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I was thinking about a new way to win contest. Since water drinking fails badly. Lets pretend the prize is your life just to make it interesting.

In separate rooms 2 people have a button in their respective room. They cannot see each other. The couple is told that either the first person to push it wins or the last person to push it wins. It is already written down so its not random. It has an hour time limit and if the hour passes by and nobody presses it than nobody gets the prize(both die). You also have no clue whether the hour passed or not until you die.

Basically:
Paper says person who pushed first lives: The person who pressed the button first would live and the other would die

Paper says second person to push button lives: The person who pressed the button after the other person(If they even pressed it) would live.

Nobody presses: Death for all!
 

Dragon_of_red

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So, why wouldnt you press it fast? There seems to be no penalty or pressing it first or last, as long as its within an hour. I dont see any reason not to press it after a few minutes of waiting or as quickly as possible.
 

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This is just a version of Game Theory isn't it? Well, depends on who's the other person I suppose.
 
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dragon_of_red said:
So, why wouldnt you press it fast? There seems to be no penalty or pressing it first or last, as long as its within an hour. I dont see any reason not to press it after a few minutes of waiting or as quickly as possible.
The person who presses it right is the one who lives. If you press it first, then the person who pressed it second(if they did) lives if the paper said so. Or vice versa.

Pressing it first would only work if pressing it first was the way to win.
 

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Shurikens and Lightning said:
dragon_of_red said:
So, why wouldnt you press it fast? There seems to be no penalty or pressing it first or last, as long as its within an hour. I dont see any reason not to press it after a few minutes of waiting or as quickly as possible.
The person who presses it right is the one who lives. If you press it first, then the person who pressed it second(if they did) lives if the paper said so. Or vice versa.

Pressing it first would only work if pressing it first was the way to win.
Well... i read it before you edited it and made it make sense, i would still press the button after a few minutes though, let the other guy choose...

Also, what happens if they hit the button at the same time, who dies then?
 

TheNumber1Zero

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Sounds like a Saw Scenario

I guess I would press the button out of curiousity before even realizing there's a contest.
 

Good morning blues

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There is no incentive to do either, other than the fact that pressing it early will end the game quickly. I would therefore press it right away.

lostclause said:
This is just a version of Game Theory isn't it? Well, depends on who's the other person I suppose.
This is like game theory except there's no logic at all and we don't learn anything from it.
 

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This wouldn't be inspired in any way by The Dark Knight, would it?

Also, what if one person presses it but the other doesn't? That makes him both the first and last person to press the button.
 

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lostclause said:
This is just a version of Game Theory isn't it? Well, depends on who's the other person I suppose.
This isn't game theory because there's no equilibrium that will be reached. The chances for both are equally likely, so any bleedin' time is valid.
 

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Simple solution, push the button twice as fast as i can, then i pushed the button both first and second.

HOORAY FOR THE GORDIAN KNOT

Can we play the prisoner's dilema next?
 

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DuplicateValue said:
This wouldn't be inspired in any way by The Dark Knight, would it?

Also, what if one person presses it but the other doesn't? That makes him both the first and last person to press the button.
Damn I was gonna say that.
 

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Monkeyman8 said:
lostclause said:
This is just a version of Game Theory isn't it? Well, depends on who's the other person I suppose.
in game theory cooperation (ie not pressing the button) would be rewarded so it's not. Press it as fast as possible because that's the only sensible choice. sure you could try and wait out the other guy, but either choice is pretty much 50/50 for you and waiting risks death by timeout.
Yeah, when I wrote that the OP was a bit vague as to what actually can from pushing the button.
 
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Good morning blues said:
This is like game theory except there's no logic at all and we don't learn anything from it.
This wasnt inspired by game theory but purely out of which risk do you take. There is no optimal answer and no answer to give you, just a test to see what you would do.

DuplicateValue said:
This wouldn't be inspired in any way by The Dark Knight, would it?

Also, what if one person presses it but the other doesn't? That makes him both the first and last person to press the button.
Not neccesarily, If the way to win was to press it first than you killed the other person essentially. But if pressing it last was the way to win you both would die since neither met the requirement.


It was not inspired by the dark knight but kinda similar now that I think about it.
 

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pimppeter2 said:
I'd just walk out. You never said that I was trapped in the room

LOOPHOLES FTW!
he also never said that the method of death was confined to the room either. what if you had an explosive implant or something, and your prescence in the room wasnt neccesary?
 

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4fromK said:
pimppeter2 said:
I'd just walk out. You never said that I was trapped in the room

LOOPHOLES FTW!
he also never said that the method of death was confined to the room either. what if you had an explosive implant or something, and your prescence in the room wasnt neccesary?
Thats not the way loopholes work. Thats just an excuse
 

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4fromK said:
pimppeter2 said:
I'd just walk out. You never said that I was trapped in the room

LOOPHOLES FTW!
he also never said that the method of death was confined to the room either. what if you had an explosive implant or something, and your prescence in the room wasnt neccesary?
You can hug the gamemaster so that if you explode, he explodes, too.