Poll: PC gamer getting a console...OH NOES!

[Judgement101]

PS3 is about the same price as the 360 last time I checked. Some 360 exclusives are ported to the PC anyway, so I'd recommend the PS3 if anything.

Actually you can get an old xbox for hald the price of a PS3.

OT: Having basically every console from the past 2 gens, I have to say PS3 has excellent games but the shoulder buttons are just.......terrible. I recommend a PS3 or a PS2. (PS2 only if you manage to find: Silent Hill 2, Persona 3 and 4, Shadow of the Colosus, and Persona 3 FES) (YES there is a difference between 3 and 3 FES)

 

[mysecondlife]

if you and your gf are having fun with PS2, just save your money. It's the best console of last decade.

but if you're compelled to buy current gen console, I recommend Ps3.

Despite the whole lawsuit mess, 2011 is the year for Ps3 considering exclusives and PSN-Steam integration.

 

[Mxrz]

Don't buy a used console. Just don't. It is almost impossible that they are not refurbs, and will die again before long. Both the PS3 and 360slim are $299. Most PS3s have 160-320gb HDs now, and can take any standard 2.5. This is a pretty serious advantage over the 360s that only take MS ones which, last I looked, cost around $90 for a 20GB.

Anyway, PS3 has better exclusives, free PSN, and an insane number of games coming this year too. Not to hate on the Xbox, but it really does seem like MS has switched gears to the Kinect. Demon Souls, Uncharted, Heavy Rain, Infamous, LBP, GT5, MGS4, etc. are some of the best games released in the last 7-8 years, and should be experienced. . . .especially if you're really into pulling the whole "PC Master race!" bullshit. At least know what your dismissing, etc.

 

[Choppaduel]

>OP is PC gamer
>OP finds PS3 to expensive

*squak*
PC gaming is moar expensive hurr durr.
*sqwaaaaaaaaaak*


quit parroting ignorant rhetoric & do some research.

The difference in cost of a near top of line PC and a console is made up by a drop in price of games from digital distribution (ala steam & they're massive sales) over time.

and then theres PCs with comparable computing power to consoles which are laughable, but very cheap.

Also if you are the kind of person willing to break the rules, PC games can be free.

and if not there are things like the humble inde bundle: http://www.humblebundle.com/
where you choose the price, and it goes to charity.

 

[Silas13013]

[pc cost rant]
To everyone saying that PC gaming is to expencive, congrats on doing it wrong I guess? Seriously, how did someone spend 2000$ on a PC and trash it three years later? There is no possible way it was "cutting edge" if you already trashed it. Honestlly, I have a PC from 2000 that still runs most games and all it needed was a $50 video card... three years ago. No it can't run crysis at max but it will still run CoD and L4d and everything else fun.
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With that little explosion out of the way, I would say ps2. That's the only Sony system I've ever liked and I've owned all three. PS3 is a big blu-ray plaer though so if you don't mind the lackluster games (no I didn't like Uncharted so shoot me) then at least you have that.

But really, you have the PC for yourself and the largest, most indepth and some of the best games ever made already on the ps2 so it's really up to you.

Yeah, but I can go out and get Crysis 2 for my 360 and it will run no questions asked. PC, good luck.

Some main points of contention with the PC.

1. Constant upgrading. It does get expensive. You can buy a 360 and a ton of games for what you would spend on a good gaming PC. Hell a seven hundred dollar PC is still more expensive.

2. Tech savvy required. Consoles win on the ease-of-use front every time. PC people might think this makes them elitist, but whatever.

3. The graphics gap is getting smaller. I had a friend who lauded Assassin's Creed 1 on his PC over the console version. Sure it looked a little smoother, but when it was said and done it was not worth the thousands and thousands of dollars he sank into that monster.

4. Ownership. You do not own a PC game, you own a console game. It's impossible to sell a PC game back or trade it in (in most places), but consoles. I own that disk. It's mine. I can do whatever I want with it.

Some points of small contention.

1. Movement. Sure a mouse is more accurate, but hell, it hardly matters that much to the average gamer. Maybe in the N64 days.

2. No rumble, WTF. Sure you can get a USB controller, but that kills having the keyboard and rodent.

Except you obviouly didn't. NO ONE can say they "did their research" and then three years later, have it crap out on them. If you can say it with a straight face, you were ripped off, scamed, cheated, whatever you want to call it. I have one of the best gaming PC's in addition to all my old ones, (3.9ghz processor, 8gm RAM, 2.5 TB hard drives, dx11 graphics card ect) and it STILL didn't cost me over 900$.

And what's this rubbish about "not owning a PC game?" I have disks for 99% of my games. How is that "not owning it"? Yes there is a code for it but an uninstall will make the game valid again. I've sold many of my PC games with no problems.

Ease of use is rubbish as well. Are you telling me you can't turn on a computer and pop in a disk? Or are you talking about putting one together? Any 5 year old child can put a computer together, I've seen it done. There is only one way for the parts to go together. If you are the type of person who puts the squeeky hammer in the square hole, that's fine, but using that as evidence to say putting a square block in a square hole is not a good idea, espically when people will listen to you.

I'm still not sure where you are getting "thousands and thousands" of dollars from, but again, you don't have to spend the money to make a pc look better than a console. My friend's old pc can run AC-Bro on high and it cost him as much as a 360 does now, and it has no sign of needing an upgrade anytime soon.

But I think you hit big on the aiming bit about it not mattering to an average gamer. An average gamer looks at a $2000 gaming pc and decides that pc gaming is expencive. Someone who actually decides to get into gaming will be able to use a severa year old PC and keep up with the best of them.

But in the end, stick with what you got. The pc and ps2 will both last you for years to come.

 

[icyneesan]

>OP is PC gamer
>OP finds PS3 to expensive

*squak*
PC gaming is moar expensive hurr durr.
*sqwaaaaaaaaaak*


quit parroting ignorant rhetoric & do some research.

The difference in cost of a near top of line PC and a console is made up by a drop in price of games from digital distribution (ala steam & they're massive sales) over time.

and then theres PCs with comparable computing power to consoles which are laughable, but very cheap.

Also if you are the kind of person willing to break the rules, PC games can be free.

and if not there are things like the humble inde bundle: http://www.humblebundle.com/
where you choose the price, and it goes to charity.

You totally misunderstood what i meant. I meant that the PS3 is equal to the price of a good rig and that the OP is odd for thinking that a PS3 is to expensive when s/he is a PC gamer.

 

[TheBaron87]

[pc cost rant]
To everyone saying that PC gaming is to expencive, congrats on doing it wrong I guess? Seriously, how did someone spend 2000$ on a PC and trash it three years later? There is no possible way it was "cutting edge" if you already trashed it. Honestlly, I have a PC from 2000 that still runs most games and all it needed was a $50 video card... three years ago. No it can't run crysis at max but it will still run CoD and L4d and everything else fun.
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[pc cost rant]
To everyone saying that PC gaming is to expencive, congrats on doing it wrong I guess? Seriously, how did someone spend 2000$ on a PC and trash it three years later? There is no possible way it was "cutting edge" if you already trashed it. Honestlly, I have a PC from 2000 that still runs most games and all it needed was a $50 video card... three years ago. No it can't run crysis at max but it will still run CoD and L4d and everything else fun.
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With that little explosion out of the way, I would say ps2. That's the only Sony system I've ever liked and I've owned all three. PS3 is a big blu-ray plaer though so if you don't mind the lackluster games (no I didn't like Uncharted so shoot me) then at least you have that.

But really, you have the PC for yourself and the largest, most indepth and some of the best games ever made already on the ps2 so it's really up to you.

Yeah, but I can go out and get Crysis 2 for my 360 and it will run no questions asked. PC, good luck.

Some main points of contention with the PC.

1. Constant upgrading. It does get expensive. You can buy a 360 and a ton of games for what you would spend on a good gaming PC. Hell a seven hundred dollar PC is still more expensive.

2. Tech savvy required. Consoles win on the ease-of-use front every time. PC people might think this makes them elitist, but whatever.

3. The graphics gap is getting smaller. I had a friend who lauded Assassin's Creed 1 on his PC over the console version. Sure it looked a little smoother, but when it was said and done it was not worth the thousands and thousands of dollars he sank into that monster.

4. Ownership. You do not own a PC game, you own a console game. It's impossible to sell a PC game back or trade it in (in most places), but consoles. I own that disk. It's mine. I can do whatever I want with it.

Some points of small contention.

1. Movement. Sure a mouse is more accurate, but hell, it hardly matters that much to the average gamer. Maybe in the N64 days.

2. No rumble, WTF. Sure you can get a USB controller, but that kills having the keyboard and rodent.

You forgot the biggest advantage of PC gaming: freedom. We get to choose how we want to communicate with friends. We get community-made content like mod. Our games support addons and UI customization. We can use a USB controller if we desire and have far more designs to pick from. Most of our DLC is free. We also get the games that couldn't be done on console, while the only reason we don't get console games is fear of the big bad pirates. Really, the only reason Microsoft even got into the console business is because they realized they had given away too much freedom with their OS that they couldn't take back, and saw how much they could profit from a single mass-produced gaming device where all content is filtered by them and they get a cut of everything. Consoles are basically just pre-built PCs marketed to gamers with the difference that all software on them must be licensed. You may save money on your mass-produced hardware and time (all 2 hours of it) on learning to put it together and maintain it (lol 30% failure rate), but you're paying huge premiums for convenience and sometimes just the privilege of ignorance. In the long run, think how much you save in replay value when you get a PC game that you can play for months and not get tired of, free DLC, user content, and most importantly, not having to pay for LIVE on top of your ISP's bill.

Anyway, on topic: here are 100 great indie games for PC I bet you haven't tried, and nearly every one of them is free http://caltrops.com/article0031_01.php

You totally misunderstood what i meant. I meant that the PS3 is equal to the price of a good rig and that the OP is odd for thinking that a PS3 is to expensive when s/he is a PC gamer.

You're talking purely numbers though. Yeah, PS3 launched at $599, and a good PC costs about $599, but you have completely ignored what you're actually GETTING for those numbers. Your bank account is deducted the same amount but what VALUE are you getting for that price? In those terms, the PC is the much, much better deal.

 

[Choppaduel]

[pc cost rant]
To everyone saying that PC gaming is to expencive, congrats on doing it wrong I guess? Seriously, how did someone spend 2000$ on a PC and trash it three years later? There is no possible way it was "cutting edge" if you already trashed it. Honestlly, I have a PC from 2000 that still runs most games and all it needed was a $50 video card... three years ago. No it can't run crysis at max but it will still run CoD and L4d and everything else fun.
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With that little explosion out of the way, I would say ps2. That's the only Sony system I've ever liked and I've owned all three. PS3 is a big blu-ray plaer though so if you don't mind the lackluster games (no I didn't like Uncharted so shoot me) then at least you have that.

But really, you have the PC for yourself and the largest, most indepth and some of the best games ever made already on the ps2 so it's really up to you.

Yeah, but I can go out and get Crysis 2 for my 360 and it will run no questions asked. PC, good luck.

Some main points of contention with the PC.

1. Constant upgrading. It does get expensive. You can buy a 360 and a ton of games for what you would spend on a good gaming PC. Hell a seven hundred dollar PC is still more expensive.

2. Tech savvy required. Consoles win on the ease-of-use front every time. PC people might think this makes them elitist, but whatever.

3. The graphics gap is getting smaller. I had a friend who lauded Assassin's Creed 1 on his PC over the console version. Sure it looked a little smoother, but when it was said and done it was not worth the thousands and thousands of dollars he sank into that monster.

4. Ownership. You do not own a PC game, you own a console game. It's impossible to sell a PC game back or trade it in (in most places), but consoles. I own that disk. It's mine. I can do whatever I want with it.

Some points of small contention.

1. Movement. Sure a mouse is more accurate, but hell, it hardly matters that much to the average gamer. Maybe in the N64 days.

2. No rumble, WTF. Sure you can get a USB controller, but that kills having the keyboard and rodent.

1. upgrading. Constant in not accurate. In the 4 years I've owned my PC, I've only replaced the graphics card. hd 5850. It runs games at max settings, very smoothly.

2. tech "savvy." computers are a part of your life, not learning about them is being willfully ignorant of something that has a MASSIVE impact on your life, which is despicable.

3. ass cree. outdated game. In order to prove this point you'd need to use a game that was designed for PC, not ported, and one thats more recent by a few years.

4. ownership. I'm not familiar with the law in this area, but apparently you don't "own" a PS3 either if you aren't allowed to jailbreak it (the geohot thing) Besides, you can make/aquire copies of PC games easily, if your hard for a physical copy. About resale... In December I was looking to buy Fallout: New Vegas, in store it was $70 + tax, (defiance, OH, if ur rly interested in how much tax there is) and on Steam it was $25 flat. So I don't need to resell my copy of FL:NV to get a better deal than anyone who bought the console version.

The small stuff you mentioned is entirely subjective. I don't like rumble. I do like a gamepad for games like Saints Row 2, a mix of TPS + driving. The rest of the time I prefer mouse + keyboard.

 

[Choppaduel]

>OP is PC gamer
>OP finds PS3 to expensive

*squak*
PC gaming is moar expensive hurr durr.
*sqwaaaaaaaaaak*


quit parroting ignorant rhetoric & do some research.

The difference in cost of a near top of line PC and a console is made up by a drop in price of games from digital distribution (ala steam & they're massive sales) over time.

and then theres PCs with comparable computing power to consoles which are laughable, but very cheap.

Also if you are the kind of person willing to break the rules, PC games can be free.

and if not there are things like the humble inde bundle: http://www.humblebundle.com/
where you choose the price, and it goes to charity.

You totally misunderstood what i meant. I meant that the PS3 is equal to the price of a good rig and that the OP is odd for thinking that a PS3 is to expensive when s/he is a PC gamer.

oh, my mistake. You do see why I reacted that way though right?

 

[Atmos Duality]

The Wii is essentially a dead system at this point.
It has a whopping ONE GAME that has any real hope. Everything else is either an obscure gem or shovelware.

 

[icyneesan]

>OP is PC gamer
>OP finds PS3 to expensive

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*squak*
PC gaming is moar expensive hurr durr.
*sqwaaaaaaaaaak*


quit parroting ignorant rhetoric & do some research.

The difference in cost of a near top of line PC and a console is made up by a drop in price of games from digital distribution (ala steam & they're massive sales) over time.

and then theres PCs with comparable computing power to consoles which are laughable, but very cheap.

Also if you are the kind of person willing to break the rules, PC games can be free.

and if not there are things like the humble inde bundle: http://www.humblebundle.com/
where you choose the price, and it goes to charity.

You totally misunderstood what i meant. I meant that the PS3 is equal to the price of a good rig and that the OP is odd for thinking that a PS3 is to expensive when s/he is a PC gamer.

oh, my mistake. You do see why I reacted that way though right?

No problem, it happens a lot

 

[Mallefunction]

You know the really perverse thing about this? I say, "Eff the PC I can get that for my 360. In fact, I don't have a PS3 because I don't really care for JRPGs anymore, and I can get most of the games for 360. Seriously, I looked at there top 10 exclusives and would only play four at best.

Also, Kingente power is what the forum had me type in to post this. It's cool I'm stealing it.

The PS3 has much more than JRPGS. I have none in my collection whatsoever because I personally despise them.

 

[Venereus]

Gather 'round my fellow PC gamers.

As you all know, we are a dying breed, so it's a sad day indeed when we lose yet another one of us to the uncaring claws of mass produced outdated technology. A moment of silence for the lost. May they find a better life among the Start, and the other buttons.

The melodrama. It burns so good.

i dont think hes seriours

Thank you! I was getting worried when so many people quoted me thinking I was serious. May be I could've worded it better, [sarcasm] or may be is just that the thread's title atracts console gamers, and we all know they're not too bright...[/sarcasm]

(Also not serious about that last part. Better make sure this time 'cuz if I was serious I'd deserve a ban)

 

[Stryc9]

Yea, getting a little tired of that argument so please stop.

PC gaming is only expensive to those that have to be on the bleeding edge of technology. You can build a PC that will keep you gaming for at least 10 years without having to upgrade very much and it will only cost you around $700, $1000 at the most.

As for the console choices out there, I'd go for a PS3, they're about the same as a 360 now and it seems to me there's a wider choice of games out there for it, plus it's a Blu-Ray player on top of that.

I'm going ahead and calling this. I had a top-of-the-line PC built in 2006 for $2,000 dollars American. It lasted me all of three years and then it needed a three hundred dollar upgrade. It still can't run The Witcher. That's less than four years, not even half your decade theory.

Why? Browns mother-effing Law and all its variations. PCs grow at an exponential rate. I abandoned the PC. I think it's a sinking ship, whether or not you agree I don't care. I know I can get a brand-new PS3 for the cost of my upgrade alone.

So a you bought in at a point when technology was going through one of the generational growth spurts. That happens, it happened to me the first time I built my own PC and I needed a serious upgrade about two years later. Once I got my upgrades out of the way I've been good up until recently and that was about 10 years ago.

It also sounds like whoever you had build your computer didn't really have much of a clue as to what they were doing. Finding a decent combination of parts isn't that hard as long as you stay away from the cheapest stuff out there.

PC technology doesn't evolve as fast as some would have you believe with the "it's obsolete before you open the box", bullshit that far too many people spout off about. As long as what you've got fits your needs at the time then it's not obsolete.

To be fair, $700 is still more than a PS3.

But you can also do far more than just play videogames and watch movies with that $700 PC. A PC is a far more versatile platform than a gaming console depending on what your interests are. You may also develop some new interests in doing other things if you want to spend the time to learn something new.

 

[LetalisK]

Just to clarify the PS3 being too expensive while being a PC gamer thing: My PC is obviously more expensive than a PS3, but I also built my PC when I had much more disposable income. Now I do not have as much and I have to be smarter about what I do with each buck. I suppose this is what I meant.

 

[Zantos]

I got a 360 to go alongside PC gaming and it's a combination that works a treat. That said there's nothing wrong with the PS2, it has a massive collection of games that are easy to get hold of for cheap and is generally fun.

If you are going to get a 360 then don't get the 4gb one, between patches, downloadables and saves the HDD will be full before you know it. You can pick up refurbished ones for practically nothing and it probably won't red ring (they pretty much ironed that out after the first batch, i hear more now about PS3s yellow lighting). If it does it'll only be the 2 light for the xbox signalling that you and it both need sleep.

 

[ImprovizoR]

You have the 2 best gaming systems ever created, PC and PS2. If you really want to get a console then get a PS3 because PS3 exclusives are a lot better in my opinion (god of war, metal gear solid, uncharted, etc.) I have a 360 (and 4 games on it). It's nothing special. Most games worth playing on 360 end up on PC sooner or later.

 

[Shoqiyqa]

I'm a PC gamer who plays on other people's consoles, and someone else who joined us liked Rock Band 2 & 3 enough to get a console and the game and all the instruments.

The price difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS3 was, once the big hard drive and all the instruments and the game and a hundred DLC tracks and so on are added in, pretty tiny.

Whether Sony or Microsoft is more EVIL is something we'll have to leave to a later debate ... or at least another thread.

The Playstation plays Blu_Ray DVDs whereas the Xbox only plays the normal kind. Big deal? Hardly.

We went with the PS3.

Turns out Rock Band 3 is NOT the same game on the PS3 as on the Xbox. The Xbox version is WAY better.

The PS3 version lets you create a set of avatars and lets your friends choose them or the default ones and lets you decide whether or not to record your friends' scores on your login, and also lets you say what you think of a song, which influences how likely it is to come up in random setlists.

The Xbox version lets four of you log in at once, lets you create a set of avatars each and choose one of your own to play, records all your scores on your own accounts and also lets you each say what you thought of that song in that role so whether a song you love on bass but hate on vocals is likely to come up will depend on whether you're on bass or vocals.

I haven't played much with the Xbox online, but in setting up the PS3 online for song shopping, I decided I really didn't much like the way it did it.

Overall, I'd say you probably shouldn't bother with the PS3 unless free online play is a HUGE deal-maker/-breaker for you. If you're being competitive in a small group on a shared console, the Xbox's ability to log you both in at once and record your scores separately may be considered A Good Thing.

That said, if you get either, get a USB keyboard too because *ugh*

 

[Doc Cannon]

I'd get a ps3 simply because ModNation racers (and other great fighting, racing, and assorted multiplayer games -and MGS4-)

Marvel Vs Capcom 3! Scott Pilgrim! LittleBigPlanet!
I don't know how much the console costs, but if it costs anywhere near the 360 I'd go for it.


Also, on the subject of the cost of gaming,etc: pc games are usually cheaper, on the long run you end up spending less IMO (I should know, I'm cheap bastard). My friend who has a PS3 has a lot less games than me and has spent more money (my steam account has around 100 games, and he has less than 25).

 

[Sanglyon]

I'm mostly a PC gamer, but I got a PS3 too because:
- It was 30% off (yay)
- It plays bluray
- I wanted to be sure to play the sequels to the ps2 exclusives I loved
- there aren't any games on the xbox that I would play that weren't ported to PC or PS3, while there are a lot of stuff that is either PS3 or console exclusive.
- free psn account

If the choice is between XBox and wii, take an xbox. Kinect added to the xbox all the gimmick that made the Wii interesting, and the poor old thing doesn't have much else to compete.