Poll: Poll: Star Wars Episode VII

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Morsomk_v1legacy

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Ehh...I dont actually care considering that I am not a massive fan of the series. I mean, I've still seen the bloody things and I do keep up with things. But considering the fact that there are other series that I enjoy even more then Star Wars, it wont actually bother me if they are better or worse then the prequels were. Sure I would like them to be a better.
I mean, everybody has different opinions and such, but at the end of the day, most people want to see good movies. And if the next trilogy turns out as good as people think they will, then sure, I will watch them.
 

Weaver

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They're going to be formulaic, flashy and probably "slightly above average" if we can take anything away from JJ Abrams work. He's a competent director, but his work is largely risk free and inoffensive. I don't think we're going to get a series of great movies, but I think we'll get a series of "alright" to "pretty good" movies.
 

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Keiichi Morisato said:
I'll be happy as long as there is a reference to Final Fantasy VII somewhere in the movie.
Your post had me thinking:

"Why would there be a reference to Final Fantasy VII?

...

OOOH! I get it. God I'm dumb. *facepalm* "

OT: Personally I kinda liked the prequels. Well, mainly ep. 3 anyway. So here's hoping this movie turns out at least semi-decent.
 

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disney did a great job with avengers, so i now have faith, lucas will not be in charge, so thats a great step. The only problem I can forsee is if they rely on the old characters too much (luke, leia, and han simply CANT be the main characters) i mean, RED was an awesome movie, but i dont think anyone wants a star wars meets red. dont get me wrong they can play a part, even a major part, but if they are the starring characters with thier original actors it will be bad.
 

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in a perfect world, the prequels should serve as a blueprint of how NOT to do further sequels.

So there's that-
 

Casual Shinji

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Pinkamena said:
I actually liked episode 3, and how they portrayed Anakins fall to the dark side. Anyone else agree?
The problem is that Anakin was already an asshole from the start of Attack of the Clones. The problem with the prequels on whole is that they seem to have been made based on the fans' popular opinion of the original trilogy; We as the audience know Anakin is going to become Darth Vader, so Anakin is basically already Darth Vader in the prequels except younger and inexperienced.

They should've made Anakin a young Jedi a la Luke Skywalker, who's friendly and genuinely wants to do good. This would've made a nice thematic bridge to the originals (like father like son, and how Anakin fell to darkness while Luke defeated it), and it would've made his fall from grace actually have an impact. This could've then also worked as an alternate version of the original trilogy, where we follow the similar sort of protagonist, but instead of winning he loses.
j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
I loathe JJ Abrams. I hate what he did to the Star Trek franchise, I hate his whole style of film-making, and think at best he's simply a third-rate knock off of Spielberg. Why couldn't they just get Spielberg to direct the film? He's still going, knows how to do a large scale blockbuster, loves the Star Wars films, and when he's coupled with a good script can still make fantastic films. If not Spielberg, then why not someone like Joss Whedon, David Fincher, Robert Zemeckis... anyone but Jar Jar Abrams.
Joss Whedon really isn't that good of a director, Fincher I think would feel a bit too cold for a vibrant a universe such as Star Wars, but I would definately be on board with Robert Zemeckis. But then he's probably still too busy wasting his talent on terrible CGI movies.
 

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the original films only captured the actor's presence and all the new cgi just makes it generic fantasy
it had a niche, and then totally abandoned it.

it comes back to what people say about the whole 'han shot first' stupidity..
it was the characters that made people invest in the franchise, the first few films followed movie making scripture the last ones.. well flashy hairstyles pomp and over-budgeting to the point of everything being a massive gamble forcing them to appeal to a wide audience ruined them badly.

the damn ewoks had more presence than any of the new characters, can you even name them, or remember them? i struggle to.
the new emporer just didn't capture evil and came off as a slightly mentally disturbed old hermit ( direction, acting /out the window )

so, in conclusion if Disney can't do something better i'll eat my copies of the prequels.
 

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TheCaptain said:
The new movies will just disrespect all the very good stuff that happened since Return of the Jedi in the franchise...
What?

How has anything happened since Return?

Isn't that chronologically the last movie?
 

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It's entirely possible to be worse than the prequels. It's also very possible they will be better than the prequels. I have no idea how they'll stand up.
 

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Zhukov said:
TheCaptain said:
The new movies will just disrespect all the very good stuff that happened since Return of the Jedi in the franchise...
What?

How has anything happened since Return?

Isn't that chronologically the last movie?
He's probably referring to the expanded universe.

OT: I think it could go either way. I'm not feeling all that confident that they'll be very good, but I'm willing to give them a chance at least. I want them to be good films.

I think they'll be competent, at least.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
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The problem for me is that it never feels tragic. I never get a sense for his character, because all his character does is be jealous, whiney, and throwing tantrums. You never get to know who Anakin is as a person, only as an irritant.

That scene with his mother and the sand people would've had an impact if Anakin didn't already reveal himself to be a rather unstable and bratty individual. You would assume being trained in the Jedi arts means gaining a balance with one's self, but it seems Obi Wan only trained Anakin in the art of lightsaber, what with what he tells him at the club entrance and all.

As for it not being believable if he was too nice... Even with Anakin being a lunatic in RotS, his transition from evil Anakin to evil Vader actually felt very forced itself. Or should I say, it felt like he had no say in it, like he was just following the instructions of whoever was talking at the moment. He kills Doku because Palpatine tells him to, and then he kills Mace because Palpatine again tells him to.

Not once does it feel like he's being led astray, except for maybe the same way a 5-year old gets lured by candy. Not once does it feel like this is an intelligent person getting seduced by something greater then he is. As an example of how this is done right I'll point to Berserk. It too shows the rise, fall, and then evil resurrection of a character who coincedentally is also not the nicest person from the start. The difference being that this character is an extremely clever and methodical strategist, and that he forms a real intense emotional connection with someone, unlike Anakin and Padme. This creates a moment where his emotion overides his logic and he makes a mistake which sets in motion the events that will lead to his downfall and ultimately his resurrection. And here too you know from the start that this person is going to betray his loved ones and turn wholey evil.

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Edgar Wright I would like to see handling something of this stature, too. Eventhough I have a bit of a bone to pick with Scott Pilgrim, it's the movie that has cemented Wright in my mind as one of if not the best action director on the scene today. From a visual and editorial standpoint, that movie is flawless. It's poetry in motion.

The rumor that Brad Bird at one point was considered to direct also made my heart skip. The way he always creates these fun Rube Goldbergian action scenes, is something I think would be a pefect fit for Star Wars.
 

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I think the main problem with the prequels is that maybe George's vision of Star Wars actually isn't that great outside of IV, V, and VI, but now that we'll have other people working on it, it might not be so bad?

Zhukov said:
TheCaptain said:
The new movies will just disrespect all the very good stuff that happened since Return of the Jedi in the franchise...
What?

How has anything happened since Return?

Isn't that chronologically the last movie?
Some people really like the books.
 

Evil Smurf

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Disney made the lion king, UP and Wreck it Ralph. I'm not worried at all.
 

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Well, assuming the audience doesn't go blind the first time someone whips out a lightsaber because the movie is being directed by Mr. LensFlare himself, I'd say it'd be pretty tough for them to make it worse.

I'd be happy as long as they could come up with a decent cast of actual ACTORS...you know...people who can ACT.
 

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Well if the team behing the new Star Wars had learn the mistake from the precludes (1-3) like the acting, certain plotholes, not using too much CGI and annoying character then it should fall inbetween it.

Either way, we don't know if it will be the best of worse of the series since it have not seen it yet have we?
 

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Well, coming from someone who despised the original trilogy, for the most part I could not care less. I mean, the practical special effects were great, and John Williams is always good, but everything else about the series just turned me off.

In short though, I do hope Disney throws out the entire extended universe, just because I would like to sit back and watch the ensuing nerd rage over the whole thing. Then, maybe we can finally be done with Star Wars and realize it was all tripe from the very beginning.
 

Evil Smurf

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Evil Smurf said:
Disney made the lion king, UP and Wreck it Ralph. I'm not worried at all.
They also made High School Musical, Lone Ranger and the Pirates Of The Carribean sequels.
High school musical was good, it was just not to our demographic, The Lone Ranger looks good (from what I've seen of it) and Pirates of the Carribean is a great trilogy series.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Evil Smurf said:
Disney made the lion king, UP and Wreck it Ralph. I'm not worried at all.
They also made High School Musical, Lone Ranger and the Pirates Of The Carribean sequels.
High school musical was good, it was just not to our demographic, The Lone Ranger looks good (from what I've seen of it) and Pirates of the Carribean is a great trilogy series.
Well... The third was rubbish. I haven't seen the fourth (wikipedia tells me that it's not in the same trilogy?) but I suspect that it shares the same problem as The Lone Ranger- that it's been awkwardly mangled to be a Johnny Depp vehicle.

The point I was going to make isn't disagreeing with you though, but rather that thinking Disney making it means that it's going to be good/bad is a bit silly. The project is under Kathleen Kennedy's control and (with a few big exceptions like The Last Airbender) a lot of projects that she's been involved with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Kennedy_(film_producer)] have worked out very well. From what I gather from interviews she seems fairly sensible. Basically, all those Disney movies' quality is pretty much no indication of the future Star Wars films.
 

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Oh, look a Poll Poll.

Anyway, count me as cautiously optimistic. Disney will be making these movies. And they made all the Marvel movies, including Avengers. Now, at worst, those movies were watchable. At best, they were fun, even great, movies. If they can bring the same love and casting to Star Wars that they brought to Marvel, these could be some great movies. Or at least enjoyable movies.

Full Disclosure: I don't hate the prequels. I don't exactly want to rewatch any of them, but, for the most part, they didn't enrage me. Though, I found Anakin to be VERY annoying. Especially in Episode 3.
 

Basement Cat

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I remember watching the original trilogy back when I was in its target demographic: I was a child.

Lucas tried the same approach with the prequels but also tried to satisfy the older fans--it didn't turn out so well.

One of the greatest weaknesses Lucas had as a Director was this: HE DIDN'T DIRECT HIS ACTORS! Seriously, listen to the commentaries and "Making Of" documentaries on the OT and Prequels and you'll repeatedly catch the same comment time and again: Lucas' directions to his actors included but rarely went beyond "faster, more intense". That was it except for the kid in Phantom Menace whom he had to shepherd because the boy was, you know, a kid.

Lucas has repeatedly stated that he hates the Extended Universe that deals with Star Wars post-RotJ. He did take bits and pieces from the pre-OT EU such as Exar Kun's double bladed light saber as well as the blue Twi'lek jedi...I can't recall her name right now.

Disney knows it's got a major cash cow on its hands if it plays its cards right--they didn't invest over $4 BILLION dollars buying Lucas Arts to squander its potential. Abbrams has the potential to do a darned good job and I seriously--very seriously--doubt that Disney will turn a blind eye to the common criticisms about his "lens flare" obsession: $4 billion, remember?

They can't but be painfully aware that they have to navigate a mine field to avoid repeating the same pratfalls that got the Prequels so much criticism.

Lucas was a visionary, but beyond his technical innovations his story telling ability and directing skills are minimal. Disney has full control now and the way they've already planned out a new trilogy in addition to yearly separate films is quite telling: They're planning ahead rather than making things up as they go like Lucas did.[footnote]$4 billion, remember?[/footnote]

Pinkamena said:
I actually liked episode 3, and how they portrayed Anakins fall to the dark side. Anyone else agree?
I'm with you, Pink! I liked it, too. It was easily the best of the Prequels as far as I'm concerned.