Poll: Necromorphs vs Flood

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Scarim Coral

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I say Necromorphs I mean doesn't the Flood need the human alive in order for it to become a Flood? I just assume if a human is throw into a pit like area with both of them and chances are the human would be dead and thus become a Nercomorph.
 
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I love how this thread is about Flood and Necromorphs and people think it is relevant to talk about other things...

Anyway

OT: Flood would win, they are super intelligent and can use technology.
 

Geo Da Sponge

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Sonicron said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
Sonicron said:
paragon1 said:
Necromorphs eat dead bodies. Nids eat biomass. Flood eat everything.
What do you think Necromorphs and Flood are...?

They're biomass. All of them. One Tyranid hive fleet (even just a splinter fleet) would be the doom of both other factions.
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Why? I know it's the cool thing on these forums to go on about how all powerful and epic the Warhammer 40K races are, but has anyone actually thought about this? Tyranids: an entirely organic army. Flood: capable of infecting and directly controlling any significantly sized organic being. One infection flood form could infect an entire Tyranid hive fleet and the only easy way to stop them properly is an orbital bombardment, something the Tyranids can't do. Add to that the fact that the Flood gain access to the knowledge of those they infect so it's entirely possible they could hijack the Tyranid hive mind.
Nids have a head start, so to speak. They are literally innumerable. And even if a Flood form managed to infest a Tyranid organism, the others would just dispose of it (it's a question of numbers in this case, Nids would overwhelm the Flood in a metaphorical heartbeat, I think). Hijacking the hivemind is also out of the question, because even if the Flood get their greedy mitts on a synapse creature, the link is easily severed, and seeing how the hivemind is completely decentralized, taking it over isn't a possiblity.

Yes, yes, I know, it's all just theory. How should I know if a biological feedback screech is possible or not? I simply don't think it can be done. Maybe the Flood could tap into the knowledge of the hivemind, but I don't think they could bend it to their will.

By the way, don't the Tyranids basically do the same as the Flood when it comes to utilizing an enemy's strengths? I know they don't literally take over bodies, but they do incorporate possible design strengths of defeated organisms into their own biostructure.
Well the Tyranids only have a head start in numbers if you're counting from the Flood's position in the Halo games. Before then they tore through all the life in the galaxy and brought down the Forerunners, an incredibly advanced race. Considering that the Tyranids have also done that, we should consider them on an equal footing in terms of numbers. It also seems unlikely that other tyranids could deal with the infected ones that quickly; compare the physical abilities of a human to an infected human (especially how far they can jump) and then imagine this down to a tyranid. Consider also that, unless you have personal shields, the basic infection forms are very deadly. They've been shown to be able to dig through a marine's armour, through his rib cage and then turn him into a full combat form in about five seconds flat.

Also the Flood wouldn't have to take control of the entire hive mind, they could attempt to do so on a smaller scale, using synapse creatures they've gained control of to give contradictory orders to uninfected non-synapse creatures.

As for the Tyranids utilizing an enemies strengths, they have to hoover up an entire planet and spend a lot of time incorporating that into their next genration of predators. The Flood can do it in seconds.
 

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To be honest, I'm more interested to find out what happens if a Headcrab tries to "couple" with a host who already has a Facehugger on it. Or vice versa.

Cause if it were a Facehugger on a Headcrab zombie, then the whole chest-bursting bit's already been done, so does that make it easier to get out or does it just fall out of the shattered ribcage pre-germination like some kind of alien embryo?

And if it were a Headcrab on a Facehugger corpse, then it would probably eat the Facehugger, but then the Alien would explode out of it and kill it maybe?

Shit, I don't even know, but it would be awesome to spectate the whole event in either case.
 

The Hive Mind

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Well Necromorphs are mutant corpses and Flood are mutated people/aliens so there's no reason the two couldn't co-exist.

Flood get the living subjects and when the hosts die the Necromorphs get the corpses and anything left of the corpses when the Necromorphs are slain can be used as Flood material.

It could work.
I see the start of a beautiful relationship :)



Also, in a fight between the Necromorphs and the Flood, the Flood would win, however in terms of which would be more deadly to humanity it would have to be the Necromorphs -- they don't just eat you like the Flood do, they give you horrific nightmares, drive you crazy and cause you to commit suicide.
 

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WILL PEOPLE PLEASE STOP SAYING TYRANIDS?!! this is about the flood and the morphs anyways im going flood for a few simple reasons
A. No need for a marker, can infect anything at any time.
B. Never seem to die (the fore runners used a ring and they came back).
C. Can use guns
D.Grave mind has all the inteligence of every single flood infected being there is and has been. (infect isaac or someone else who knows about markers and you know how to destroy them.)
E. Can infect morphs
 

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Random question would the flood not infect a ship or planet of Tyranids then attack another Tyranid infested world so you would have a infected tyranid vs normal tyranid war.

If that would happen the tyranids would never be able to win as the biomass used by the infect tyranids would increase there size.

So you would have infected tyranids and the flood vs tyranids
 

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Scarim Coral said:
I say Necromorphs I mean doesn't the Flood need the human alive in order for it to become a Flood? I just assume if a human is throw into a pit like area with both of them and chances are the human would be dead and thus become a Nercomorph.
Actually the flood can take control of a dead being (you never seen em go inside a dead brute?)
 

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Rusty Bucket said:
Neither. Tyranids would devour them both.
The Tyrannid Hive fleet(the whole thing, not the branches) is simply too large to be reasonable. It's larger than the whole Milky Way galaxy; that's just too much. Also they would realistically be terrible at war. They're incredibly slow when traveling in space, and have limited offensive potential therein. Simply bombard then from far away while pulling back as necessary. They're only ever a threat when they're already there, and you can see them coming literally decades beforehand. Just not practical.
 

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yeah i say bungie mightve created the ultimate species of spacecrabs with the flood
only real weakness i can see (aside from silver bullet vaccine bs) would their reliance on mr. gravemind and need for fresh bodies

plus their goals just a bit less evil if you think about
tyranids = sadistic xenomorphs
necromorphs want to drive everyone insane
flood just want to unify existance
 

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Between the Necromorphs and the Flood, I'd say the Flood.
We don't even know how many galaxies they have consumed (same with the nids), so we don't know how large their numbers are.
Also the Flood pure forms can probably take any form the Gravemind wants.

EDIT: the Necros are are a lot scarier though. :p
 

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That's a hard question because they both have their pros and cons... some they even share such as being complete assholes when the gang up on you and ever where you look their either falling down on you or poping out of no where but I picked necromorphs because they don't remind me of zits or warts
 

FoAmY99

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Flood, simply because of the fact they gain intelligence from every new host, making them more and more dangerous the longer you let an outbreak go unchecked. When your enemy starts using your own tech against you, you know its time for desperate measures (wiping out all organic life in galaxy in order to starve the Flood and even that didn't work entirely)

Necromorphs however, seem to stay mostly animal like with what I describe as rudimentary intelligence. That is to say they have a basic level of smarts, they don't seem to gain anything when they infect someone new. Now I haven't played Dead Space 2 yet so maybe there's more to this because of what the Marker does but I think even with the power of the Marker, the Flood will continue to have a significant advantage.
 

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I vote humans. didn't we kill all these ugly bastards? we always win. we're the best parasites in the universe! go team human!
 

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MercurySteam said:
Sorry mate, Tyranids can completely tyrannoform at planet in 30 days. They're the ultimate parasite.

In this one, Flood wins easily. They infect everything! EVERYTHING!
 

EightGaugeHippo

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The flood actually made a nonscary game, fairly scary (at the time).
But necromorphs are tring too hard and just make it bland.
 

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EightGaugeHippo said:
The flood actually made a nonscary game, fairly scary (at the time).
But necromorphs are tring too hard and just make it bland.
??? How so?