THIS. And since I need a bit more, centurions actually had proper iron armour, rather than bits of bamboo. And their shields were pure awesome.Lethos said:Centurion.
Sorry, what?
The part where I explained why I thought ninjas would win in their own environment is in the part of my original post that was re3moved when it was quoted. To get to the part where I explained why a ninja would win I have to quote a bigger part:Abandon4093 said:They wouldn't be fighting.Yopaz said:Well in that case I stand by my idea that a ninja would win against a single samurai, but ninjas aren't really the warrior kind so they could probably be wiped out if the samurai was in his right element.MetalMagpie said:They were mainly warlords. So they led armies. Which is also a problem for a ninja.Yopaz said:I might be wrong here, but samurai were warriors right? So there are armies of samurai.
A ninja would try to kill a samurai whilst he was asleep, or by poisoning his sake/rice and if he failed he'd run.
That's what ninjas did. They didn't train to fight, they trained to escape bad situations.
Now I am aware that ninja wouldn't be fighting, but samurai would fight their enemies regardless if they fought back or not. So as I said, ninjas would win if they were in their environment. Correct me if I'm wrong, not if I am quoted out of context.I might be wrong here, but samurai were warriors right? So there are armies of samurai. I think this fight would depends solely on the conditions they were fighting in. One on one and a ninja would kill the samurai and he wouldn't know it
Actually you're both wrong, a ninja's worst nightmare is the lone outcast ninja. Nobody racks up a bigger ninja body count than the lone outcast ninja. If you happen to be that lone outcast ninja well then there ain't a god damn thing you fear.SckizoBoy said:A ninja's worst nightmare? Nah, don't think so, a ninja's worst nightmare is a better ninja with a different employer.A Satanic Panda said:In a fight? Tough to say. Ninjas have the element of surprise on their side, and reflexes that make a Navy SEAL jealous, but the Samurai are well armored, master sword fighters. A ninja's worst nightmare.
No, you did not refer to my full post at all. You replied to one of my posts which was a reply to someone who quoted me out of context. Read my post again. I did not blame you of quoting me out of context. I said you corrected me WHEN I was quoted out of context. The post you quoted was a reply that was in no way meant to be me repeating my original post. It was merely meant to reinforce the conclusion of my original post.Abandon4093 said:What I quoted was your full quote. Nothing out of context.Yopaz said:The part where I explained why I thought ninjas would win in their own environment is in the part of my original post that was re3moved when it was quoted. To get to the part where I explained why a ninja would win I have to quote a bigger part:Abandon4093 said:They wouldn't be fighting.Yopaz said:Well in that case I stand by my idea that a ninja would win against a single samurai, but ninjas aren't really the warrior kind so they could probably be wiped out if the samurai was in his right element.MetalMagpie said:They were mainly warlords. So they led armies. Which is also a problem for a ninja.Yopaz said:I might be wrong here, but samurai were warriors right? So there are armies of samurai.
A ninja would try to kill a samurai whilst he was asleep, or by poisoning his sake/rice and if he failed he'd run.
That's what ninjas did. They didn't train to fight, they trained to escape bad situations.
Now I am aware that ninja wouldn't be fighting, but samurai would fight their enemies regardless if they fought back or not. So as I said, ninjas would win if they were in their environment. Correct me if I'm wrong, not if I am quoted out of context.I might be wrong here, but samurai were warriors right? So there are armies of samurai. I think this fight would depends solely on the conditions they were fighting in. One on one and a ninja would kill the samurai and he wouldn't know it
And the point still stands that they wouldn't be fighting each other. One would be trying to assassinate the other and they'd run away if they failed.
It's like saying who'd win in a boxing match, a heavy weight boxer or an assassin.
They're two very different professions, so pitting them against each other in a straight up fight is completely pointless. That's the kinda shit deadliest warrior does.
Here is me saying ninjas wouldn't be fighting. Just please, if you still feel like replying to this post, read it before you tell me I'm wrong. I'm begging you.I might be wrong here, but samurai were warriors right? So there are armies of samurai. I think this fight would depends solely on the conditions they were fighting in. One on one and a ninja would kill the samurai and he wouldn't know it
Thank you. In this post you clearly show that I never mentioned them ACTUALLY fighting. You also managed to blatantly ignore the fact that I did not accuse you of quoting me out of context. I worked really hard to make that clear. You accuse me of not being clear yet this:Abandon4093 said:As I said, I quoted a full post. Don't believe I used the term 'refer'. And I have read all of your posts.Yopaz said:snip
Saying that X wins on X's terms and Y wins on Y's terms is just asinine. The whole who would win thing is just pointless. A ninja wouldn't fight a samurai so what's the point in asking who'd win? Ninjas assassinate, samurai's fight. You can't compare apples and oranges.
Also
Be clearer about what you're saying before you get all pissy.Still believe I mentioned fighting? Read this part from my last post:
I might be wrong here, but samurai were warriors right? So there are armies of samurai. I think this fight would depends solely on the conditions they were fighting in. One on one and a ninja would kill the samurai and he wouldn't know it
Is not clear enough for you. Please, is there any way I can make it more clear?I will repeat what I said in my last post: correct me if I'm wrong, not if I've been quoted out of context. Also since you didn't seem to understand it the last time, I have been quoted out of context, but you were not the one to do so.
Yes, the part that you quoted included me using the word fight. It also included me explaining that it wouldn't be an actual fight, but a samurai that would try to slaughter ninjas with their numbers and a ninja using stealth and killing the enemy without being noticed.Abandon4093 said:Except for the part where you say 'the fight'.Yopaz said:snip
Saying 'the ninja could kill the samurai before he knows what's happening' could mean any number of things. It wasn't clear what you were saying, especially considering you said the fight could go either way.
And the point I'm getting at is that I quoted a full post. If you don't think that's enough context for someone to quote you on you should put qualifiers on the post.
You're right, my condescending attitude here does nothing. I have spent several posts here trying to say that when I used the word fight I didn't mean an actual fight. I have repeated that numerous times in my posts and you don't seem to understand. I really don't think I can be bothered to try to explain this anymore since you're either trolling, unwilling to understand or simply too dense to understand. I don't care which one it is. I just really don't see a reason to explain my posts to someone who wants to ounce on someone for being wrong while not seeing that he didn't understand the posts he was trying to correct.Abandon4093 said:Your condescending attitude does you no favours.Yopaz said:snip because *yawn*
You said
That isn't clear enough for you to snark at someone when they assume you're talking about a ninja and a samurai fighting.... It's right fucking there in plain English.I think this fight would depends solely on the conditions they were fighting in. One on one and a ninja would kill the samurai and he wouldn't know it
"I think this fight would depends solely on the conditions they were fighting in."
They were fighting in
THEY WERE FIGHTING IN
[HEADING=1]THEY WERE FIGHTING IN[/HEADING]
Saying he'd 'kill a Samurai and he wouldn't know it' is about as vague a qualifier as you could possibly have made it.
Do you mean he would assassinate him? Because that wouldn't be a fight, rendering the first part of your sentence contradictory. Do you mean he'd use trickery in a fight? Do you mean he'd poison him before a fight?
You can't make unclear statements and then get all pissy when someone doesn't read your exact intentions from them..... Especially after you'd said
[HEADING=1]THEY WERE FIGHTING[/HEADING]
One sentence before.
And as I saidThe whole comparison is retarded.Saying that X wins on X's terms and Y wins on Y's terms is just asinine. The whole who would win thing is just pointless. A ninja wouldn't fight a samurai so what's the point in asking who'd win? Ninjas assassinate, samurai's fight. You can't compare apples and oranges.
Also
You see this?As you can see, specifying the basics of how a forum works in every post takes a little extra time and I assume most people understand that this is done. However I think I might have to start doing so based on your posts because you prove that not even seasoned forum users can be expected to understand the basics or even something spoken as clearly as I know how.
That was a response to a single and whole comment that has contained within, all the context required for someone to make a reply.Abandon4093 said:They wouldn't be fighting.Yopaz said:Well in that case I stand by my idea that a ninja would win against a single samurai, but ninjas aren't really the warrior kind so they could probably be wiped out if the samurai was in his right element.MetalMagpie said:They were mainly warlords. So they led armies. Which is also a problem for a ninja.Yopaz said:I might be wrong here, but samurai were warriors right? So there are armies of samurai.
A ninja would try to kill a samurai whilst he was asleep, or by poisoning his sake/rice and if he failed he'd run.
That's what ninjas did. They didn't train to fight, they trained to escape bad situations.
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incorrect.Yopaz said:Correct me if I'm wrong, not if I am quoted out of context.
The earlier post had no relevance to what I'd said, as what I said was a reply to one of your posts... and entire one.... irrespective of your earlier post that had been 'quoted out of context.'
Comprende senor?
See, I can be snarky too!
Sure, I used the word fight incorrectly in my post so you not understanding that is perfectly normal. I can get past that you pounce on me for that. However four posts of me saying in plain English that I did not mean there would be an actual fight should suffice. My first post was vague and poorly worded because I didn't think this discussion was important enough to do the effort of having the correct semantics.Abandon4093 said:You know what's ironic, you're claiming that I'm the one who's not understanding what you're saying whilst you're either ignoring what I've said or areYopaz said:You're right, my condescending attitude here does nothing. I have spent several posts here trying to say that when I used the word fight I didn't mean an actual fight. I have repeated that numerous times in my posts and you don't seem to understand. I really don't think I can be bothered to try to explain this anymore since you're either trolling, unwilling to understand or simply too dense to understand. I don't care which one it is. I just really don't see a reason to explain my posts to someone who wants to ounce on someone for being wrong while not seeing that he didn't understand the posts he was trying to correct.I'll post it again. Do us all a favour and read it before posting another pointless comment.Yopaz said:simply too dense to understand.
Pay close attention to the parts where I'm telling you that your original post was unclear. Nothing to do with me not understanding now, everything to do with your incompetence at getting your point across and how that incompetence weakens your footing when you try and act condescending, especially about people taking what you said the wrong way.
It's explained pretty clearly, although you might want to read it a few times... make sure it sinks in.
Abandon4093 said:Your condescending attitude does you no favours.Yopaz said:snip because *yawn*
You said
That isn't clear enough for you to snark at someone when they assume you're talking about a ninja and a samurai fighting.... It's right fucking there in plain English.I think this fight would depends solely on the conditions they were fighting in. One on one and a ninja would kill the samurai and he wouldn't know it
"I think this fight would depends solely on the conditions they were fighting in."
They were fighting in
THEY WERE FIGHTING IN
[HEADING=1]THEY WERE FIGHTING IN[/HEADING]
Saying he'd 'kill a Samurai and he wouldn't know it' is about as vague a qualifier as you could possibly have made it.
Do you mean he would assassinate him? Because that wouldn't be a fight, rendering the first part of your sentence contradictory. Do you mean he'd use trickery in a fight? Do you mean he'd poison him before a fight?
You can't make unclear statements and then get all pissy when someone doesn't read your exact intentions from them..... Especially after you'd said
[HEADING=1]THEY WERE FIGHTING[/HEADING]
One sentence before.
And as I saidThe whole comparison is retarded.Saying that X wins on X's terms and Y wins on Y's terms is just asinine. The whole who would win thing is just pointless. A ninja wouldn't fight a samurai so what's the point in asking who'd win? Ninjas assassinate, samurai's fight. You can't compare apples and oranges.
Also
You see this?As you can see, specifying the basics of how a forum works in every post takes a little extra time and I assume most people understand that this is done. However I think I might have to start doing so based on your posts because you prove that not even seasoned forum users can be expected to understand the basics or even something spoken as clearly as I know how.
That was a response to a single and whole comment that has contained within, all the context required for someone to make a reply.Abandon4093 said:They wouldn't be fighting.Yopaz said:Well in that case I stand by my idea that a ninja would win against a single samurai, but ninjas aren't really the warrior kind so they could probably be wiped out if the samurai was in his right element.MetalMagpie said:They were mainly warlords. So they led armies. Which is also a problem for a ninja.Yopaz said:I might be wrong here, but samurai were warriors right? So there are armies of samurai.
A ninja would try to kill a samurai whilst he was asleep, or by poisoning his sake/rice and if he failed he'd run.
That's what ninjas did. They didn't train to fight, they trained to escape bad situations.
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incorrect.Yopaz said:Correct me if I'm wrong, not if I am quoted out of context.
The earlier post had no relevance to what I'd said, as what I said was a reply to one of your posts... and entire one.... irrespective of your earlier post that had been 'quoted out of context.'
Comprende senor?
See, I can be snarky too!