Er, Sega does have a Warhammer license. Creative Assembly is making a Fantasy Battle total war game. And Relic apparently *is* working on another 40K game that hasn't been announced yet. I was listening to a podcast (can't remember which) where one of the dev team leaders mentioned that they were working on something 40K related. Probably not Spess Mahreen 2, but I'm really hoping for Dawn of War 3. Their early talks about ramping up the "Heroes vs Armies" unit composition sounded really cool. Lots of troops with one super powerful hero, or small numbers of troops that are individually stronger like the DOW2 singleplayer Marines?Zipa said:Relic were a THQ developer so the license likely went down with THQ. Sega who bought Relic would likely have to get a new license from GW.Laggyteabag said:All I really care about is if this guy can stop giving licences to shovelware developers. I mean, there must've been a pretty large line of developers who were interested in working with the 40K universe, so why in the hell did they give it to the devs of Ride to Hell: Retribution of all people? AND WHY DO THEY KEEP ON MAKING iOS AND ANDROID GAMES?!
Sure we have that MMO game on the way, and that is cool and all, but then we also have that 40K chess game coming out, which was certainly a weird use of the licence, but the real question is, where is the Dawn of War 3 and the Space Marine 2? What the hell is Relic doing and why do they (presumably) not have the rights to make 40K games anymore? They did good before, let them carry on!
Oh cool I didn't know that. If its Relic working on it we can at least be reasonable that it won't be another shovelware game. If they do make a DOW III it will be interesting to see if they stick with the Blood Ravens again considering they have taken massive losses in the previous games.Soviet Heavy said:Er, Sega does have a Warhammer license. Creative Assembly is making a Fantasy Battle total war game. And Relic apparently *is* working on another 40K game that hasn't been announced yet. I was listening to a podcast (can't remember which) where one of the dev team leaders mentioned that they were working on something 40K related. Probably not Spess Mahreen 2, but I'm really hoping for Dawn of War 3. Their early talks about ramping up the "Heroes vs Armies" unit composition sounded really cool. Lots of troops with one super powerful hero, or small numbers of troops that are individually stronger like the DOW2 singleplayer Marines?Zipa said:Relic were a THQ developer so the license likely went down with THQ. Sega who bought Relic would likely have to get a new license from GW.Laggyteabag said:All I really care about is if this guy can stop giving licences to shovelware developers. I mean, there must've been a pretty large line of developers who were interested in working with the 40K universe, so why in the hell did they give it to the devs of Ride to Hell: Retribution of all people? AND WHY DO THEY KEEP ON MAKING iOS AND ANDROID GAMES?!
Sure we have that MMO game on the way, and that is cool and all, but then we also have that 40K chess game coming out, which was certainly a weird use of the licence, but the real question is, where is the Dawn of War 3 and the Space Marine 2? What the hell is Relic doing and why do they (presumably) not have the rights to make 40K games anymore? They did good before, let them carry on!
I googled it, and now I gotta ask; are those models metal? Because I really like the look and backstory, but I know from experience that working with metal models is a exercise in frustration and pain (for me and my klutzy hands at least).Mangod said:*sigh* I am so glad I jumped ship to Infinity. At least it's playable without selling your children to the shoe factory.
Sadly (for you), Infinity does indeed use metal models. Really nice metal models, but metal none the less.major_chaos said:I googled it, and now I gotta ask; are those models metal? Because I really like the look and backstory, but I know from experience that working with metal models is a exercise in frustration and pain (for me and my klutzy hands at least).Mangod said:*sigh* I am so glad I jumped ship to Infinity. At least it's playable without selling your children to the shoe factory.
OT: ehhhh, I doubt much will change. Even on a good day mega corporations are not known for being good at understanding why people don't like them or how to fix it, and history suggests GW is run by monkeys. Besides that, they are fucked no matter what if 3d printing becomes affordable, as people who play for the game stop buying the official models and just use ugly knockoffs they can mass produce in the basement, while people like me who enjoy the building/visual element as much as or more than the actual gameplay are driven by edition after edition of moronic rule changes to switch over to Gunpla or some other kind of more affordable model without a game attached to it.
?Games Workshop has had a really good year. If your measure of 'good' is making money, not losing it for no gain, you may not agree."taylorton147 said:?Games Workshop has had a really good year.
If your measure of 'good' is the current financial year's numbers, you may not agree. But if your measure is
the long-term survivability of a great cash generating business that still has a lot of potential growth, then you
will agree.?
was the opening quote for the report Mangod posted and it clearly shows they are just trying to ignore all their problems
Aren't those the old Jezzail models?taylorton147 said:http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Skaven-Warplock-Jezzails-Web-Bundle
these 9 cavalry sized models are £100. nevermind GW is doomed. im going to look else where for another hobby
they are resin models so my first guess would be that they are remakes, as to your other question. I really just like the GW lore and the customizability for your armies in terms of painting and models.Mangod said:Aren't those the old Jezzail models?taylorton147 said:http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Skaven-Warplock-Jezzails-Web-Bundle
these 9 cavalry sized models are £100. nevermind GW is doomed. im going to look else where for another hobby
Also, if you're looking for a different game to play, what are you interested in? GW style armies, or something smaller? For the former, I can recommend Warpath/Kings of War, which are both the budget versions of 40K/WHFB, respectively. If you want something smaller, then you can start with Warmachine/Hordes, and work your way down the size range from Infinity to Malifaux to MERCS.
captcha: Hello, Newman.
... my relationship with GW isn't that dissimilar from how Jerry and Newman felt about each other, actually.
Not just finecast versions of identical old metal models (only more expensive)?taylorton147 said:they are resin models so my first guess would be that they are remakes,
they could be? sorry I'm not too sure if they are or not. either way doesn't excuse the pricing thoughthaluikhain said:Not just finecast versions of identical old metal models (only more expensive)?taylorton147 said:they are resin models so my first guess would be that they are remakes,
Those are resin versions of the old jezzail teams that were released shortly after I started playing a scary number of years ago.taylorton147 said:they could be? sorry I'm not too sure if they are or not. either way doesn't excuse the pricing though
why does this piss me off more?? I guess its because they are charging more for something that took up no time in the creative process in designing new models and thus should be cheaper (ForumSafari said:Those are resin versions of the old jezzail teams that were released shortly after I started playing a scary number of years ago.taylorton147 said:they could be? sorry I'm not too sure if they are or not. either way doesn't excuse the pricing though
I tend to agree, any cost to maintain and replace the moulds should be offset by the lack of creative resources needed. The worst thing is that Games Workshop resin is bad in a way I've never seen any other company's resin be bad, not only are GW minis more expensive than most other games but their quality control is shit.taylorton147 said:why does this piss me off more?? I guess its because they are charging more for something that took up no time in the creative process in designing new models and thus should be cheaper (
That's not what accountants do, at least not to start with. If he's a good accountant his first move will be to gather a whole load of info and make sure he understands everything about the company's financial position.Siege_TF said:I heard he was some sort of accountant. The solution to GW's problems isn't 'pinch more pennies', and that's what I assume an accountant will go for.