that is why the Teachers are teachers, they weren't good at anything at all (That is really what I have been getting from the Education System lately). I know their are good teachers out there, but acting like a pansy about everything treating everything as unfair instead of natural is downright stupid.
Read the article, he is not banned from playing.
I was referring for this year. I know he can go back Grd. 7. Still a dumb move though, and I support my cases still.
He's not banned at all. He simply cannot score a touchdown if he has already scored three times and his team is fourteen points ahead. I'm assuming when the other team catches up, he can go back to scoring as normal.
Funny, I must of read differently, and I apologize for my bluntness (still support what I said). Thank you for shedding light on that.
 

Joby Baumann

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you can tell who didn't read the article, since the rule applies to anyone, it is technically fair, plus, if someone scored 3 touchdowns AND the team is up by at least 14 points feels like high requirements for blocking a player. Also the coach will just switch the players around so the kid will be better rounded.
No harm no foul.
 

Krantos

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For kids this age, I don't see a problem. The real lessons they should be learning at that point are teamwork and good sportsmanship, so, yeah, I approve this.
 

Flare Phoenix

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Joby Baumann said:
you can tell who didn't read the article, since the rule applies to anyone, it is technically fair, plus, if someone scored 3 touchdowns AND the team is up by at least 14 points feels like high requirements for blocking a player. Also the coach will just switch the players around so the kid will be better rounded.
No harm no foul.
"According to Arkansas Fox affiliate Fox 16, 11-year-old Demias Jimerson has emerged as such a dominant running back that the Wilson Intermediate Football League he plays in has reinstated a bylaw called the "Madre Hill rule," which bars him from scoring a touchdown if he has already scored three times and his team has a lead of 14 points or more."

The article seems to say the rule only applies to him. Where does it say this rule applies to everyone?
 

CptCamoPants

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That is the single most idiotic thing i've ever heard it's like saying to a kid getting good grades "your doing just a tad to well we'll just change some A's to D's to even out".
That's a terrible analogy.
It'd be like if the teacher graded on a curve making it so that only half the class could pass and the only A went to the number 1 student. The ruling just makes it so the kid isn't the only one playing.
 

Joby Baumann

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Flare Phoenix said:
Joby Baumann said:
you can tell who didn't read the article, since the rule applies to anyone, it is technically fair, plus, if someone scored 3 touchdowns AND the team is up by at least 14 points feels like high requirements for blocking a player. Also the coach will just switch the players around so the kid will be better rounded.
No harm no foul.
"According to Arkansas Fox affiliate Fox 16, 11-year-old Demias Jimerson has emerged as such a dominant running back that the Wilson Intermediate Football League he plays in has reinstated a bylaw called the "Madre Hill rule," which bars him from scoring a touchdown if he has already scored three times and his team has a lead of 14 points or more."

The article seems to say the rule only applies to him. Where does it say this rule applies to everyone?
I figured that when they said "he" they were explaining how the rule worked using the kid as an example, further reasearch may be required
 

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I think its an idiotic thing to put in place. Now fair enough it may be ruining the experience for others, but instead of limiting the kid how about they try and find something else, another group/team/whatever sitting at the same elevated position. I mean that's how it was for me in school. Athletes doing way better then there current bracket? you'd bump them up, hell even I got into an advanced class. Talent needs room to grow or else we'll see an average team one day handicapped to oblivion because the other team just aint as good and a whitewash "wont be fair"
He's in the 6th grade. And it seems like there is no match for him. So that kinda rules out the "bump him up" idea.
 

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We have to remember that this is basically a youth league, and just like every youth league (including Little League Baseball) there are rules that help the game be fun for everyone who plays. Scoring caps for innings/quarters/periods/halves (depending on the sport), inclusion rules where every kid on the team has to play for a minimum amount of time (or innings, in baseball), and yes, even these less-used rules limiting certain players. It's all in the spirit of sportsmanship, because a kid whose team loses all their games and gets blown out consistently, or who doesn't get to play because they're the worst on the team, will just want to quit.

There are more competitive leagues and tournament leagues that focus more on winning than on sportsmanship and a fun environment - those can have whatever rules they choose - that this sixth grader could play on if he chose, where he wouldn't be held back and by all accounts would be subjected to a higher level of competition. But in this youth football league the focus is on playing the sport in a way that makes the game fun, but aims not to give one team too much of an advantage or disadvantage, and that's perfectly fine.
 

Marsell

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this isn't fairness, its just punishing success.
Just when you thought you couldn't hate the public school system anymore.
 

SilentCom

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I think it's fine because the rule only applies if he has scored 3 touch downs and his team is far in the lead. Also, everyone seems fine with it and the rule is there not to hold down the player but to allow all the players a chance to learn and hone their skills in the game. Keep in mind this is 5th and 6th grade football (american football) and the purpose is more or less to introduce the game to young children as opposed to strict competition.

As long as pretty much everyone is fine with it, I would have to say its fine.
 

SilentCom

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I bet half the people here haven't even clicked on the link or watched the video before voting.
 

triggrhappy94

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It elementry school football not the NCAA. You have to let the other kids have fun too.
It's not like it effects the game at all. The rule is only in effect if the team is up 15 and the kid's already scored 3 times.

OT: "Banned" has a very negative connotation, so the OP along with the video is kind of bias.
 

DAAANtheMAAAN

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I don't see the point in limiting his touchdowns. If the kid is good, let him rack up the points. I know they're middle school kids at the most, but if any opposing coach was worth even a slight damn, they'd be able to make a play to work around it.

Don't hate someone for being good. They're there to give people something to aim for.
 

StBishop

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It's a mercy rule. It's not stopping him from winning, playing, or scoring.

It's stopping the other team being dominated.

Anyone who enjoys match making that doesn't pit n00bs against pros needs to see the parallel and stop complaining.

As a coach and Student Teacher (I'm at uni studying education) this is seen all the time in schools. It's not a new thing and I remember it happening in primary school in the 90s when I was a kid.
 

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SilentCom said:
I bet half the people here haven't even clicked on the link or watched the video before voting.
I truly hate these threads for this reason, yet I can never avoid reading them in horrific fascination to see all the people posting without reading the article. (I'm fine with those who have read the article and disagree with it, it's the crazy crusaders that clearly haven't a clue whats happening yet respond with righteous fury regardless)

My favourite posts on this thread are the people who use this as an example to rant about "Political Correctness gone mad" and as evidence for our generations degrading values in education, despite the clear mention in the article that the rule was an old one that was reinstated, originating back in the 1980's.

Some day when a really misleading, completely false thread pops up I'm going to snap, and wait till it reaches about 10 pages, and then quote every single person who clearly hasn't read the article and takes a provably wrong stance, before correcting them all in one mammoth post. It'll have to be an exceptionally misleading or biased article though... that one about the boy dying of masturbating 42 times would have been perfect, but it's old news now.
 

Evil Alpaca

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This strikes me as a failing on the coaches part. If you have one player who is consistently dominating every team he plays against, then sub the kid out. You don't need to give a handicap that says he can only play the game a certain way. As a coach for little league soccer (6 & 7 year olds), we have similar things happen, where one kid performs consistently better than his peers through natural talent or by more focused training. If you create a ruling that limits the kid, then not only is the boy held back, but the other team feels patronized and the game becomes meaningless for them. If another team wins because a star player scored the limit to allowable goals, then the winning team is going to feel cheated. They didn't win, they were given the victory because they couldn't beat the other team is a fair competition.



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Supertegwyn

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It seems fair enough. It only applies for the rest of this year, then he can go back to smashing the other team.