Poll: Origin v Steam with battlelines drawn, where r u?

[pwned123456]

im going for steam. ill probably get physical copies of mass effect 3 and battlefield 3 if their not on steam

Battlefield 3 is not going to be on Steam, and even if you get a retail copy, you will still have to use Origin.

I'll use Steam, since I've used it for years and it works great. EA can try to compete, but they'll need to do better than a horribly-optimized copy of Steam. Plus the fact that they're trying to force you to use it just pisses me off.

Wait you have to use origin for bf3! Damn it!
i was hoping to avoid origin entirely.
ah well c'est la vie

or if you are desparate enough on console they cant make you install origin

 

[Von Strimmer]

I'm going with EA for one very simple reason (even though I am a console player) if they go down in flames budget gets pulled from all their subsidiary companied who make games I enjoy. I would buy far more from EA than Steam. It isn't about favourites it's who does supply and demand for what I want.

THIS STATEMENT WAS MY OPINION AND MY OPINION ALONE! DON'T HATE ME!

 

[Setupdown]

I hope when they launch Origin, EA has it's site DDOS'd to hell. Seriously. I'd love that.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Steam will crush Origin. Not really tied loyally to steam, it's just the obvious choice.

 

[Mute52]

Hmm let me see

I buy a bunch of games on both platforms
For some reason i'm unable to access the internet/computer/my account for 2 years.
I finally am able to log back on.

Which platform deleted my account and all the games i paid money for?

Yeah, there's a reason Steam's on top

 

[brainslurper]

That is extremely stupid, not putting BF3 on steam. Seriously. That is most of their profit on the PC gone.

 

[viranimus]

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LOLWHUT!?!? No they cannot because they wouldnt know and would have no justification for even trying to find out. No they cannot because if I wanted to buy up dozens of copies of a game, the publisher cannot use that to seize those games from me should I decide to save one to play the game and No, because once a disc is finalized you cannot write more data to the disc.

Ok first off your Capped ESPECIALLY needs to be modified to the phrase ONLY IF. Secondly.. your basing your statements on very specific instances that are at least not yet (thank god) all encompassing. Your also mistaking my words and implying Im referring things that Im not.

Next, its only in digital distribution and instances of unneeded DRM scams that you have this sort of contract your referring to and this is all the more reason why connecting games to internet connectivity has hurt everyone involved. In that respect the plug needs to be pulled.

You may choose to think its absurd to get up in arms over digital distribution, but Im actually not against digital distribution. I am against using digital distribution as a way to bypass the same laws that govern and protect lawful purchases and ownership rights. I think its absurd to watch people meander and wallow in complacency and NOT get up in arms about it because it creates a dangerous precedent that is already starting to undermine the development and growth of not only this industry but also the entire economic structure.

Do I think steam is particularly evil? Absolutely not. Do I think that Steam has and IS creating an extremely dangerous precedent that an extremely ignorant and shortsighted generation of consumers is proliferating, you better believe it.

So this makes the 3rd different way Ive said this, So Im beyond my point of redundancy. Ive said my peace and Ill repeat it once more. I hope the current leaders in Digital distribution destroy themselves so that a better form that offers the proper level of ownership rights can rise from its flawed ashes.

 

[brainslurper]

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2010/05/31/tank-catapult/
That. Somehow.

 

[Estelindis]

I don't even like or use Steam (I was miffed by not being able to get Civ 5 any other way), but even I prefer them to Origin. And I am a huge fan of Bioware, whose games are published by EA. If Origin can't even win over someone like me, I don't see them succeeding in the long term.

Ultimately, however, any publisher who still makes physical copies of games available regardless of digital distribution platform is fine with me.

 

[sheic99]

What makes you think you own any of your physical copies? The only thing different between digital and physical games is the disc. You own the piece of plastic and a license, it's ignorant to think otherwise.

If I were to modify my single player game with a disc could the publisher stop me? If I told the publisher to go fuck themselves and accused them of legitimized copywrite infringement and piracy could they stop me from using the purchased disc or invalidate the data on disc? Can the publisher prevent me from selling the item at my discretion? There is an astronomical world of difference between physical possession and digital licensing.

Apparently, [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.280441-GeoHot-Sounds-Off-on-Sonys-PSN-Debacle] they [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.269975-No-Dragon-Age-2-for-Suspended-BioWare-Forumite-UPDATED?page=1] can. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/98452-Ubisoft-Clarifies-New-Online-DRM-Scheme]

However I was not even discussing the merits of physical vs digital media. I was discussing the difference between a subscription license such as what one gets with Steam and a License of property such as one gets with say GoG or Gamers gate. The problem is ignorance abounds because people assume Steam is a benevolent benefactor and are completely oblivious to the fact that in their discretion steam can invalidate every purchase youve ever made through them and give you absolutely nothing in return because you have bought a subscription and individual licenses within that subscription, you OWN absolutely nothing. People buy into this without understanding exactly what they are doing or what can possibly happen. This is why this generation has made the old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted" so unbelievably relevant because people are perpetuating a system like this like it is a golden god, when its actually hurting the customer, and hurting the industry.

Steam is NOT the only one guilty of this. Origin is no better (and in fact they are worse because they proactively "retire" licenses) So I reassert, as far as I am concerned I hope both of them annihilate each other into oblivion because the gaming world would be better for it, even if its too thick to realize it or comprehend why.

All digital distribution has a Terms of Use when you sign up. If you violate those rules you lose all future access to the games you own.

 

[tthor]

Steam is already here, it's been here for a long time, and it's doing a damn good job. Origin is new, probably fewer games, and still has plenty of time to fuck with people during its young-age.

I already use and love Steam, so I sure as hell do not want to have to deal with another digital distributor; that would mean a second program on my taskbar, taking up more of my computer's precious processing power.

 

[Ryan Minns]

I'd go with Steam, Valve gambled and it eventually paid off, they've done so much good for the PC gaming community unlike any other developer these days so I dislike the idea of purchasing from a company who simply moves in once all the work has been done. Granted with Bioware becoming shooter/action focused I doubt I'd have bought an EA game regardless

 

[Legendsmith]

Steam will win, but it's a shame. There should be competition for it, otherwise it's a monopoly.

You're kidding, right?
Steam is NOT the only digital distribution platform out there.
Gamer's Gate, Direct2Drive, Good Old Games, Impulse are all there. They make enough money to keep going, so it's not like steam has anything approaching a monopoly, even without the competition from Origin.

 

[Sangnz]

I got C&C3 through Origin/EA store due to it not being on steam, it was only after I bought it that you only have a 1 year redownload allowance so if I loose the game installer due to a dive crash or format after a year my purchase is not available for me to redownload.

This more than anything else means I will NOT be buying shit off Origin, I will buy hardcopies of ToR, ME3 and BF3.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Steam has annoyed me by responding to my report ticket without even reading it, but still, EA is full of shit with Origin. After everything with Crysis 2 (a game I didn't care to get much anyway), I'm not getting any game that requires Origin, or Origin.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Steam will win, but it's a shame. There should be competition for it, otherwise it's a monopoly.

You're kidding, right?
Steam is NOT the only digital distribution platform out there.
Gamer's Gate, Direct2Drive, Good Old Games, Impulse are all there. They make enough money to keep going, so it's not like steam has anything approaching a monopoly, even without the competition from Origin.

Dunno about the others, but D2D and Steam are not the same. D2D give you a download that requires nothing to actually play the game, while Steam and Origin download it and are needed to launch it. Still, though, GFWL is pretty much the same as Steam and Origin.

 

[Arafiro]

Steam will crush Origin.

I just hope not too many games' sales are ruined by EA before they realise that a waste of time this is.

 

[Chris646]

I must join the Powdered Toast Men and face the onslaught of both Steam and Origin!

But in all seriousness, I'm more for Steam.

 

[TheDooD]

Steam loves their customers, Origin loves to rip off their customers and powdered toastman FTW.

 

[Monsterfurby]

Seriously, I really, REALLY don't care, no matter how much EA or Valve want me to. I am with the customers on this - if this causes EA and Valve to improve their service due to competition, that's great. If I get special offers due to competition - that is, too. I can have both installed and use them as I wish, compare prices and choose which one to buy from which is actually kind of neat. Again, competition is good.