Poll: Kratos VS Bayonetta

Arnoxthe1

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I think I'm gonna be that asshole and say Ryu Hayabusa. Ryu Hayabusa would win.
 

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My money is on Dante.

Because he's better then both of them. After that, Bayonetta. Because Kratos is a chump and one application of witch time will end him. I also don't think Kratos can deal with bullets.
 

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They would fuck... but, not the stereotypical/sexy kind of fucking, you know...

Other than that, all but them are fucked either way... so they would fuck to prevent more shit from getting fucked that shouldn't be fucked indirectly by their actions... because words won't mean as much shit as the grunting and groaning that shall follow regardless...
 

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Bayonetta easily.

Kratos has a bag of only punches, and angrier punches, and even angrier punches.

Bayonetta has a bag of dodges, punches, bullet time, guns, more guns, is a class-A troll, oh and more guns.

You're comparing a man whose strengths are anger and the ability to smash things really hard to someone whose favorite past time is trolling the shit out of angels/demons/people, then shooting the angels and demons in the fucking face.

All she would have to do is sit at range and shoot him in the face with weapons he can even begin to comprehend, and if he manages to close the gap all he is going to do is whiff air and then catch a boot + bullets to face while he tries to figure why everything is so sloooow.
 

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Arnoxthe1 said:
Ryu Hayabusa would win.
Chaos Isaac said:
My money is on Dante.
Since we all know that better and classier people would win, I propose we change the venue of this thread in favor of cooler characters, both of whom have even been in a Death Battle. So, on that note...

YOU TWO!! MAKE RYU AND DANTE FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!
 

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Dongiga from Spectrobes: Origins for the Nintendo Wii. Why? Because his passive means he can't be stunned during his attacks, and since both Kratos and Bayonetta rely on stunning their opponents to deliver a finishing blow, they can't defeat the rocky bastard.

[sub]also because these death battle things never really feel balanced and are just a show of 'who is more biased about which character' and I'm currently playing Spectrobes, so, you know, that.[/sub]
 

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FalloutJack said:
Since we all know that better and classier people would win, I propose we change the venue of this thread in favor of cooler characters, both of whom have even been in a Death Battle. So, on that note...

YOU TWO!! MAKE RYU AND DANTE FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!
Does Dante have any i-frame moves? I can't remember...
 

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Arnoxthe1 said:
FalloutJack said:
Since we all know that better and classier people would win, I propose we change the venue of this thread in favor of cooler characters, both of whom have even been in a Death Battle. So, on that note...

YOU TWO!! MAKE RYU AND DANTE FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!
Does Dante have any i-frame moves? I can't remember...
First, you have to tell me what that means, because I'm sure I just don't know the technical term, and then hopefully I can give you an answer.
 

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Arnoxthe1 said:
Does Dante have any i-frame moves? I can't remember...
He doesn't need I-frames, he can just get back up. But at any rate, yes he does. He has his normal Dodge Rolls, then his Trickster Style dash gives him i-frames. Some of his attacks have I-frames too, but I couldn't tell you which ones. Then he has his other various styles that gives him a doppleganger, slows time, invincible guards (if done right), crazy sword abilities and crazy gun abilities.

FalloutJack said:
First, you have to tell me what that means, because I'm sure I just don't know the technical term, and then hopefully I can give you an answer.
Invincibility Frames. Basically dodge moves that can go through attacks and come out unharmed. (Or at times attacks, depending on the series.)
 

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FPLOON said:
They would fuck... but, not the stereotypical/sexy kind of fucking, you know...

Other than that, all but them are fucked either way... so they would fuck to prevent more shit from getting fucked that shouldn't be fucked indirectly by their actions... because words won't mean as much shit as the grunting and groaning that shall follow regardless...
Blasphemy! You diseased maniac; everyone knows that DanteXBayonetta is the one true pairing!

<spoiler= #Team Dantetta> http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_laydbsZhWk1qaf8azo1_500.png

All joking aside, Bayonetta obviously. If we're talking against the likes of Ryu Hyabusa, that depends. Ryu vs. Kratos; Ryu wins because of calmness, speed, agility, and perfect planning. Though if Kratos ever grabbed him, there would be trouble.

Bayonetta vs. Ryu? Bayonetta most likely

Bayonetta vs. Dante? Stalemate.

Ryu vs. Dante? Stalemate. Though I read a fan fic (DMC crossed with Dead or Alive as well) where they fought, and Dante was playing with him, even though Ryu got in a few good hits. The battle doesn't last too long, because they have other matter to deal with.
 

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Chaos Isaac said:
He doesn't need I-frames, he can just get back up. But at any rate, yes he does. He has his normal Dodge Rolls, then his Trickster Style dash gives him i-frames. Some of his attacks have I-frames too, but I couldn't tell you which ones. Then he has his other various styles that gives him a doppleganger, slows time, invincible guards (if done right), crazy sword abilities and crazy gun abilities.
Well, as Ryu once said, "My strength comes through training. Not from some curse in my blood." Which is actually a little funny because he IS part of the dragon lineage, but all the same, what I mean is, he's not only naturally powerful, he's disciplined as FUCK. And holy shit, is he fast. And have you SEEN the enemies he has destroyed in NGB/II, both cutscene and actual gameplay wise? And the legendary weapons he's able to wield on top of that? Oh, and he can block bullets with his sword. Not to mention his Guillotine Throw which he can do almost immediately and it's unblockable and he can spam it if he really wants to be a cheap ass. XD

And BTW, I hope Dante's backup doesn't drop essence whatsoever (very unlikely that they don't, I think) because if they do, Dante's gonna get a literally unstoppable Ultimate Technique to the face that will come out pretty much instantly since Ryu can do OLUTs (On-Landing Ultimate Technique) that will do INSANE damage. IF it doesn't kill Dante outright. And we're not even getting into Ninpo, which is also unstoppable, undodgeable, and he can initiate any old time he wants to. Multiple times.
 

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People keep saying "Oh Kratos would just come back from Hades", welp nope, that wouldn't help in this particular case. Bayonetta can destroy spirits, which isn't something Kratos has ever really had to face, the worst any of his enemies could ever do is send him to Hades. Bayonetta would just destroy his spirit/soul when she killed him, meaning there'd be no coming back from Hades this time for Kratos. So Kratos would have to beat Bayonetta really quickly, which is just something he doesn't have the speed for.

Remember Bayonetta goes and destroys angels and demons that are based in Christian lore, who are supposed to have been so powerful that they wiped out all the false Pagan and Heathen Gods. So even those are more powerful than anything Kratos would have ever had to face.
 

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Arnoxthe1 said:
Well, as Ryu once said, "My strength comes through training. Not from some curse in my blood." Which is actually a little funny because he IS part of the dragon lineage, but all the same, what I mean is, he's not only naturally powerful, he's disciplined as FUCK. And holy shit, is he fast. And have you SEEN the enemies he has destroyed in NGB/II, both cutscene and actual gameplay wise? And the legendary weapons he's able to wield on top of that? Oh, and he can block bullets with his sword. Not to mention his Guillotine Throw which he can do almost immediately and it's unblockable and he can spam it if he really wants to be a cheap ass. XD

And BTW, I hope Dante's backup doesn't drop essence whatsoever (very unlikely that they don't, I think) because if they do, Dante's gonna get a literally unstoppable Ultimate Technique to the face that will come out pretty much instantly since Ryu can do OLUTs (On-Landing Ultimate Technique) that will do INSANE damage. IF it doesn't kill Dante outright. And we're not even getting into Ninpo, which is also unstoppable, undodgeable, and he can initiate any old time he wants to. Multiple times.
I have to a point, I stopped paying attention around halfway of Ninja Gaiden Two, and it is fair. Ryu would be a fair opponent, but Dante can basically match anything Ryu's arsenal have or flat out tank it. Dante is already used to fighting a swordsman who can not only deflect bullets with his sword, but catch them and throw them back with the flat of his blade. It's nothing particularly new for him to face.

Dante can match Ryu on the level with speed, swordplay and arsenal fairly easily, and probably can best his swordplay if he really wanted to, or even his speed if he bothered to use certain styles. And that's not the extra abilities he knows and can use with his various weapons he obtains from the souls of demons.

Dante's back up doesn't exist, because Dante rolls solo and anyone else who shows up is just kinda going after their own thing. But even with that insane damage... it won't really keep up to Dante's regeneration, and the absurd amount of punishment he can take. The thing here is that Ryu is still basically easily killable despite his supernatural form he gained.

Even Ryu's OLUTs and Ninpo couldn't really down Dante, who could either nullify them outright, or stop time and just stab Ryu as he is casting. Or, in case he cannot stop it, for whatever reason, he probably could have easily fully charged his Royal Guard in the fight, and go into Dreadnaught, where he is invincible.

Ryu poses a serious danger, but, Dante has all of the answers, as well as a wink and a smile.
 

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Chaos Isaac said:
I have to a point, I stopped paying attention around halfway of Ninja Gaiden Two, and it is fair. Ryu would be a fair opponent, but Dante can basically match anything Ryu's arsenal have or flat out tank it. Dante is already used to fighting a swordsman who can not only deflect bullets with his sword, but catch them and throw them back with the flat of his blade. It's nothing particularly new for him to face.

Dante can match Ryu on the level with speed, swordplay and arsenal fairly easily, and probably can best his swordplay if he really wanted to, or even his speed if he bothered to use certain styles. And that's not the extra abilities he knows and can use with his various weapons he obtains from the souls of demons.

Dante's back up doesn't exist, because Dante rolls solo and anyone else who shows up is just kinda going after their own thing. But even with that insane damage... it won't really keep up to Dante's regeneration, and the absurd amount of punishment he can take. The thing here is that Ryu is still basically easily killable despite his supernatural form he gained.

Even Ryu's OLUTs and Ninpo couldn't really down Dante, who could either nullify them outright, or stop time and just stab Ryu as he is casting. Or, in case he cannot stop it, for whatever reason, he probably could have easily fully charged his Royal Guard in the fight, and go into Dreadnaught, where he is invincible.

Ryu poses a serious danger, but, Dante has all of the answers, as well as a wink and a smile.
I will at least say this. If anyone's gonna pose any sort of threat to Ryu, it may be Dante. Well, him and the Chief but only because the Master Chief has that damnable luck which seems to get him out of pretty much every situation he's landed himself into.

There is one thing we're not accounting for though, and that's how much Ryu can counter Dante's abilities. Assuming they actually have any effect on him at all. Considering how nastily powerful the True Dragon Sword is, (without even discussing the Dark Dragon Blade or even the Blade of the Archfiend) it's... Doubtful. It may nullify Dante's abilities completely and cut right through his buffs. I don't know. Also keep in mind, Ryu slays demons for a living (or at least his universe equivalent of them) and I'm pretty sure Dante isn't gonna be an exception here.
 

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I see Dante and Ryu as the Superman and Batman respectively of hack and slash video games. One is all about flashy powers and doesn't have much skill, while the other focuses on skill and pragmatism but isn't as strong.

As for the OP, I pick Bayonetta. I don't think Kratos has anything to counter Witch Time.
 
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I'd have to give this one to Bayonetta for a couple of reasons.

First, her arsenal of weapons and powers give her more flexibility and speed when dealing with opponents. Most of Kratos's weapons are melee based with some range while Bayonetta uses guns, bows, swords, hammers, and scythes with different magical powers to them. His Golden Fleece might allow him to reflect some of her projectiles back, but he has nothing to counter Witch Time.

The second reason comes from a character and personality standpoint. While Bayonetta may not be as durable of Kratos, she is a lot smarter and calmer in combat. Kratos has been used, manipulated, and treated as a mere pawn by various gods and Titans throughout all of the GOW games. In addition, it doesn't take much for him to go into a berserker rage (usually anything that involves bad mouthing his dead family). Bayonetta on the other had is a lot more cocky and in control of herself, even when facing down gods and pwerful demons. All it would take is for Bayonetta to get Kratos to throw a hissy fit, wait for him to slip up in his blind rage, and send his ass right to Inferno.
 

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For that reason I also consider Kratos more powerful than Alex Mercer. Mercer was shown at the end of [PROTOTYPE] to be able to regenerate from a single lump of flesh. Kratos can still do one better.
Well to be honest how death happens has been rather hazy in God of War. In most of the games he actually physically goes to Hades. I can't remember if Ascension had it (because that game is crap by the series' standards), but only in God of War 1 does his spirit actually leave into Hades I think. Though we're not shown that either, so it could very well be that in the God of War-verse your physical being is actually transported into Hades upon death. In 2 it's the hands in Rhodes. In 3 he falls from Mount Olympus (which I'm not sure even counts as dying, since he deliberately does that multiple times over the course of the game without batting an eye), in Chains of Olympus he just straight up travels there.