So, I've played through Killzone 2's single player campaign and I absolutely love the cover system, but I wanted to know what everyone at the escapist thinks of it.
Poll: Killzone 2's cover system
- Thread starter Eipok Kruden
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Clunky and inconvenient. It's the only way to quickly move in and out from cover, but unfortunately, you have to hold the L2 button in, and the PS3's 'triggers' suck and are not good for holding onto. Next, if you can see out, you can be shot, but moving away from the edge fixes this. Unfortunately, you can't duck down when hiding under the 'crouch' cover. Also unfortunate, you can't crouch when you're behind 'full height' cover. Next comes the fact pressing the reload button forces you to stand and reload when in cover, but when out of cover you're free to run around like crazy.
Also, when you pop up from a crouching-cover, your accuracy is that as if you're crouching, even though your character is standing to shoot over the cover.
Oh, and I can't blind fire. Even though everyone else can. Why not?
Also, when you pop up from a crouching-cover, your accuracy is that as if you're crouching, even though your character is standing to shoot over the cover.
Oh, and I can't blind fire. Even though everyone else can. Why not?
The only gripe I have with it is that you can't blindfire. The controls worked fine for me and while reloading while in cover is tricky at first, it became second nature after a while. You just have to let go of L1 and stop aiming, then reload.DirkGently said:
I find it works. It hasn't failed me yet in a situation where it shouldn't have.
This is news to me, I've never had my character stand when reloading while in cover.DirkGently said:
Not while popped out. Go back into, cover, press box, push stick deeper into cover. Nothing happens.Eipok Kruden said:
I did hate that you don't automatically start to reload if you're zoomed in an out of bullets. Found it sorta odd, seeing as how reloading is automatic in every other shooter there is.
Also, trophy for 'manual reloads'? Why? I just, ugh.
Happens to me, all the time. Really frustrating. Maybe it's some kind of difficulty addon? I was playing on veteran.theSovietConnection said:
well in Gears of War if your in cover your safeEipok Kruden said:
but in Killzone 2 if your in cover it means that the chance of you dying has decreased by
70 %
so in Killzone 2 it's more intense and frantic and realsitic and fun
so I Like it
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thats my Opinion
and thats what count most since there is no fact that can say something about a game is good or bad
it's simply Opinion (I thought i might put this down to prevent some Arguments)
Yea, Killzone 2's cover system is more realistic and it makes the action more frantic and intense. With third person cover systems, the character can somehow magically see over and around cover without actually using his eyes, it's weird. Killzone 2 forces you to actually peak around and over cover to see what's going on. I prefer it to third person cover systems tooUNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
And yea, like it or don't like it, it's just an opinion.
YAY for Agreement !!Eipok Kruden said:Yea, Killzone 2's cover system is more realistic and it makes the action more frantic and intense. With third person cover systems, the character can somehow magically see over and around cover without actually using his eyes, it's weird. Killzone 2 forces you to actually peak around and over cover to see what's going on. I prefer it to third person cover systems tooUNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
I like the cover system in KZ2UNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:YAY for Agreement !!Eipok Kruden said:Yea, Killzone 2's cover system is more realistic and it makes the action more frantic and intense. With third person cover systems, the character can somehow magically see over and around cover without actually using his eyes, it's weird. Killzone 2 forces you to actually peak around and over cover to see what's going on. I prefer it to third person cover systems tooUNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
If you can see you can be shot is spot on for me, I didnt like the system of switching to 3rd person in Rainbow 6. If people can see round corners without risk they can line up their shot without risk and that spoils it for me.
I do wish you could go prone though. Seems unfair as the enemy can.
Hows it horrible? I am on my second play through and not had a problem with it.delta4062 said:
And useless? You move to cover to avoid being hit so much. Works for me.
I found it both useful and completely irrelevant, depending on the situation.
It was intuiative and worked really well, I quite liked the fact it was there, the problem is I was so used to other FPS games where you run around and take cover yourself that I found myself for the majority of the time playing in that style of game because I was so used to it and not utilising the cover system.
Other times though, it was dead useful. When you're shot to pieces it's great to be able to duck behind something and still see what's going on. I also quite liked the idea of lining an enemy up behind cover then pressing R1 to let him have it, that worked well. I just found that progressing the whole way using cover slowed the pace of the game down too much, and there were many situations where the Helghast came from all sides which negated the cover system completely and forced you to rely on the skills from other FPS's.
In short I liked having it there, it was useful sometimes and a good addition, and I would like to see more FPS's utilise it. But it wasn't gameplay changing, it was just useful.
It was intuiative and worked really well, I quite liked the fact it was there, the problem is I was so used to other FPS games where you run around and take cover yourself that I found myself for the majority of the time playing in that style of game because I was so used to it and not utilising the cover system.
Other times though, it was dead useful. When you're shot to pieces it's great to be able to duck behind something and still see what's going on. I also quite liked the idea of lining an enemy up behind cover then pressing R1 to let him have it, that worked well. I just found that progressing the whole way using cover slowed the pace of the game down too much, and there were many situations where the Helghast came from all sides which negated the cover system completely and forced you to rely on the skills from other FPS's.
In short I liked having it there, it was useful sometimes and a good addition, and I would like to see more FPS's utilise it. But it wasn't gameplay changing, it was just useful.
The longer you fire the wider the area shots can land. The cross hairs get wider over time to indicate this.delta4062 said:
It's a pretty standard gaming mechanic for simulating recoil....
You seem not to like this game because you cannot just point / click / kill like other FPS like counter strike.
They've just tried to get some realism into the game, if this is not for you then thats your taste.
If you can finish this game on the harder settings without using cover then you are either ducking around corners constantly or the aiming system is nowhere near as bad as you claim.
i don't like it. Sevchenko always sticks to the wrong surface if there is more than one viable piece of cover. my only problem was that the AI could blindfire. i don't want to do it, and i don't think they should be able to.
Really? I just turned off my PS3 about 30 minutes ago after playing through nearly half the campaign on veteran and I've never once accidentally attached myself to the wrong piece of cover. The cover system always works and it is absolutely essential on Veteran. I don't get what people are having issues with, it works fine for me every time.SteinFaust said:
EDIT: I should mention that I've already beaten the campaign on normal, I was just playing Veteran to see what changes from Trooper to Veteran.