Poll: Marijuanna
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No, as a user I can tell you marijuanna is not addictive. and to respond to sunami88
The high may feel really good but in my opinion, its the same addiction as being addicted to cake or pie or blowjobs.sunami88 said:
well i think marijuana is very bad, but i dont really consider it a legitimate drug.DethFan666 said:
its just plant that grows in the ground which if you happen to set on fire, produces a mental effect.
true drugs like coke and meth and shit you have to chemically alter by adding baking soda and water and mixing it up (i don't know the recipe, i'm just saying... lol)
so if i was forced to do a drug i'd choose weed just becuase it's probably the most mellow of all the drugs there are
"Oh yeah, im high, this is a good feeling" then next day "Man I felt good when I was high, Im going to smoke again. Ohh this isnt as good as the first time.. I'll try again tommorow this time i'll use more gear." Then the problem just gets worse. It might not be anything like this.. Thats just my theory."
Getting that 'good feeling' again is actually pretty easy. You have to keep track of your tolerance: the more you smoke, the less high you get every time. So you just take a break. It doesn't even have to be a long one, even one day produces a significant difference. I had a friend who quit for a year and he claims his first bowl after the break was as good as his first time.
In addition, there is nothing that is forcing you to smoke more and more each time like it is the case with heroin, meth, crack, and other highly addictive drugs. If you pace yourself, you can keep the experience at a consistent level every time.
Of course it will never really be as good as the first time, but that's because you've already experienced it, the sensation is no longer a mystery to you and that happens to pretty much every other experience that we have in our lives.
"Oh and for the record, i live in adelaide, australia and over here its only a civil offence like a parking ticket and doesn't go on your permanent record for possesion of up to and including an ounce. And you can propogate up to 3 plants without being more than a civil offence too. It becomes a criminal offence if you have too much or you get caught selling it."
I live in Canada. Although pot is technically illegal here, it's still pretty widespread and widely accepted. The cops usually don't care as long as they don't catch you, and even then they just take it away and let you go with a warning, no record or anything like that unless it's obvious you intended to sell it or just had an unusual amount on you.
Every year we also have an event called the "Marijuana March." It's a big event where all the smokers gather in downtown Toronto with the goal of convincing the government to legalize it, at least for medicinal purposes. There's food, live music, and a ton of other stuff. It's also a lot of fun to take bong hits in front of cops who can't do anything but stare.
Getting that 'good feeling' again is actually pretty easy. You have to keep track of your tolerance: the more you smoke, the less high you get every time. So you just take a break. It doesn't even have to be a long one, even one day produces a significant difference. I had a friend who quit for a year and he claims his first bowl after the break was as good as his first time.
In addition, there is nothing that is forcing you to smoke more and more each time like it is the case with heroin, meth, crack, and other highly addictive drugs. If you pace yourself, you can keep the experience at a consistent level every time.
Of course it will never really be as good as the first time, but that's because you've already experienced it, the sensation is no longer a mystery to you and that happens to pretty much every other experience that we have in our lives.
"Oh and for the record, i live in adelaide, australia and over here its only a civil offence like a parking ticket and doesn't go on your permanent record for possesion of up to and including an ounce. And you can propogate up to 3 plants without being more than a civil offence too. It becomes a criminal offence if you have too much or you get caught selling it."
I live in Canada. Although pot is technically illegal here, it's still pretty widespread and widely accepted. The cops usually don't care as long as they don't catch you, and even then they just take it away and let you go with a warning, no record or anything like that unless it's obvious you intended to sell it or just had an unusual amount on you.
Every year we also have an event called the "Marijuana March." It's a big event where all the smokers gather in downtown Toronto with the goal of convincing the government to legalize it, at least for medicinal purposes. There's food, live music, and a ton of other stuff. It's also a lot of fun to take bong hits in front of cops who can't do anything but stare.
I think those things can be addictive too, though. Overeating, sexual addiction, etc. I just find it silly to say that even if you can't get through the day without masterbating 27 times doesn't mean you're not a sex addict, because you're not having sex.MizPiz said:
Same (IMO) if you can't get through the day without smoking 27 joints.
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Well I used to smoke quite a few grammes a day, and experienced physical and mental withdrawal when I didn't have any, so in that sense I voted yes.
Anyone who votes no and cites doctors and scientists as a reason should experience it firsthand rather than relying on ill-attempted research and studies.
Anyone who votes no and cites doctors and scientists as a reason should experience it firsthand rather than relying on ill-attempted research and studies.
Until recently I smoked on almost a daily basis for about four years. I'm now in my 2nd month without it and I found myself with none of these 'physical and mental withdrawal' that you're talking about. I've also had countless friends and acquaintances, one in particular smoked an Oz a week, who quit or took breaks after long periods of use who also experienced no form of withdrawal. The closest thing to withdrawal I can think of is for about a week after quitting I missed having a bowl after work, and also the great sex, but that's about it. My moods didn't change and my body was not affected in the least.AuntyEthel said:
Your experience either shows you don't know what you're talking about, or that you had a difficult time letting go of the habit. In that case any physical withdrawal that you claimed to have experienced was only the result of your state of mind, not of the plant or any of its properties.
Or maybe there was more in your stash then just pot, although you can usually tell since the scent tends to be different.
I'm willing to bet that everyone who was apparently addicted to cannabis was actually addicted to the tobacco within the joint, including Auntie Ethel.
It is extremely rare to smoke a joint that has no tobacco at all - you'll find this is the case with every person quoted in this thread as being physically addicted - they were, but not to the cannabis part of the joint.
There is a graph produced by a study done by The Lancet (British Medical Journal, a copy is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)#Health_issues ) showing the harm and dependance of each substance or drug studied by researchers, showing that both alcohol and tobacco are far higher on each scale than cannabis.
It is extremely rare to smoke a joint that has no tobacco at all - you'll find this is the case with every person quoted in this thread as being physically addicted - they were, but not to the cannabis part of the joint.
There is a graph produced by a study done by The Lancet (British Medical Journal, a copy is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)#Health_issues ) showing the harm and dependance of each substance or drug studied by researchers, showing that both alcohol and tobacco are far higher on each scale than cannabis.
it isn't addictive. people just think it is because when they decide to ommitt weed from their life they are left sitting in a room realizing how boring their stupid life is. i like weed, but i don't have time to hunt down a seller and make a mini festival out of smoking it.
It was kinda addictive to me. I smoked all last year and when i gave up this year at times i felt a want/need to go smoke again. Not sure if anyone else has felt like this.
I do know what I'm talking about, and no, there wasn't anything else in the weed. I used to smoke that much in South Africa, where you can buy absolute gigantic amounts. Literally a bank bag full, completely stuffed. I basically smoked it like tobacco, giant pure-green joints with no mix, around 15 a day. There was a massive mental and physical difference when I cut down (through moving to England) that might not happen to some people, but definately happened to me. Also, the strain was different, Sativa as opposed to Indica (I think) which has slightly different properties.Akula said:
I used to smoke it quite a lot and i find that it actually gives a sense of calm and leaves you peaceful. As opposed to say.. alcohol which tends to make people more violent.
I think that it should be legal, because it's defiantly the least problematic of all substances and when compared to heroin, cocaine or even alcohol it's less damaging to the body. And you have a lot of 'alcohol induced violence' but when have you ever heard of 'marijuana attacks' or anything like that. In fact the danger comes because a lot of the people you buy it off tend not to be very savory characters.
I myself gave up because of a money problem and also because there are more things to life than living in a dream-world.
I think that it should be legal, because it's defiantly the least problematic of all substances and when compared to heroin, cocaine or even alcohol it's less damaging to the body. And you have a lot of 'alcohol induced violence' but when have you ever heard of 'marijuana attacks' or anything like that. In fact the danger comes because a lot of the people you buy it off tend not to be very savory characters.
I myself gave up because of a money problem and also because there are more things to life than living in a dream-world.
Exactly. Everything can be addictive, it's down to the personality of the person.Jamanticus said:
I think addiction is more about the drug itself, where-as habit forming is more about the person. That's how I see it by his use of the words anyway. But I see them as basically the same.Spacelord said:
And [/thread] is the most annoying thing ever, to give your opinion, and state the debate is over because you are right.
I agree with the above poster in the sense that it does depend largely on the person.
I have a friend, who has a Catholic mother who would die if she knew he smoked. That way, when he does get a hold of some pot, he goes nuts and can't wait to smoke it and then brags about it for weeks afterwards. When he moves out of home he will become addicted and wind up some brain-dead statistic.
I have another friend who's mother actually gives him pot which he rarely uses. It's so casual to him that he realises (as do I) that it's no big deal. When he moves out of home, I don't beleive he'll get addicted, because he isn't addicted now after nearly a year and a half of smoking it.
Fot clarification, I would call everyday use 'addiction' but not use every 3 or 4 weeks.
I have a friend, who has a Catholic mother who would die if she knew he smoked. That way, when he does get a hold of some pot, he goes nuts and can't wait to smoke it and then brags about it for weeks afterwards. When he moves out of home he will become addicted and wind up some brain-dead statistic.
I have another friend who's mother actually gives him pot which he rarely uses. It's so casual to him that he realises (as do I) that it's no big deal. When he moves out of home, I don't beleive he'll get addicted, because he isn't addicted now after nearly a year and a half of smoking it.
Fot clarification, I would call everyday use 'addiction' but not use every 3 or 4 weeks.