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I'm British and yes. Especially with all the rising BNP support.
Exactly the same.

I can't believe the amount of racist and/or ignorant c*nts that are cropping up everywhere - quite a few things are starting to mirror how the Nazis got into power, which is only slightly worrying.

If they ever got in to power I'd leave.

Thankfully, here in Norwich only 900-and-something out of however many thousands of people (can't find the population count anywhere) voted for the c*nts.
 

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Yeah, I feel alienated quite a bit. American, former military, and I'm a bit tired of the political spectrum here. I'm tired of Democrats being called Communists, and I'm tired of Republicans being called Nazis. I'm tired of a two party system that won't allow any third ideology to even debate in the national scene. I'm tired of the political parties pushing some dumb, skewed perspective rather than fighting for the good of the country, like all the rest of my brothers-in-arms are doing right now. All I want is for people to sit down and actually talk, and respect that everyone has a different way of looking at a situation. All the mindless arguing and name-calling and mud-slinging while the military fights for what they believe is right, while the police search for criminals at great personal risk to themselves (like the four policemen that just recently got gunned down in Lakewood, Washington, USA, please pray for/hope for/remember them and their families), like the social activists that try to spread their words on how to make this country a better place no matter what people might say to them. I feel alienated because I'm stuggling to pay my rent and the government jsut gave billions to huge corporations that were squandering money to begin with. Guess what they're doing with it now!
Anyway, I know most of this is old news, but there are many reasons why I feel alienated by my country. The squabbling and the interest in preserving the elite is annoying. Not that I have anything against companies that do well. But if a company does poorly and is going to fall, I don't think re-allocating the money of the poor to the rich is the right answer. I feel alienated because out of my $900 paychecks, $250 goes to the government, and subsequently, to people who are already rich. I need that money more than they do, and I earned it.
Lulz, a non-sweed complains about taxes...
In sweden, 30% of our income goes to taxes. And that as long as you have a annual income of 200 000 kr(1 dollar is 7.50 kronor). This increases exponentially the more you make, up to 50%.

I'm not completely sure thou, could be more.

On the other hand, this pays for free health care and school. We also get served food for free at school, which i heard is quite rare in the rest of the world.
 

Disaster Button

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Woodsey said:
Disaster Button said:
I'm British and yes. Especially with all the rising BNP support.
Exactly the same.

I can't believe the amount of racist and/or ignorant c*nts that are cropping up everywhere - quite a few things are starting to mirror how the Nazis got into power, which is only slightly worrying.

If they ever got in to power I'd leave.

Thankfully, here in Norwich only 900-and-something out of however many thousands of people (can't find the population count anywhere) voted for the c*nts.
The worst part is how many people believe the BNP aren't actually racist and are just going to halt immigration. And those who actually know the truth still don't care as they just want anyone who isn't white out the country.

Even my dad believes their lies and he's actually an intelligent man, usually. I just hope that everyone else doesn't end up like him or else we are in serious shit. But I have a feeling that things are only going to get worse in the next few years.
 

Woodsey

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Disaster Button said:
Woodsey said:
Disaster Button said:
I'm British and yes. Especially with all the rising BNP support.
Exactly the same.

I can't believe the amount of racist and/or ignorant c*nts that are cropping up everywhere - quite a few things are starting to mirror how the Nazis got into power, which is only slightly worrying.

If they ever got in to power I'd leave.

Thankfully, here in Norwich only 900-and-something out of however many thousands of people (can't find the population count anywhere) voted for the c*nts.
The worst part is how many people believe the BNP aren't actually racist and are just going to halt immigration. And those who actually know the truth still don't care as they just want anyone who isn't white out the country.

Even my dad believes their lies and he's actually an intelligent man, usually. I just hope that everyone else doesn't end up like him or else we are in serious shit. But I have a feeling that things are only going to get worse in the next few years.
The idea that they're going to halt immigration and then remove us from the EU - I mean, there aren't any problems at all that I can see with cutting us off from the people who we do something like 70%+ of our trade with...

Christ, the amount of people on the doll in this country (who were born here, are white, and are counted as true-Brits by the BNP) is ridiculous. Yes, SOME people will come here and live off the doll, but many come to work and to live.

Over 50% of NHS workers are from other countries or of foreign descent, so yeah, what a bunch of lazy bastards; coming over here and helping us get better.

Idiots.

Nick Griffin spends the entire time he's speaking to someone outside of his own party explaining how he didn't actually mean everything he's just said.
 

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Woodsey said:
Disaster Button said:
Woodsey said:
Disaster Button said:
I'm British and yes. Especially with all the rising BNP support.
Exactly the same.

I can't believe the amount of racist and/or ignorant c*nts that are cropping up everywhere - quite a few things are starting to mirror how the Nazis got into power, which is only slightly worrying.

If they ever got in to power I'd leave.

Thankfully, here in Norwich only 900-and-something out of however many thousands of people (can't find the population count anywhere) voted for the c*nts.
The worst part is how many people believe the BNP aren't actually racist and are just going to halt immigration. And those who actually know the truth still don't care as they just want anyone who isn't white out the country.

Even my dad believes their lies and he's actually an intelligent man, usually. I just hope that everyone else doesn't end up like him or else we are in serious shit. But I have a feeling that things are only going to get worse in the next few years.
The idea that they're going to halt immigration and then remove us from the EU - I mean, there aren't any problems at all that I can see with cutting us off from the people who we do something like 70%+ of our trade with...

Christ, the amount of people on the doll in this country (who were born here, are white, and are counted as true-Brits by the BNP) is ridiculous. Yes, SOME people will come here and live off the doll, but many come to work and to live.

Over 50% of NHS workers are from other countries or of foreign descent, so yeah, what a bunch of lazy bastards; coming over here and helping us get better.

Idiots.

Nick Griffin spends the entire time he's speaking to someone outside of his own party explaining how he didn't actually mean everything he's just said.
Yeah that's something I hate. The people who are considered "true Brits" who just plan to coaste through life on benefits. If anything they should be chucked out the country, but anyone who says all immigrants just steal from the system is a right ignorant dick, just like Nick Griffin.

And the fact he manages to lead anything is amazing, he's the most uncharasmatic, unintelligent, retarded coward I've ever seen. And the fact that he tries to dispute recorded evidence of him promoting his Nazi beliefs by saying "Ur I dunno why I said those things.." is just a testament to his idiocy. It also shows how stupid the people are who follow him because even if they support some his beliefs they should at least see he is an awful leader who wants nothing more than a "white Britain" even though that's impossible. Even the original settlers here weren't from Britain, they just invaded, although according to him, white Britains were released from the ice after the ice age, which is just another reason to hate him.
 

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Kollega said:
Every coutry that was formerly part of USSR is still in very bad shape. Except maybe for Russia, which is in simply bad shape. So no, nothing to be proud of here. I percieve myself more like "citizen of the world" - i'm surely not gonna stay here for the rest of my life, and one of my dreams is to live onboard of a big blimp, being a man not particulary tied to any country.
That sounds awesome. We should get a load of us in blimps and start our own floating country!
 

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Russia rocks. I wouldn't choose "Russian Federation" in the "country" field if I thought different. Someone, who thinks, what Russia it's just a vodka, bears and caps with earflaps, can rape himself through earhole.
With all respect.
I love my country, I love my language, and I'm a part of it all. My own sincere respect to everyone, who thinks same way about they homeland. Wherever I am, and whichever language I speak - I'm still russian. And I won't take my words back (like someone cares ^_^).
 

Nickolai77

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Disaster Button said:
Woodsey said:
Disaster Button said:
I'm British and yes. Especially with all the rising BNP support.
Exactly the same.

I can't believe the amount of racist and/or ignorant c*nts that are cropping up everywhere - quite a few things are starting to mirror how the Nazis got into power, which is only slightly worrying.

If they ever got in to power I'd leave.

Thankfully, here in Norwich only 900-and-something out of however many thousands of people (can't find the population count anywhere) voted for the c*nts.
The worst part is how many people believe the BNP aren't actually racist and are just going to halt immigration. And those who actually know the truth still don't care as they just want anyone who isn't white out the country.

Even my dad believes their lies and he's actually an intelligent man, usually. I just hope that everyone else doesn't end up like him or else we are in serious shit. But I have a feeling that things are only going to get worse in the next few years.
I think the whole BNP scare is overblown, if we are not careful it will turn into some kind of McCarthy "Red Scare". Americans are scared out of their wits by Communists, Brit's are scared out of their wits by Facists. The amount of support the BNP get is tiny, and the amount of attention they get is way more than reasonable. Once the economy gets going again, or once we have another general election, the media will get bored of the BNp, and the BNP will slip back into obscurity.

On topic- I don't really feel alienated from my country. Not sure why. I'm happy to have been born and bred in England, it's a relativly decent country. The English people as a whole are, relativly decent, like any country really. There are a few things that bother and annoy me about the UK (Political correctness, Euro-phobia and Chavs) and a few things i like (The history, pub-culture, the BBC) So, carn't really complain.
 

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Nickolai77 said:
Disaster Button said:
Woodsey said:
Disaster Button said:
I'm British and yes. Especially with all the rising BNP support.
Exactly the same.

I can't believe the amount of racist and/or ignorant c*nts that are cropping up everywhere - quite a few things are starting to mirror how the Nazis got into power, which is only slightly worrying.

If they ever got in to power I'd leave.

Thankfully, here in Norwich only 900-and-something out of however many thousands of people (can't find the population count anywhere) voted for the c*nts.
The worst part is how many people believe the BNP aren't actually racist and are just going to halt immigration. And those who actually know the truth still don't care as they just want anyone who isn't white out the country.

Even my dad believes their lies and he's actually an intelligent man, usually. I just hope that everyone else doesn't end up like him or else we are in serious shit. But I have a feeling that things are only going to get worse in the next few years.
I think the whole BNP scare is overblown, if we are not careful it will turn into some kind of McCarthy "Red Scare". Americans are scared out of their wits by Communists, Brit's are scared out of their wits by Facists. The amount of support the BNP get is tiny, and the amount of attention they get is way more than reasonable. Once the economy gets going again, or once we have another general election, the media will get bored of the BNp, and the BNP will slip back into obscurity.
I hope you're right but although the BNP support is small, it is a lot bigger than it used to be. I hope that they'll never bcome any bigger but things could easily and probably will get a lot worse, whether it will start to make a big difference or not I'm not sure but there's deffinitely a lot more of a potential threat here than the Red Scare, although I'm not sure how big that ever was, and I'm probably a bit biased as I sort of support Communism... But yeah, I hope that nothing ever comes of it.
 

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Disaster Button said:
I hope you're right but although the BNP support is small, it is a lot bigger than it used to be. I hope that they'll never bcome any bigger but things could easily and probably will get a lot worse, whether it will start to make a big difference or not I'm not sure but there's deffinitely a lot more of a potential threat here than the Red Scare, although I'm not sure how big that ever was, and I'm probably a bit biased as I sort of support Communism... But yeah, I hope that nothing ever comes of it.

I don't think the Red Scare was ever as big as it really was, Mc Carthy certainly overblown it. The reason why is because America is not "culturally" communist or left leaning, unlike Europe which due to its history of poverty has an innate sense of "fairness" Which is why Communism was pretty big in Europe after WW2.The French communist party was big in the 1950's, as was their equivalent in Italy. Britains labour government in the 1940's was also clearly socalist.
Britain is not "culturally" inclined to facism, due to our history in WW2, we have been weary about war since WW1, and really i think most Brits are too apathetic to be be patrotic nationalists. The only thing the BNP has going for it is British xenophobia, but they can not come to power on that one thing.
 

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I hate humanity, thereforth I hate the governing force of humanity, which is the goverment.

Also I hate the companies that control everything, really, high oil prices in U.K is due to artificial inflation, theiving bastards.
 

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Demented Teddy said:
No offence but people like ye just don't undersatnd.
Like I said, you don't have a choice in the country you're from, it's like being proud for being white, having ears or being human. I'm not seeing anything to be proud of, you didn't do anything to be from a certain country, it's luck (or bad luck, depending on the country). So, instead of saying "You don't understand" because well, that's exactly what I said (to quote myself" I never could understand that"), explain why it would make sense.
 

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UltraParanoia said:
DiscoveryOne said:
Tea Bagger
ReincarnatedFTP said:
teabagger
Oh, does this mean I can call you cocksuckers because I disagree with your political ideology?
They call it the Tea Bagging movement, and they call themselves teabaggers! haha
seriously, even if you agree with them and want to make fun of them... you just need to make a declarative statement about them! I love it.

Ive talked to many of them at rallies, theyre misinformed, stupid and loud.
theyre the right wing version of the lefty misinformed, stupid and loud college students playing hacky-sack at anti-war rallies. that's all.

but politics is all about the extremities and what lies between them in the spectrum. So of course not ALL people who protest with them are like that- but there are groups like that in the protesting of any kind of legislation or government. Not to mention both use the president as Hitler... Im beginning to wonder if anyone really remembers their WWII and before history
 

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UltraParanoia said:
DiscoveryOne said:
Tea Bagger
ReincarnatedFTP said:
teabagger
Oh, does this mean I can call you cocksuckers because I disagree with your political ideology?
Um...they called themselves that, because they were hilariously out of touch with what the term meant. Then they changed the story and said "the dirty LIBS DID IT! LIBERALS!!LIBERALS!!!" They brought it on themselves. When I go start a rally and call myself a cocksucker at a cocksucking rally, then it will be the same.
 

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It may just be because she's Irish, we have a long history of having a very strong national pride, partly due to not actually having a nation up until 80 years ago.
It's that national pride I do not understand. I mean, it's an arbitrary patch of land, in the end you're just as human as someone born 10.000 miles from your patch of land. Why divide yourself up so much, it's not getting humanity anywhere, we're a weird species sometimes, one I just can't wrap my head around.
 

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I'm Australian. I'm also a gamer (obviously, or I wouldn't be here). Can you guess how I voted?
 

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BonsaiK said:
I'm Australian. I'm also a gamer (obviously, or I wouldn't be here). Can you guess how I voted?
Dam Ninjad

Also im scared Rudd's gonna turn Australia into the next China. Also I'm so sick to shit of ACTA, people trying to get rid of net neutrality and a proposal for a fucking mandatory internet filter (In Australia) that will only work to slow the internet down.

I heard in the year 2012 net neutrality will no longer exist, that's what the Mayans meant by the end of the world, cause if net neutrality goes I'll kill every single human being out of frustration.