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Erana

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Shio said:
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AccursedTheory said:
You keep saying that. Please explain how you came to that conclusion. Perhaps this can clear up some things.
Sure.

In my view, art, be it in the form of story telling, poetry, music or design, has more place on a website dedicated to "the gaming lifestyle", something defined by its artistic place in society, than off-topic discussion and politics. One could use the same argument to suggest that if you want to talk off-topic, go to a chat room.

Again, that is just my subjective opinion.
You are forgetting entirely the biggest factor of the Escapist forums: The Escapist community. Creating an art forum solely for the fact that it is tangentially related to the "Gaming lifestyle" does not fulfill a need of the people who make up these forums.

There is a demand for the Off-topic forum, so they made it. (Well, they made it by default as all forums have one, but still) There was a large number of forum games and RP, so they made a subforum for that, too. And then they did it for religion and politics, and again for the Advice forum.
And I was there, I saw what the forums were like before and after. The thing is, its not just that there were a lot of people making threads for these topics, its that in order to maintain the consistency of moderation, isolating these types of threads allowed for a policing specific to that sort of discussion.

There simply is not a real demand for an art subforum, as you can see by the blatant lack of art threads in every single non-news, non-website content section. And the needs of the people who would partake in an art subforum have their needs already met by way of the Advice forum, user groups and off topic threads.
Good points.

I still think a forum would benefit the community, though.
Why?
 

Shio

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I think people who had otherwise not looked into that sort of thing could fine an interest. I could also see it becoming popular and attracting more people to the site, which is a chance to gain more members and increase ad revenue. In a more direct way, I see people sharing ideas and great things being made. Maybe I'm off in dream land, but I could honestly imagine something of a project emerging; people asking for auditions in their movie, tips on their latest art project, starting a fanfiction circle where each member contributes one paragraph or chapter. Stuff like that.
 

Womplord

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Sounds awesome! I think the escapist is more sophisticated than a simple On/Off Topic approach... Although I'm not sure if it would be more of a gimic and I would get bord after a week or two... the idea seems pretty sound though. There was an art thread a while back that grew to a massive size so it seems to have some support I guess.
 

Erana

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Shio said:
Erana said:
I think people who had otherwise not looked into that sort of thing could fine an interest. I could also see it becoming popular and attracting more people to the site, which is a chance to gain more members and increase ad revenue. In a more direct way, I see people sharing ideas and great things being made. Maybe I'm off in dream land, but I could honestly imagine something of a project emerging; people asking for auditions in their movie, tips on their latest art project, starting a fanfiction circle where each member contributes one paragraph or chapter. Stuff like that.
"I think people who had otherwise not looked into that sort of thing could fine an interest."
Why would they find it in an Escapist art subforum, rather than anywhere else in the internet or the world?

"I could honestly imagine something of a project emerging"
It would be acceptable to make a thread in the Off-topic section for this purpose.

"people asking for auditions in their movie,"
This happens in the "Job" subforum.

"tips on their latest art project,"
This should be put in the Advice forum.

"starting a fanfiction circle where each member contributes one paragraph or chapter. "
This could be done in a variety of ways, from usergroup to a sort-of RP thread, to even the Gaming forum, if it was created as media for the Escapist community.

"I could also see it becoming popular and attracting more people to the site, which is a chance to gain more members and increase ad revenue."
It could possibly become popular, but it does not serve the community. And there are tons of things the Escapist staff could do to increase revenue, but do not because it would not because it does not suit their intentions. Their primary source of revenue is from ads due to the official Escapist content, whose audience far overshadows the size of the forum goers.

"Maybe I'm off in dream land,"
Honestly, I think you are a bit. And that's not a bad thing in itself; ideals and creativity are great. The thing is, the reasons you are suggesting an Art subforum spawn from your dream of a large, nerdy art community, and it seems to me that you are projecting it upon the Escapist because it would be a more feasible vehicle for your vision.
I could take the same points you have given here and apply it to almost any forum.

If you want to help the Escapist art community grow, then go out and do it. Go get active in the art usergroups. Go and make a thread for a collaboration fanfic. The means to do so are already here, and Creative Escapist are here, you just have to find us. If there is a clear need for an art subforum, I'm sure the staff would be happy to oblige, with a new set of mods chosen specifically to cater to us.
 

Smooth Operator

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It's a great idea actually, but that art still needs to be closely monitored, we don't want it to get filled with porn and spam adds.
 

GeorgW

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Yeah, I like it, but I think I'd grew tired of it on the recent posts feed. If you'd just exclude it from that, I'd like it. I mean, it wouldn't bother me. Plus, we'd get a new mod, and that's always nice!
But it has to happen naturally, like the way advice was created.
 

TimeLord

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GeorgW said:
Yeah, I like it, but I think I'd grew tired of it on the recent posts feed. If you'd just exclude it from that, I'd like it. I mean, it wouldn't bother me.
I think that should be a settings option. Being able to select which forums' threads appear in recent threads.
 

Sarynroth

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Couldn't you just post your work in this thread?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.72805-The-artist-in-thee

Or if you want competitions the concept art site has weekly challenges and the like, and in my opinion has a better community than deviant art.
 

GeorgW

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TimeLord said:
GeorgW said:
Yeah, I like it, but I think I'd grew tired of it on the recent posts feed. If you'd just exclude it from that, I'd like it. I mean, it wouldn't bother me.
I think that should be a settings option. Being able to select which forums' threads appear in recent threads.
That's a good idea, bring it up in the idea group.
Forum games are automatically shut off I think.
 

Shio

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I've seen it work on other websites before. I reckon if they think they have enough moderation they could try it out. Honestly I'm surprised there isn't a user content section.

The advertisement would be a problem but like I said, moderation.
I was surprised to. I'd have thought something like it would have existed from the start.
 

Kair

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If the art stayed very far away from pretense, perhaps I would take a look at it.
 

Goldeneye103X2

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I'd definitely give it a shot or two. I quite like the idea, and on a website like this, I doubt that we'd get terrible sonic fan fiction and angst twilight art and other ridiculous deviant art fare. (Okay, so I'm making a huge generalisation here, but you know what I mean.)
 

Fwee

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I can see it as a kind of DeviantArt for games, but that's kind of NewGround's deal, isn't it?
I'd love to contribute in any way to developing games, but I seriously doubt if it would be of any benefit to me considering all I'd wind up getting is a single line of credit.
 

Knusper

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I'd look at the stuff put on there but I wouldn't contribute because I am as uncreative and unoriginal as this analogy.
 

Shio

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Knusper said:
I'd look at the stuff put on there but I wouldn't contribute because I am as uncreative and unoriginal as this analogy.
That was actually pretty funny.

You failed at failing! You... win?
 

Shio

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TestECull said:
I wouldn't. Then again I'm no art fan, I don't even like the super famous works.
Sure you are! You like video games, right :p
 

Sharalon

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Yeah, I'm with you on this (not only because you offered me a hug). A place to submit your games and other related stuff on a gaming site makes sense.

But they would have to make sure that there aren't a bunch of viruses uploaded every day. Nothing worse than a place to show your work where people are afraid to watch it.
 

Legendsmith

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Interesting proposition.
I'd use it. However I think it may be a good idea to keep it to video game art and the like.