Poll: Oxford Comma

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Seldon2639

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Just a curiosity, how many people here use the Oxford comma?

Basically, without it a list looks like this:

"red, white and blue"

With it, it looks like this:

"red, white, and blue".

Just a quick poll, so I'm not expecting anything by way of flames. Though, I've seen pretty impressive arguments start over less.

Edit: I added a third option, for people who don't believe there's a "rule" governing it. We're talking about the specific serial comma circumstance, though, so it's pretty diametric.
 

Horticulture

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Arguments typically advanced for use of the serial comma by default include:

1. that it better matches the spoken cadence of sentences;[10]
2. that it sometimes reduces ambiguity;[11]
3. that its use matches practice with other means of separating items in a list (example: when semicolons are used to separate items, a semicolon is consistently included before the last item, even when and or or is present).[12]

Arguments typically advanced for avoidance of the serial comma by default include:

1. that absence of the comma better matches the spoken cadence of sentences;
2. that use of the comma is against conventional practice;[13]
3. that use of the comma may introduce ambiguity (see examples below);
4. that the comma is redundant, since the and or the or serves by itself to mark the logical separation between the final two items.[14]


I love it when there's consensus on grammar...
 

bjj hero

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I was taught not to use a comma with "and" or "but". I still don't.

Red, white and blue.

You know it makes sense.
 

dwightsteel

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Seldon2639 said:
Just a curiosity, how many people here use the Oxford comma?

Basically, without it a list looks like this:

"red, white and blue"

With it, it looks like this:

"red, white, and blue".

Just a quick poll, so I'm not expecting anything by way of flames. Though, I've seen pretty impressive arguments start over less.
Dude. A post about Metaphysical Objectivism and now one about comma usage? Shit dude, you're gonna make my head explode. You're reminding me far too much of my old debate coach.
 

dwightsteel

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Oh, and I usually opt for the Oxford comma. But I tend to be really picky about my use of punctuation.
 

Seldon2639

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dwightsteel said:
Oh, and I usually opt for the Oxford comma. But I tend to be really picky about my use of punctuation.
Bwahahahahaha, it's all part of my devious plan. If I can just make your head explode, I get the next one free.
 

D_987

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Broloth said:
The Oxford Comma is necessary. Example:

And an interview with the Pope, a clown and a whore.

And an interview with the Pope, a clown, and a whore.

I believe I have proven my point.
Hats off to you.
 

S.H.A.R.P.

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I use it sometimes, though it is hardly a conscious effort, and is more my opinion on what I think looks pretty at the moment.
 

GloatingSwine

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Horticulture said:
I love it when there's consensus on grammar...
You do know that the grammatical rules of English were specifically designed to confuse and annoy foreigners, right?
 

Trilby

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There is no hard and fast rule stating "Always/never use the Oxford Comma". It depends on the circumstances. Can we have a third option for people who just write clearly and correctly?