Poll: Mass Effect 3 vs. Halo 3: Which had the better ending? [SPOILERS]

[NerfedFalcon]

Everyone who ever tried to play the 'artistic integrity' card to defend Mass Effect 3's ending would do well to look at this:

"Yep, game over. That's all you're getting. Buy our DLC!"

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So, uh, about that artistic integrity thing...At least Halo 3 didn't try to use its ending as a DLC pitch.

 

[tippy2k2]

A "conclusion" that is made very unclear even with EC.

The Earth-to-citadel and citadel-to-Starkid's lair scene makes no sense. Even with the IT at hand to save the day, what's with the man at the very end called the "stargazer"? Why is the story being told from a third-person narrative? Was it real or made-up? How are there more stories about Shepard?

Good or bad is irrelevant. The story is incomplete.

Well I disagree. Everything that I've heard from people when they complain about plot holes are either:

A. The fact that they don't tell you everything (what happened after the battle, who is the old guy at the end, etc)

B. Things that I have either pieced together myself or just made up a reason for (like Joker running away; based on my experience in the game I assume that he had a damn good reason to have taken off like that *even if the game didn't explain it to me)

C. I don't care enough about to have it bother me (Starkid looking like the kid who blew up in the beginning of the game)

I know a lot of people complained about plot holes and it might just be my own twisted mind that allows me to fill in the blanks that angered other people but I saw no problems with the holes that people complain about.

*Again, I haven't played the EC but I've heard that a reason for Joker bugging out is supplied in the EC

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

A "conclusion" that is made very unclear even with EC.

The Earth-to-citadel and citadel-to-Starkid's lair scene makes no sense. Even with the IT at hand to save the day, what's with the man at the very end called the "stargazer"? Why is the story being told from a third-person narrative? Was it real or made-up? How are there more stories about Shepard?

Good or bad is irrelevant. The story is incomplete.

Well I disagree. Everything that I've heard from people when they complain about plot holes are either:

A. The fact that they don't tell you everything (what happened after the battle, who is the old guy at the end, etc)

B. Things that I have either pieced together myself or just made up a reason for (like Joker running away; based on my experience in the game I assume that he had a damn good reason to have taken off like that *even if the game didn't explain it to me)

C. I don't care enough about to have it bother me (Starkid looking like the kid who blew up in the beginning of the game)

I know a lot of people complained about plot holes and it might just be my own twisted mind that allows me to fill in the blanks that angered other people but I saw no problems with the holes that people complain about.

*Again, I haven't played the EC but I've heard that a reason for Joker bugging out is supplied in the EC

Well okay, that's fair enough. But if you honestly have a solution to how the existence of the Catalyst makes the entire plot ME1 completely nonsensical, I'd really like to hear it. If the Catalyst controls the entire Citadel, why is the direct intervention of Sovereign necessary? What purpose do the keepers serve? How precisely do the Protheans prevent the Catalyst from opening the Citadel and letting the Reaper fleet through?

 

[tippy2k2]

Well okay, that's fair enough. But if you honestly have a solution to how the existence of the Catalyst makes the entire plot ME1 completely nonsensical, I'd really like to hear it. If the Catalyst controls the entire Citadel, why is the direct intervention of Sovereign necessary? What purpose do the keepers serve? How precisely do the Protheans prevent the Catalyst from opening the Citadel and letting the Reaper fleet through?

Sorry, I do not : (

I intend to play through the entire series once more once I run out of games to play (I got a PS3 for Christmas and so have been going all kinds of nutter butters!). There are a lot of things about ME1 and ME2 that I just plain don't recall and therefore I just take each games individually while keeping the core plot of each game in mind in relation to each other (Saren = bad, Illusive Man = Questionable character). There are bound to be issues that I just don't realize are issues because I don't remember specifics.

I'm sure that sounds a bit like a cop-out (probably because it is a bit of a cop-out) but I just plain don't remember the specifics of each game to answer your questions. I remember people having a ton of questions about The Matrix trilogy that I was finally able to answer once I sat down and just watched all three in one sitting. Hopefully that can happen with these games for myself as well...

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

Well okay, that's fair enough. But if you honestly have a solution to how the existence of the Catalyst makes the entire plot ME1 completely nonsensical, I'd really like to hear it. If the Catalyst controls the entire Citadel, why is the direct intervention of Sovereign necessary? What purpose do the keepers serve? How precisely do the Protheans prevent the Catalyst from opening the Citadel and letting the Reaper fleet through?

Sorry, I do not : (

I intend to play through the entire series once more once I run out of games to play (I got a PS3 for Christmas and so have been going all kinds of nutter butters!). There are a lot of things about ME1 and ME2 that I just plain don't recall and therefore I just take each games individually while keeping the core plot of each game in mind in relation to each other (Saren = bad, Illusive Man = Questionable character). There are bound to be issues that I just don't realize are issues because I don't remember specifics.

I'm sure that sounds a bit like a cop-out (probably because it is a bit of a cop-out) but I just plain don't remember the specifics of each game to answer your questions. I remember people having a ton of questions about The Matrix trilogy that I was finally able to answer once I sat down and just watched all three in one sitting. Hopefully that can happen with these games for myself as well...

Awwww...

Hey, if you can enjoy it then more power to you. It's just that the clash with Mass Effect 1 is the big problem for me, since from my point of view it's the biggest way that the ending directly and blatantly contravenes what happend in previous games. I've yet to see anyone answer it though.

 

[tippy2k2]

Awwww...

Hey, if you can enjoy it then more power to you. It's just that the clash with Mass Effect 1 is the big problem for me, since from my point of view it's the biggest way that the ending directly and blatantly contravenes what happend in previous games. I've yet to see anyone answer it though.

Well I promise that when I finally do go back to play Mass Effect 1-3 in a year or so, I will let you know what I think

For now, here is some info that might help you out from the Mass Effect wiki. Maybe it will help answer some of your questions (or maybe it'll just confuse you more like it did me):

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Sovereign
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Keeper

 

[Jynthor]

I don't remember what happened in Halo 3. But ME3 will haunt me forever. Halo wins.

 

[mad825]

Well I disagree. Everything that I've heard from people when they complain about plot holes are either:

A. The fact that they don't tell you everything (what happened after the battle, who is the old guy at the end, etc)

B. Things that I have either pieced together myself or just made up a reason for (like Joker running away; based on my experience in the game I assume that he had a damn good reason to have taken off like that *even if the game didn't explain it to me)

C. I don't care enough about to have it bother me (Starkid looking like the kid who blew up in the beginning of the game)

I know a lot of people complained about plot holes and it might just be my own twisted mind that allows me to fill in the blanks that angered other people but I saw no problems with the holes that people complain about.

*Again, I haven't played the EC but I've heard that a reason for Joker bugging out is supplied in the EC

This tells me that you don't really care or never even tried to understand the trilogy. You cannot even give your own critique to understand what might be wrong with the story so instead you're piling the excuses.

ME1 and ME2 is set in the real world while ME3 is in limbo. It cannot decide whether or not what we see and hear is real. That kid? He got blown-up twice while on earth and no other NPC (excluding Shepard) did not acknowledged the kid's existence.

Honestly, I don't understand why you said ME3 had a better story (and was fitting? Do you mean that ironically?) than Halo 3. You clearly don't understand and just don't care as you said so yourself.

 

[tippy2k2]

This tells me that you don't really care or never even tried to understand the trilogy. You cannot even give your own critique to understand what might be wrong with the story so instead you're piling the excuses.

ME1 and ME2 is set in the real world while ME3 is in limbo. It cannot decide whether or not what we see and hear is real. That kid? He got blown-up twice while on earth and no other NPC (excluding Shepard) did not acknowledged the kid's existence.

Honestly, I don't understand why you said ME3 had a better story (and was fitting? Do you mean that ironically?) than Halo 3. You clearly don't understand and just don't care as you said so yourself.

Yes, I meant it was fitting (no, I did not mean it "ironically"). But no, the only reason I could enjoy the trilogy ending was because I didn't understand it, right?

I can give you an analysis of why I thought it was a good and fitting ending but instead of asking me about it (like Geo did), you decided that I just didn't "get it". This thread wasn't asking for people's analysis on the ending, just which they thought was better, so I did not include my analysis (that does not mean that I do not have one).

I'm currently playing some CoD with my buddies but if you are interested in hearing me out, I will gladly type out my analysis of the ending and why I like it eventually here. Can I answer every plot hole and question that you will have? God no, I'm a fan not an encyclopedia but maybe it'll help people understand that the people who liked it do indeed think about it (and we do indeed have souls). Nope, not anymore. I'm not going to talk to someone who just insults users

Lastly, I stated that there are plot holes that I don't care about (like why the Starchild looked like the kid. I don't think it matters why he looks that way). I was not saying that I don't care about the series.

 

[Zeckt]

I barely remember the ending to halo 3 so it could not of been that bad and I recall being pretty satisfied with the gameplay. However I can easily remember being revoltingly disgusted to the point of losing complete interest in anything mass effect with ME3. It was THAT bad for me. I've never been so turned off by a game in my life, even DA2. I would give DA3 a chance if I hear good things but ME? Ruined for me. They wanted to end it that way originally, so that's the way I will leave it.

 

[mad825]

I can give you an analysis of why I thought it was a good and fitting ending but instead of asking me about it (like Geo did), you decided that I just didn't "get it". This thread wasn't asking for people's analysis on the ending, just which they thought was better, so I did not include my analysis (that does not mean that I do not have one).

You can if you want.

I didn't decide anything. What you said sounded like apathy, denial and maybe symptoms of ADHD.

 

[Joon Young Kim]

People who voted for Mass Effect 3 have no soul.

People who make an account here specifically to say crap like that on their first post have no soul.

OT: I say ME3, for two reasons. First, I'm not into Halo. I can't get into it for the life of me. Second, dependent on your ending, Shepard hits the I WIN button and becomes overmind to a legion of squid-vessels, the likes of which allow him to do whatever he wants with the entire universe at large.

That shows your ignorance, thus making your point invalid.

We have been fighting Cerberus for more than half of the game since we believed controlling Reaper is not a good thing to do. Suddenly at the end, all we believed was pointless.
And I didn't even get to mention Quarian+Geth resolve in EC.
I am in for "different opinion" but I believe there is limit to that.

 

[FalloutJack]

-Snip-

People who resort to that kind of shtick when I'm in the right have no soul. Welcome to your first reporting.

 

[Konatacalypse]

How is this even a question?

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

Halo 3 ended the series, and it ended it well enough for me. Yeah, it wasn't all happy and shit, but it ended.
ME3 just ruined everything. It was depressing, and worst of all it made you belive it was going to be a great ending, but it sucked. Dues Ex Machina, anyone? When Bioware said they were going to avoid it?