Poll: mass effect: The council

[Zack Alklazaris]

You have to understand that the human race is trying to prove themselves in the beginning. By saving the council and defeating Sovereign while sacrificing countless lives humans were able to secure themselves in eyes of the galactic community.

At least thats how I saw it when I saved them. Also while Anderson doesn't make the best politician. As Shepard you know of the impending Repear invasion. You need a friend in the council to help you since no one else believes you. Which is why I had Anderson as the political head for the human race.

 

[Kashrlyyk]

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But you only find this out by playing through. At the time Sov is about to hit the kill switch for every known life form and you are unsure if you have the resources to stop him. ...

Actually no. Even Sov needs a way to access the computer to hit the kill switch! That is what Saren was for, to get access to the computer Shepard was standing in front of. (BTW Is that last sentence anywhere close to correct English grammar??)

 

[Kashrlyyk]

On my own choice walkthrough I let them die to have the upper edge on sovereign.

And even with my knowledge that sovereign gets defeated either way I let them die soloely on the reason that it is not rational to sacrifice the lives of people trying to save the galaxy for the lives of the ones that delievered the galaxy to it's doom.

And then mankind gets wiped out by the three council races and their ridiculously powerful fleet. Remember: The Turians alone have 39(!!!) dreadnoughts, mankind have 8.

Letting the council die, means ignoring the reaction of the REST OF THE GALAXY to that!

 

[MortisLegio]

Council Dead, Anderson elected

I played through it as "what makes sense with what shepard knows" I took a small hit in the paragon department but I stand by my decision.

 

[Alade]

On my own choice walkthrough I let them die to have the upper edge on sovereign.

And even with my knowledge that sovereign gets defeated either way I let them die soloely on the reason that it is not rational to sacrifice the lives of people trying to save the galaxy for the lives of the ones that delievered the galaxy to it's doom.

And then mankind gets wiped out by the three council races and their ridiculously powerful fleet. Remember: The Turians alone have 39(!!!) dreadnoughts, mankind have 8.

Letting the council die, means ignoring the reaction of the REST OF THE GALAXY to that!

The galaxy will undersand if you say "We had to do it to stop sovereign", you obviously don't state publically that you let them die on purpose.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I saved the council.

If only so I could laugh in their faces and say "ha ha, I told you so" at the end of ME1. But then at the start of ME2 they go back to being pricks who deny everything, eventhough they wholeheartedly admitted the Reaper threat at the end of the first game. [sub]Fucking assholes![/sub]

Still, it's a good thing to have some goodwill with the other turians, salarians, and asari.

Maybe that's what we'll get in ME3 in place of ME2's loyalty missions; Proving your loyalty to entire species.

... Oh, and Anderson got the seat on the council. Sure it's nepotism, but fuck it, I saved the galaxy.

 

[Kashrlyyk]

...The galaxy will undersand if you say "We had to do it to stop sovereign", you obviously don't state publically that you let them die on purpose.

I doubt the galaxy even knows about Sovereign. They'll just see that somehow mankind's first spectre is connected to the death of the council. So I don't think they would believe it.

Remember Anderson's and Saren's history together, so this would have been the second time mankind's spectre is involved in a screwed up mission.

Even if they believe it. They would be even more wary towards humans and that would cause a lot of trouble for mankind.

Then there is always the chance they just look for an excuse to attack mankind, the death of the council would be a really good excuse. So no matter how you turn it: It is just much better to save them and not risk the consequence that would have come otherwise.

If you really think about the consequences, you actually have no choice. Obviously Bioware didn't do that.

 

[bjj hero]

(BTW Is that last sentence anywhere close to correct English grammar??)

English is my second language. Lets see how good your sentence structure is in Farsi...

 

[Kashrlyyk]

(BTW Is that last sentence anywhere close to correct English grammar??)

English is my second language. Lets see how good your sentence structure is in Farsi...

Funny thing. I was talking about my own "last sentence" in that post not yours. The "in front of" part at the end just doesn't sound right. And since English is my second language too, I asked.

As far as I can tell, your "last sentence" in that post is perfectly correct English grammar.

 

[Dr Jones]

Kept em alive with Anderson for 2 reasons:
1. Would be good PR to save their asses (though the bitches respond by not helping me in ME2, dissapointing )
2. Proving their asses wrong, when the reapers show up, i'll go renegade in that convo, just that convo..

 

[Grell Sutcliff]

I saved the council because it will be easier to get the help of their races later on (hopefully) and I choose Anderson because like everyone else says Udina is a douche and Anderson is awesome.

 

[TheCommanders]

I think this has been brought up, but personally, I thought a few replaceable ships to save the best ship in the entire fleet was worth it. Honestly, I didn't find the council that annoying in the first game, because to be fair... there was no evidence that this was anything more than a large geth uprising. It's only in the second game that they start being really stupid. Udina on the other hand, always an idiot, always annoying, Anderson punching him out made my day.

 

[Storm Dragon]

I picked Anderson for the council because Udina is an asshole. So by choosing Anderson for the council, I give the job to someone who actually understands the threat, and I get to piss off Udina. It's win-win!

I saved the council because if I can save someone, then dammit, I'm going to save them regardless of my personal feelings. But there's also another reason.

Lots of people say "I hate to say I told you so", but not me. I love saying "I told you so", and come ME3, I am going to be rubbing the council's faces in it.

 

[Burntpopcarn]

I killed the council and let Capt. Anderson in charge of the new one. Yes, yes, I know. "Hurp derp lol fag in mass effect 3 reapers will eat you because now everyone hates you trlolololololol hurp derp" I didn't care, okay? In mass effect 1 I didn't play a single side mission to gain paragon and so I had to kill wrex and i'm pretty sure I skipped right through the conversation where the council's fate is decided. I played mass effect 1 like a regular shooter like Gears of war, whereas I played mass effect 2 like I would fallout 3- I took my sweet time to complete the game, and it really paid off in the end when nobody died on the so-called (fingerquotes) "suicide mission". However, killing the council and wrex were my only ever bad decisions. The rachni are on my side (yay for giant bugs!), the quarians aren't going to war with the geth (a large majority of which are now good thanks to me and Legion), Doctor Solus has research data on a genophage cure (the krogans'll love that!), Anderson is the council leader, Samara and I killed the Ardat-Yakshi (the asari might like that), I discovered that wreav is actually HAPPY that wrex is dead (so the krogans and I are on good terms, I hope >:I) and I can't remember the rest of good decisions. I am not replaying mass effect 1 because then I'd have to replay mass effect 2 as well, and I worked my ass of to get full paragon, gain everyone's loyalty, etc. To reapers: COME AT ME BRO!

 

[fix-the-spade]

letting them die only proves to them that humanity isn't worth having a position in the galactic council.

I believe that it will be a huge boon to have them all alive during ME3, a united galaxy should not be lead by just humans.

Alternate interpretation!

I let the council die (in one iteration of Shepard), because they are killed by their own hubris. Over the course of the game they are told repeatedly that Saren is planning to attack the Citadel and that he has the equipment and numbers behind him to do it.

Their response is to ignore and later actively impede efforts to stop Saren, despite the rapidly mounting evidence against him. They do this primarily to preserve their political positions and because they believe their position to be invincible. When the attack comes they're totally unprepared and they die like the inept commanders they are. No need to sacrifice others to put them right back in charge.

Then a new Human led council is put in place, since not only did the humans predict the attack, they also defeated it where the combined Turian-Asari fleet failed. Lead by example and all that.