True, martial arts carry a risk of injury like any sport and a fist is no match for a bullet. But in my opinion it's better to know it than to need it and be helpless. Of course, carrying a gun works too.Eico said:I do not.
I saw a Penn and Teller: Bullshit! episode on martial arts a while back. Pretty much proved what a bad thing they are. Interesting stuff.
Really does depend as they showed with the break their goddam face option. In my class we learnt to go for the bollocks, eyes, neck anything you can hit that will hurt them. We learnt to run from multi assailant if their was a way out of it.Eico said:I saw a Penn and Teller: Bullshit! episode on martial arts a while back. Pretty much proved what a bad thing they are. Interesting stuff.
You can't generalise all karate just on Kata. It maybe a large part of traditionalist systems but not all systems are the same, Kata is more about the contribution of the whole in ones technique; the mind, body and spirit acting together as one in complete harmony as a form of meditation more than self defence. Many freestyle systems (such as mine) practice real life situations such as being punched, grabbed etc so the body becomes used to countering street fighting but the importance of Kata isn't forgotten.Okysho said:Karate is very systematic and relies heavily on forms. It's not very good for everyday fighting since once that form is disrupted, unless you know how to immediately adapt to that situation, you've screwed yourself over. Only masters are really effective in that style.dogstile said:Tried karate, didn't like it. I prefer fighting my own way anyway, so bleh
A good base for self defenses involves knowing how to quickly block a strike and knowing what your options are from that position. Martial arts relies heavily on body mechanics, no matter what style, and should be one of the first things taught, followed by showing how to effectively use them.
Well that's the kicker isn't it. Martial arts requires that you choose the right one for the situation and that you can adapt your own personal use of it, and many people can't do that. Anyone i've known who is good at fighting grew up getting the shit kicked out of them, and either learned through experience, or practiced so hard they became a master.Okysho said:Karate is very systematic and relies heavily on forms. It's not very good for everyday fighting since once that form is disrupted, unless you know how to immediately adapt to that situation, you've screwed yourself over. Only masters are really effective in that style.dogstile said:Tried karate, didn't like it. I prefer fighting my own way anyway, so bleh
A good base for self defenses involves knowing how to quickly block a strike and knowing what your options are from that position. Martial arts relies heavily on body mechanics, no matter what style, and should be one of the first things taught, followed by showing how to effectively use them.
Holy shit... I'm exactly the same! I'd love to take up Capoeira, but when it came down to me getting mugged I think Krav Maga would be more useful. But capoeira is just badassdarth.pixie said:I wanted to when I was a kid. Then mom told me I was violent enough already without actually learning how to punch someone. Sadly, I haven't learned anything since then.
I'd prefer more of Krav Maga than martial arts. I like the Capoeira movements though. I would probably break my neck trying them.
This was actually just in response to karate in particular. I spent time studying matrial arts (it was a mix, but pulled the better fundamentals and mashed them into one epic style) and I daresay it works well. I still remember quite a bit of it and I've even managed to get away from a couple rights without any real incident.dogstile said:Well that's the kicker isn't it. Martial arts requires that you choose the right one for the situation and that you can adapt your own personal use of it, and many people can't do that. Anyone i've known who is good at fighting grew up getting the shit kicked out of them, and either learned through experience, or practiced so hard they became a master.Okysho said:Karate is very systematic and relies heavily on forms. It's not very good for everyday fighting since once that form is disrupted, unless you know how to immediately adapt to that situation, you've screwed yourself over. Only masters are really effective in that style.dogstile said:Tried karate, didn't like it. I prefer fighting my own way anyway, so bleh
A good base for self defenses involves knowing how to quickly block a strike and knowing what your options are from that position. Martial arts relies heavily on body mechanics, no matter what style, and should be one of the first things taught, followed by showing how to effectively use them.
So for the average everyday person. Martial arts is a nay. For someone dedicated? Definite yay. I've only fought one good martial artist in my time, and even then I only beat him because I got damn lucky.
Slippy bastards...
but it's not as simple as that (sorry bruce lee!) because after leaving the style I learned (for many reasons) I tried Karate, and found it far too rigid, expecting situations to be very specific in order for self-defense techniques to work properly.Bruce_Lee said:"if it can help you when you're in a fight, use it"