Very good or even a little bit good veterans won't get the banhammer, because even with strict rules, they are easy to follow.Ramare said:
Poll: New forum rules - Yay or Nay?
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So forgive me if this has already been addressed, but after 31 pages it's easy to miss something. I'm trying to understand exactly what you mean by this;
You say this is supposed to be making the forum better but I don't see how. All I see is a lot of confusion and pissed of members.
Going purely on what that says, anything you do that is an infraction against the rules, no matter how minor, will result in a suspension if you are on probation. That seems incredibly harsh. I thought the Escapist dictated what punishment you would receive more on what the actual violation was rather than how many times you've been in trouble. If someone were to make a single careless low-content post while on probation they would be suspended without question. I don't see that as fair at all. With how vague the rules can be and how much bias there is amongst community moderators, forcing such harsh punishments for even the most minor infractions doesn't sit right with me.
You say this is supposed to be making the forum better but I don't see how. All I see is a lot of confusion and pissed of members.
I have no real issue or problem with the new rules, to be perfectly honest. I do, however, have an issue with a rule that's apparently been around for a while.
Specifically, the low content rule as relates to pictures. I've received a handful of warnings and/or probations for "low content" because I posted a picture that completely encapsulated everything I had to say.
It makes no sense to blindly throw moderations solely because there's a picture and no text. There's the whole thing with "a picture speaks a thousand words" and all that.
Specifically, the low content rule as relates to pictures. I've received a handful of warnings and/or probations for "low content" because I posted a picture that completely encapsulated everything I had to say.
It makes no sense to blindly throw moderations solely because there's a picture and no text. There's the whole thing with "a picture speaks a thousand words" and all that.
This sounds good to me. Still don't see the point on making the health gauge public but with this change I can live with it.Spinwhiz said:
Nice to see our opinion matters
I always find it amazing how many people really misunderstand their 'right' to free speech. So many people seem to think it means they can chat about anything they like, anywhere. And that's simply not true. Even when you're a publicly held venue, there are limitations on how and what you are allowed to discuss. If you don't believe that, I suggest looking up the legal concepts "hate speech" and/or "fighting words".
When you're using The Escapist's forums - something that they own - they have the right to dictate what is acceptable and non-acceptable topics of discussion. And as Virgil stated, if you're in disagreement with that, they invite you to go elsewhere.
And frankly, I'm aghast that somehow pedophilia became of the "Cause célèbre" of some of the people disagreeing with the new rules. Out of all the things you could have possibly chosen as the basis for your arguments, you went with that. I think you'd have had better luck trying to convince the moderation staff that the "using large amounts of ... and CAPS is against our policies" rule is arbitrary. Even though fairly universally disliked in chat channel and forums, the general prohibition of it is based upon the perception that it's considered shouting and therefore ill-mannered; and I suppose an argument could be made that that isn't a universal perception. However, it's still the forum owners right to tell you not to go nuts with the caps; just as they have the right to tell you what you aren't allowed to discuss here.
Unfortunately, whenever rules are modified, the 'rules lawyers' come out of the woodwork to pick apart every line. Perhaps the thing to remember here is that the forum rules are not a legally binding contract, and you should focus more on the intent and spirit of the rules, and not dissect each sentence for possible loopholes.
When you're using The Escapist's forums - something that they own - they have the right to dictate what is acceptable and non-acceptable topics of discussion. And as Virgil stated, if you're in disagreement with that, they invite you to go elsewhere.
And frankly, I'm aghast that somehow pedophilia became of the "Cause célèbre" of some of the people disagreeing with the new rules. Out of all the things you could have possibly chosen as the basis for your arguments, you went with that. I think you'd have had better luck trying to convince the moderation staff that the "using large amounts of ... and CAPS is against our policies" rule is arbitrary. Even though fairly universally disliked in chat channel and forums, the general prohibition of it is based upon the perception that it's considered shouting and therefore ill-mannered; and I suppose an argument could be made that that isn't a universal perception. However, it's still the forum owners right to tell you not to go nuts with the caps; just as they have the right to tell you what you aren't allowed to discuss here.
Unfortunately, whenever rules are modified, the 'rules lawyers' come out of the woodwork to pick apart every line. Perhaps the thing to remember here is that the forum rules are not a legally binding contract, and you should focus more on the intent and spirit of the rules, and not dissect each sentence for possible loopholes.
Im not sure, where are the rules. If one comment can get you permanent banned i find that a little unfair. Is there a threshold of badness that warrants a permanent ban
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/codeofconductDonttazemehbro said:
Here they are, but they're slightly outdated. Currently you lose 1 stike every six months, if you have no further infractions, and a clean slate every 2 years with no further infractions.
Eh i couldn't care less, what i dont agree with is the "small post" thing. So if i dont write more than two lines do i get a strike or something? What if i have an opinion that isnt that great or not that well thought out but i wish to express it. I find that policy a little weird. Other than that i dont really care.
Maybe it was changed since you posted this but down at the bottom it said something about six months of good behavior restoring a point of hps.
nothing is going to change unless you leave escapist or protest
as it is i'm afraid to start a post for fear of moderator wrath. I was warned the first time because my reply wasn't long enough. The second time because it wasn't discussable enough.
so what can u do,, not much , unless you leave (and let the moderators know why) or protest, or a petition)
as it is i'm afraid to start a post for fear of moderator wrath. I was warned the first time because my reply wasn't long enough. The second time because it wasn't discussable enough.
so what can u do,, not much , unless you leave (and let the moderators know why) or protest, or a petition)