Poll: Pacific Rim vs The Avengers

[Alcamonic]

I found The Avengers to be kinda average. All around meh, but nothing really bad.
Pacific Rim on the other hand... the parts in it that was good was really good. But the bad parts in it was really (really!) bad! I mean, "my nuclear reactor core robot is clearly analogue, fo sho General!", who came up with that crap?

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

While I really enjoyed Pacific Rim, I spent too much of the film asking, "Why'd they do that? Why didn't they just start out by doing X?" for my taste. Yes, suspension of disbelief is required for any movie like these, but Avengers had established its universe in all the previous Marvel films, so I didn't have so much second guessing going on. Also, the dialogue and action of Avengers is more consistent than Pacific Rim.

Win: Avengers.

 

[kasperbbs]

Pacific rim. It was something that i haven't really seen in a live action piece and it had some epic moments. As for avengers, yeah i liked it, but i have already seen a bunch of marvel movies which makes it feel like it's just more of the same and i was never a big fan of all that superhero comic thing to begin with.

 

[Laughing Man]

Avengers takes it by a mile, the movie has very little down time, by that I mean action or interaction between characters that isn't interesting and on top of that it is the culmination of a seriously risky movie to do something that had never been seen before. On top of that the action in the Avengers is better, more consistent and has far less WTF moments than Pacific Rims (i.e the sword that is a one hit kill but only gets used once they are a good 10 minutes in to the battle.)

Pacific Rim has some good action moments but the characters are utterly throw awayable, literally if ANY of them had died would I have cared, no, do I care if their is a sequel, no. It was an all right movie, nothing more. If it had spent less time building the will they pilot together and the reasons behind why the Marshall didn;t want his daughter to pilot a Jaeger and made the action a little more consistent rather than one short scene at the start, one long scene in the middle and then a short scene at the end I still doubt it would come close to beating The Avengers, put it this way Thor 2 was better than Pacific Rim, Iron Man 3 wasn't though.

Oh and The Avengers has this scene in it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7UuN1XZ1y4

which still gives me goosebumps with just how awesome it is.

 

[Luminous Chroma]

I saw Avengers twice in theaters and bought the Blu-Ray.

Pacific Rim bored me so much that I pulled out my cellphone and started reading Puella Magi Madoka Magica fanfiction through the climax.

Easiest poll I've had in a while.

Dude, seriously? Keep your stupid phone turned off while you're in a theater. The light bothers people, even if they don't have the nerve to say anything. If you're that bored, go into the lobby and hang out until the movie ends. Otherwise, please refrain from being so rude.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

This is a complicated decision. As a straight movie, Pacific Rim is my favorite (and which one I voted for). But, The Avengers means more to me, because of what it represents. The Avengers was something I'd been looking forward to for years, while Pacific Rim was something I've had plenty of, but never with this kind of quality, budget, or finesse. The Avengers was good, but relied on the movies that came before it, while Pacific Rim just relies on a simple idea, and both pull it off excellently. At least everyone in Pacific Rim actually feels like they belong, though, even if they're only there for about two minutes of screentime before squishy watery demise (spoilers!), while in the Avengers we have two effective characters, one giant green monster, and three exceptionally nimble but otherwise normal humans who are severely out of place trying to fight off an entire airborne alien invasion.

 

[pspman45]

when I first saw the trailer for Pacific Rim, it looked totally awful
When I saw the CGI Mechs and heard something about saving a city of two million people, I realized that I was being fed 80's-esque cheese with awesome visuals for a big robot monster throw down, I had my tickets for the release weekend
I saw it, then saw it again the next day
I'm honestly upset that a lot of people I knew didn't seem to like it, Its easily my favorite movie I've seen this year
The Avengers was still pretty good, but I felt like the whole "buddy team up" thing was a little weak since Tony Stark did like everything plot-wise, and Captain America and Thor didn't do much while Hulk smashed everything in sight

 

[TakerFoxx]

Dude, seriously? Keep your stupid phone turned off while you're in a theater. The light bothers people, even if they don't have the nerve to say anything. If you're that bored, go into the lobby and hang out until the movie ends. Otherwise, please refrain from being so rude.

=sigh=

Okay, time to copy/paste my reply from when someone already said the same thing. Come on man, it was only a few posts down.

"The theater was nearly empty, I was shielding the light with my very heavy jacket, there was no one on either side of me, and a great big wall behind me. If there was a chance of someone seeing me, of course I wouldn't have. But the only way someone could have seen the light was if they were going out of their way to look over my shoulder."

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

Not even a contest for me. The Avengers was a 2,5-hour nerdgasm from beginning to end with great and fun characters and villain, while Pacific Rim was merely dumb fun.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

That's actually really hard. I don't have a particularly high opinion of either and also a very good opinion of both in different ways. The Avengers' main good thing for me is the dialogue between superheroes working together for the first time and having to reconcile their differences, and there were some epic moments and good one-liners. Pacific Rim's main good thing is completely the opposite, the dialogue was some of the least inspired shit I've ever heard, and the characters are similar, but the action was top notch. Both had forgettable uninteresting plots (generic bad guy's bringing his army gotta close the portal vs generic colonist alien race are sending their beasts gotta close the portal). Pacific Rim pulls ahead with music, Australians and mecha.

 

[00slash00]

Never saw Pacific Rim (I kept trying to get my friend to see it with me but he wasn't feeling it). I just saw Avengers a few weeks ago and I was disappointed. It wasn't bad but it was the same situation as Bioshock Infinite, The Last of Us, and KotOR. Massively over hyped. I expected to be completely blown away, after the way people talked about it. I thought it was good, but no better than any of the super hero movies that lead up to it

 

[Tono Makt]

Pacific Rim, hands down. I could go into detail why, but I'm not up to debating with the unholy alliance of Browncoats and Marvel Fanboys who tend to take any criticism of the Avengers as simply trolling them. Boils down to The Avengers taking me entirely out of the movie in the first scene so I spent the entire rest of the movie noting all of the flaws and Pacific Rim not coming close to doing that until they tried to insert the idea of the Kaiju being Dinosaurs. And since the Dinosaurs thing was a single line and the Avengers had the entire opening scene, it was far easier to ignore that one line while in the theatre than it was to ignore the entire first scene in The Avengers.

 

[deathbydeath]

The Avengers was simply better, even if it was rather safe and predictable (fusing movie franchises together like that is relatively new for movies but not risky at all). The biggest problem with Pacific Rim was that it was too big for its own good. If they had added an extra hour/hour and a half to the running time the film could stretch its legs and not rush everything. The fact that most moviegoing audiences can't handle any film longer than two hours really irritates me and can't be good for the industry if PR is any indicator. Most everyone I know won't deny that The Hobbit was about as perfect as films get, but wont go and see the second because it'll probably be an hour longer than most movies.

Also people give RDJ waay too much credit. He's good at what he does, although what he does is one very specific type of acting and he does it way. The reliance on his acting has made conceptually good scenes fail in execution because I've already seen it before.

EDIT: Oh, Avengers also fucked up Hawkeye bad. Boo.

 

[neoontime]

I never saw the avengers but Pacific Rim was one of the most disappointing movies I ever seen. Not only was I disappointed by the crappy character development, the action scenes were all too short and forgettable, like the characters, and then there's that thing about the sword. Maybe it was something with the time frame but still, I expected at least really good action or and awesome story.

Either way,since I haven't seen avengers I can't say which is better, but I would guess even if it had less big-budget action, it would somehow be better put together.

 

[Yuuki]

This is like ice cream vs chicken, which is better. Both do different things for me, and they do it very well.

Overall I'm not surprised Avengers has more votes, it had like 3 decent movies leading up to it and far bigger budget and scope (having 5 superheroes).

 

[tzimize]

The big geek movie of 2012 was The Avengers. Pacific Rim was big geek movie of 2013.

So there is a question for you guys:
Which one of these contenders do you think was (is) better?


I personally think that both movies were great in their own way:

The Avengers is the end result of the riskiest move of modern movie industry: creation of a few at first glance unrelated movies (for people that don't read comics, at least), that are linked together in the "final" one.

Pacific Rim is a brand new IP (which is another risky move in modern Holywood), which was the very first Mecha/Kaiju movie from west since Robot Jox and this USA Godzilla movie that is quite bad. It was basically a huge love letter to people who simply like such flicks. It also one of the few movies (if not the only one) where gigantic robots fealt, well, real: huge, hulking monstrosities, slow yet powerful, with minimum of decorative features, unlike those shown in most anime and western cartoons. Plus, freaking Cherno Alpha!

Yet in the end, for me, The Avengers is the winner in this debate simply because they had lesser ammount of OBVIOUS mess-ups: killing 2 most interesting Jaegers after 5 minutes battle just to show how powerful Kaijus are, this brain-link, which was IMHO made just to give reason to showing this great scene from Makos memories, and many others.

But both of those movies are still amazing.

Pacific Rim was AWFUL.

While the robot fighting was awesome (how could it not be) but the characters and story was just....terrible. Its been a long time since I've watched a movie and actually cringed at the acting/lines...Pacific Rim made me do that. I seriously had to avert my eyes and be embarrassed in the movie theater. Also, the fighting scene between the guy and gal was a disgrace.

Avengers was a clean 10 from the getgo. Great acting, fantastic lines and spectacular fighting. The two movies arent even a little bit close quality-wise.

 

[skywolfblue]

I liked Avengers a bit more, not 10/10 my favorite movie ever, but I did enjoy it a lot. Aside from the awesome, but totally impossible in real life helicarrier, most of the rest of it more or less made a certain kind of sense within the powers they were given. The characters were great, there's a number of lines and interactions between the characters that are really enjoyable.

For Pacific Rim I liked the nerd characters, but that's about it.

If you're going to make giant robots, make them look like beastly death machines, don't just make a standard human frame with fists. (AKA, make it something more like the walkers in Star-Wars or District 9, or Mech Warrior) I'm biased against human frame robots. I didn't like most of the bots in transformers either.

Use the damn sword from the beginning! Mechs doing wrestling is just weird to me. If they'd actually made more use of giant swords and agile robots that could put on some entertaining swordplay that would have been a lot better. As it is only the last two fights feature it in any great detail and I didn't think it was that impressive of a battle.

A nuclear powered robot is still electrical.
Why does every fight scene seem to take place in the ocean, yet somehow the bots are only knee deep in water?
Why do they "train" with staff weapons, when the robots don't even use staff weapons. You know, if one of the robots actually had been using a staff weapon then it would have been a lot cooler.
...And a myriad of other things like that that add up to a "this is nonsensical, and it would have been more awesome if they had spent the time to make it a bit more logical" conclusion in my book.

The main characters are bland. The characters in Avengers have a lot of flavor, the characters in Pacific Rim, not so much. Except for the nerds, they were awesome, but they weren't the main focus of the show and didn't get all that much screen time.

I suppose it's just weird to me because I haven't watched many Kaiju / Humanoid Robot shows. I've never had a deep affection for that stuff.

 

[Story]

The Avengers.

I'm actually surprised Pacific Rim is even being mentioned to be honest. It was a pretty mediocre movie, they both were in a way, but at least The Avengers was memorable.

 

[Crispee]

The Avengers, no contest. The Avengers had good characters, character interactions, character development, good action scenes, and good understanding of the source material.

Pacific Rim had none of that. The actions scenes were repeatedly obscured by neon blurs, random water splashes, and the fact that they didn't stand out against the dark backgrounds. The characters were completely forgettable, I couldn't begin to remember any of their names or motivations. And even though the climaxes both involved a character going through a portal and killing all the aliens, in The Avengers I understood what the sacrifice meant to the character and wanted him to live, in Pacific Rim I don't remember why the character had to go on a suicide mission nor did I care if they survived.

Sorry Pacific Rim, Avengers just seems far superior. The Avengers may be silly but it's meticulously crafted to be the precise degree of silly, Pacific Rim's silly feels like it was the first thing the writers came up with after skimming through the contents page of "Mecha Anime for Dummies".

But hey, whatever floats your boat, I'm sure there are plenty of legit reasons why one might feel differently to me.

 

[thejboy88]

I'm voting for PR. not to say that Avengers wasn't good, because it was great. But I like PR a little better because it managed to be just as entertaining and exciting without requiring several films worth of build-up behind it.