Poll: Prison colony

[TheBluesader]

I thought the main reason Britain used Australia as a "prison colony" wasn't so much because their island was overrun by petty criminals they didn't know what to do with. I thought it was because they wanted to colonize Australia, and it was easier to deport people with no better option down there en masse than wait for colonists to sign on and raise the necessary money for traveling costs.

As to why in the world you would ask this question in the first place, I am a little confused. Lots of continents have dangerous animals. That doesn't mean we should deport all the natives and suppose that when we put our criminals there, they'll be stupid enough to let said animals attack them.

Did you happen to come up with this idea while on some sort of substance?

 

[Carter06]

Tasmania on the other hand, is a little useless strip no one (not even in Australia cares about) Seperated by water its small and you dont even have to ship of the current residents just dont tell them and then severe all communication. Not even Australia likes Tasmania.

p.s I am an Australian. I know no one cares about Tasmania, well except for people from there but like i said who cares.

 

[xitel]

Rather than Australia, why not Antarctica or Siberia? It's not really much of a punishment to put a bunch of criminals on a continent where a thriving civilization exists. Plus, what about criminals with less severe crimes? Would someone convicted of Manslaughter 1 be put on the same island as someone who killed 50+ people?

 

[The Iron Ninja]

Tasmania on the other hand, is a little useless strip no one (not even in Australia cares about) Seperated by water its small and you dont even have to ship of the current residents just dont tell them and then severe all communication. Not even Australia likes Tasmania.

p.s I am an Australian. I know no one cares about Tasmania, well except for people from there but like i said who cares.

I defy your statement, I care about Tasmania. I've Been there, Tasmania is actually quite nice.
No one there made fun of my accent either, which is more than I can say for the mainland.
I retract my previous statement about the Falklands. Australia it is, as long as this Carter06 fellow stays there with them.

 

[Carter06]

Even more difficult than relocating all the people would be the almost impossible task of dismantling & removing all the technology & industrial infrastructure which would be advantageous to the prisoners.

Also wouldn't in be a bit unfair on all the Aborigines & indigenous wildlife, who would invariably suffer at the hands of all the world's criminals?

It would be better to put the prisoners on a atoll or volcanic outcrop in the middle of the pacific, much more isolated than Australia, or just a huge man made prison ship.

Of course, if you were going to do that, it'll be more practical & probably more humane just to execute the prisoners, or use them in cutting edge medical research, at least that way they'd be some use to humanity.

You do know that aborginies dont still live in woood huts they are actually part of our community + the only prisoners that can be used for medical research are death row inmates and then only with their consent.

 

[HSIAMetalKing]

I think it would be awesome. Ship a few prisoners to a deserted island, set up a few cameras-- BAM. New reality sensation.

 

[Carter06]

Hey sorry man, its a joke in Australia, on the little islandesque state, sorta like how the some people in North America refer to the South.

By the by i would completely kick the ass of any prisoner that dared look at me cross eyed, just try it.

Nah only kiding didnt mean to cause offense.

 

[Ultrajoe]

Because putting prisoners here is punishment, sure.

I've seen England and the raw end of the deal they got, shipping people here is like giving a rapist a key to the playboy mansion. Australia is hardly a punishment.

Except for the fact that every living thing is venomous in some way, Or full of teeth, Or able to kick your stomach out your ears... Apart from that it's awesome.

And it wouldn't work. It's too large. The infrastructure needed to police it would be huge.

Better to use an island chain with very little natural resources.

 

[The Iron Ninja]

Except for the fact that every living thing is venomous in some way, Or full of teeth, Or able to kick your stomach out your ears... Apart from that it's awesome.

Yeah... If you could name any type of creature, Australia will most likely have the top five most poisonous or just plain dangerous versions of them.

Actually I re-recommend the Falklands again. It's fairly small, split into two halves (women's prison on one island, males prison on the other) and it's not particularly spectacular in terms of weather, sunsets, palm trees or any of that. So prisoners won't get a kick out of being there.

 

[Jamash]

Even more difficult than relocating all the people would be the almost impossible task of dismantling & removing all the technology & industrial infrastructure which would be advantageous to the prisoners.

Also wouldn't in be a bit unfair on all the Aborigines & indigenous wildlife, who would invariably suffer at the hands of all the world's criminals?

It would be better to put the prisoners on a atoll or volcanic outcrop in the middle of the pacific, much more isolated than Australia, or just a huge man made prison ship.

Of course, if you were going to do that, it'll be more practical & probably more humane just to execute the prisoners, or use them in cutting edge medical research, at least that way they'd be some use to humanity.

You do know that aborginies dont still live in woood huts they are actually part of our community + the only prisoners that can be used for medical research are death row inmates and then only with their consent.

I know that Aborigines don't all still live in huts, my point was that it would be really unfair to make them leave their homeland or to fill their homeland up with all the world's criminals, since they'd probably not want to leave. It would also be unfair, since they are integrated into Australian society, to send them back to living in huts, which is what would happen since you'd have to dismantle all the towns, cities & modern conveniences,to make the prison colony actually a prison, rather than just "badass" Australia.

 

[Brett Alex]

Half of the great thing about making Australia a penal colony was that it was unexplored and desolate, and so was everywhere around it. Even if an inmate did escape from the Marines, there was no where to go. The whole continent was supposedly desolate and barren, and half the souther hemisphere was uncharted.

The furthest they could probably get was New Zealand or New Guinea, and there wasn't much they could do from either of those places.

If you really wanted it to work, you would have to remove all existing infrastructure, electronics, transport, maps, everything, before you shipped them over. Unfortunately, there would still be the problem that today, practically everyone knows the world is a lot smaller than it used to be.

And finally, it depends if you want to punish them or not. It would certainly be very punishing for the majority of prisoners, but if you know what you are doing (in regards to plants and animals) and move far enough away from everyone else you can live out the rest of your life in relative peace.

 

[Reaperman Wompa]

What about New Zealand or one of the few other smaller islands around the world, like the previously mentioned Falklands.? Less people to move and big enough to fit all the criminals you want.

Anyways Australians are fiercely proud you try to make us leave and it's gonna be a long and bloody war. It's the Koala's, we couldn't adapt to not being near them

Edit: And I'm NOT moving, Australia has this atmosphere that makes you love it and combined with the weather I couldn't leave it. Ever.

 

[Graustein]

And give our beaches away to a bunch of rapists and murderers?
Fuck no.

 

[Dommyboy]

The idea wouldn't work at all. You would need a smaller area than Australia as it is too large and spread out. Many people would be required to work there, which would be very inconveniant. Transporting criminals there would be a hassle, criminals families could not easily visit them. All in all, it is a stupid idea unless we happen to invent teleporters.

 

[aussiesniper]

I say that we use the McDonalds islands as a penal colony. It has no natives, it's barren and it has an active volcano. It's also more isolated than Australia, as the image shows.

Wiki link [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heard_Island_and_McDonald_Islands]

 

[Sir_Montague]

Escapees? Meh. They might stay on the island... But prisoners these days are crafty...

 

[Moravich]

send them all to easter island, come back in 50 years, and they all vanish, leaving behind statues wearing orange jump suits?
leave the Australians their kangaroos.

 

[Carter06]

Except for the fact that every living thing is venomous in some way, Or full of teeth, Or able to kick your stomach out your ears... Apart from that it's awesome.

Yeah... If you could name any type of creature, Australia will most likely have the top five most poisonous or just plain dangerous versions of them.

Actually I re-recommend the Falklands again. It's fairly small, split into two halves (women's prison on one island, males prison on the other) and it's not particularly spectacular in terms of weather, sunsets, palm trees or any of that. So prisoners won't get a kick out of being there.

unless the two islands you mentioned were seperated by kilometers of water this could be troublesome they should put water cages for twp kilometers around the islands then fill it with sharks to stop the male prisoners swimming over and causing trouble.