Poll: Music that needs to Die
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The sampling that's done now is very different to what came before. With changes to copyright laws and a flood of lawsuits in the early 90s, the early "collage" style sampling works have fallen by the wayside. Sampling still exists but it's more subtle, a lot of the times the artists are sampling themselves playing instruments rather than someone else's recording (putting the hoary old "they're just thieves with no musical talent" complaint out to pasture), or very small unidentifiable snippets are used as triggers and being "played" via a MIDI keyboard or somesuch like a regular instrument. Or, they're getting permission - but that's rare because of what it does to royalties. The era of massive amounts of music sampling in rap music is over, and will probably never return, for legal and copyright reasons alone.Blood Countess said:
The exception is rap records sampling the vocals of other rap records for a chorus, that's still really common and most rappers have a kind of gentleman's agreement to turn a blind eye to this kind of thing seeing as how so many of them do it - it's almost considered a way of paying tribute. But that agreement strictly covers lyrical content only, not musical content. Rip off a line and they don't care but snatch a beat and their heads spin around like Linda Blair's.
Oh and on a not-related point, I love how Brokencyde gets in every thread like this. They should pay The Escapist advertising money given all the promotion you guys give them.
I guess none of the above because we need horrible music to make the good songs good, to drive artists to improve.
One other thing. You can tell what a good song is by it's riff or melody, not by it's lyrics. Of course it is a big contributing factor but not nearly as important as the riff and melody.
One other thing. You can tell what a good song is by it's riff or melody, not by it's lyrics. Of course it is a big contributing factor but not nearly as important as the riff and melody.
Can I use the double chainsaw oar?NameIsRobertPaulson said:
I figure since they look like bad zombie rip-offs and have the mental capacity of the recently deceased, I'd say anti-zombie weapons would work great on on them.
OT: While I will admit that I hate all of the above, I really don't think any particular group is dangerous enough to kill off. The only exception to this is gansta-rap that seems content to support racial stereotype and a parasitic life of mindless decadence. In all honesty, BET and the Rap industry are probably more dangerous to the credibility and image of the African American community than the few remaining racists.
Shrill, inappropriately sexual bubblegum tween pop
Not because I don't like it (that's just coincidental). It's just weird having my 12 year old sister singing stuff like;
"Call me Mr Flintstone
I can make you bed rock"
when she has no idea what it means.
Not because I don't like it (that's just coincidental). It's just weird having my 12 year old sister singing stuff like;
"Call me Mr Flintstone
I can make you bed rock"
when she has no idea what it means.
Tween pop and rap......and country nowadays, I liked country when it was ugly, not these cowboy wannabe pretty-boys
I say the first option, but not necessarily because the music is bad (I mean, as described here, ALL the music is bad in some way). No music should be eliminated simply because some people don't like it. No, that stuff has to go because it's used to manipulate children into making their parents buy this stuff. As the Arrogant Worms say in their song "Boy Band," "We're a product of market research." It's all rampant consumerism with no concern for music or integrity.
At least the achingly insincere frat boy songs are only being used to manipulate adults who can make their own decisions. And usually the music is better, even if the words are stupid.
Oh, additionally:
At least the achingly insincere frat boy songs are only being used to manipulate adults who can make their own decisions. And usually the music is better, even if the words are stupid.
Oh, additionally:
Yeah - where's the option for "Four chord samey bland rock"? I can think of a dozen bands that fit that category (and sadly they're all on my girlfriends iPod).C95J said:
Iron Maiden/Black Sabbath/Judas Priest/Led Zeppelin.YouBecame said:
Most metal isn't screaming. Well actually I have no idea, I don't listen to screamo music.
"Overproduced boring-ass "dance" music consisting of three notes played over and over."
And if that doesn't work, just kill Pop altogether. Everything else is fine.
And if that doesn't work, just kill Pop altogether. Everything else is fine.
Probably rap because I hate the bass that comes through the car windows of SOME PEOPLE.
It sounds like someone's epic farting
It sounds like someone's epic farting
Wistfane said:
Yes, because you need a formal education to have an opinion. Seriously, that was just stupid. by your logic, you'd need a degree in Philosophy to discuss a matter of right and wrong, a degree in Epidemiology to discuss the possibility of a zombie outbreak, and degrees in both Theology and[&i] Evolutionary Developmental Biology to discuss the theory of evolution. I'm not trying to protect unfounded or baseless arguments, but come on. Can't people have a personal opinion? And just for the record, I do have a formal musical education (no instruments, but rather editing and mixing music, sound studio stuff) and I still think that music would do just fine, or even better, without certain artists. An education does not automatically entitle you to belittle the opinions of people who don't necessarily know as much about the subject as you do.
OT: I voted for "Shrill, inappropriately sexual bubblegum tween pop". By that, I assume you mean Ke$ha, Justin Bieber (even though his music isn't exactly "inappropriately sexual"), and so on. It makes me weep for humanity when this is what kids today grow up listening to. But of course, they're too damn stupid to realise it's bad (mostly because they're barely exposed to 'real' music), and the big music corporations are all too eager to back the tasteless, untalented artists that said kids listen to, thus making even more money. This money is used to advertise the artists and their music, therefore more kids are lured into it, thus the companies make more money, etc etc. It's an evil circle.
Footnote: I'm not an anti-establishment "STICK IT TO THE MAN" jackass. I'm well aware that the overwhelming majority of 'good' artists through the years have been backed by the same (or similar) big corporations that now back the bottom scrape of the musical barrel. It just saddens me that they've abandoned quality for easy money.
EDIT: I'll be politically correct and agree with the whole "It's wrong to eliminate any genre of music" sentiment. It's true that we need shit to appreciate the good stuff. However, I still think that Ke$ha and brokeNCYDE (HOLY SHIT WHAT WAS THAT I AM NOT EVEN SURE THAT IS MUSIC) contribute nothing to the creative process.
3Oh3 needs to die. It objectifys women, has a terrible repetative tune, and the singer just talks the song.
As long as someone appreciates it, I'm content with ignoring music I find awful. The minute it stops being liked though, get rid of the cheesy country!
I'd just like to say that I probably have more formal musical education than everyone here (plus a fair bit of "informal" education, ahem) and I think Brokencyde are great. I don't think anyone else's opinion on music is "invalid" though. I might disagree with many people's music taste, but what you're saying is on another level - you're effectively stating that a person needs a degree in food manufacturing and chemical engineering to appreciate strawberry icecream.Wistfane said:
Just posting the YouTube again because it seems to be the thing to do around here. Damn that song is so catchy. Go on, just try to resist clicking on it. Admit it, you tapped your foot when no-one was looking...