Poll: Problems With Anime?

night_tiger9

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The biggest problem I have with anime (mostly naruto and bleach) is that there is TOO MUCH DARN DIALOGUE.

Okay, the final, big fight we were waiting for. They start out talking, then suddenly one of the character starts to have flashbacks to his child hood and why he/she became what they are then. This takes up sooooooo much time that it has to use up a whole show before the REAL fight acctually begins, and yes, it does help a bit with the story but it doesn't need to take up the whole episode, maybe just 1/4.
 

Squilookle

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All of the above, EXCEPT for the weird plots. The willingness to explore stories nobody else even thinks of is anime's greatest strength, in my opinion.

My biggest gripe of all are those little conventions all the shows follow like sheep. You know, the little things, like the massive sweat drip on people's heads, flailing their arms around when yelling, tomboyish girls always ALWAYS punching some guy in the face after they get falsely accused of being a pervert after the same tired old 'wrong place wrong time' bullshit.

-The professional team having one person say 'just a bit more' with another supposed professional saying 'that's too much' or 'it won't take it' only to be proven wrong every single time. Matter of fact any group of professionals regularly being surprised and generally acting like complete novices.

And the women. Don't get me started on the women. In most crap anime there's literally only about 5 types of women, and they all have gravity defying chests save for the little one who is impossibly perky and pretty much bases her entire life around harassing the main character. So many of the women in anime are eiher soft spoken eyes-closed-all-the-time cup hands in front of their chest types, or loud, brash tomboys that love beating guys up, because apparently that a joke that never gets old in anime land.

There is very little anime I like, but don't get me wrong- the anime I like, I usually love. My favourite film of all time is an anime and I'm never ashamed to say it, either. If the spectrum of anime could just get out of it's own asses just long enough to have a look at the diversity in the rest of the world's animation and realise how pigeonholed most of anime is, then maybe we'd start seeing all the tired old anime tricks start to disappear, or only appear where it's actually well handled.

You know, instead of the same old 'girl has just been called pretty-need to show a reaction-the anime text book tells us to make her look down, get red scribbles on her face, grab her own chest for reassurance of whatever, and say something very softly that equates to her not being worthy or some shit'. Oh, and there's a follow up entry here about then showing the guy, realising he's embarrassed her, sweat a massive single drop on the side of his head and then flail his arms around while trying to apologise for opening his mouth in the first place.

It's enough to make you want to puke.
 

v3n0mat3

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I still love anime, but certain groups of people overly obsessed with it turns me off to certain series... It's like they ruined it, in a way.
 

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I like anime, I love the fans, and the complex stories as well as the crazy action... I just wish that I was capable of shutting up about it.
 

Drakmeire

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Zeithri said:
I love anime and I watch a lot of it.

BUT

I really really REALLY HATE how everyone runs around and drinks tea in most of them. I myself, just don't have a taste for tea. I would like to LEARN to drink it though so I can enjoy the health benefits of drinking tea. I was watching Magical Girl Nanoha (Mind you, I've seen A's and StrikerS and StrikerS was fucking awesome) and these 7-9 year old girls were drinking tea and having discussions like adults..

There is a reason why I gave it a 2 out of 10 in score -____-
I pray your being sarcastic
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Sacman

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smearyllama said:
tellmeimaninja said:
Some anime are good (FlCl, Cowboy Bebop), some are bad (Naruto, DBZ).
Interesting. I've heard some bad things about DBZ, but Dragon Ball seems to be a classic.

Mind clearing that up?
Dragon Ball Z dissolved into an uninteresting, repetitive, action anime that just went on for far too long... IMO
Dragon Ball on the other hand was fun, fresh, original and had a lot of charm... and most of all it didn't draw all of the attention to the battles, though they were entertaining in their own right, but rather the quirky and fun characters...
Though Dragon Ball Z isn't Teh worst show evar... it's just not that good and most of the problem is that it's paced horribly and filled with way too much filler... Though I heard Dragon Ball Kai is just Dragon Ball Z without filler...

OT: Anime is like any other form of media and is subject to Sturgeon's Law, that states 90% of everything is crap...<.<
 

DarthFennec

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I answered Awful (English) Voice Acting.
I love a lot of anime shows, but Bleach is the only one I've seen with a competent english dub. That's why I always watch them subbed, it's so much easier to listen to, and often, what they're actually saying (how they word things) is much more intelligent in the subbed versions.
 

Grey_Focks

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Weeaboos are the big reason, but really it's just not my thing. Literally nothing about it appeals to me. At all. people who insist that it's crazy to just dismiss it like this annoy me, a lot. I promise not to openly bash it if you promise not to keep insisting on how great it is. Deal?
 

Mass B

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DarthFennec said:
I answered Awful (English) Voice Acting.
I love a lot of anime shows, but Bleach is the only one I've seen with a competent english dub. That's why I always watch them subbed, it's so much easier to listen to, and often, what they're actually saying (how they word things) is much more intelligent in the subbed versions.
Full Metal Alchemist's English Dub is good as well. And I never had a problem with Pokemon....
 

cryogeist

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i don't know what this would go in but....
the amount of animes that always seems to have a pair of tits bouncing around at all times...it weirds me out >_<
 

vivalahelvig

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Other; All of the above(with the excpetion of none), the piss dribble they call 'naruto', and an odd thing that peeves me, is that in all the anime I've seen, the guy with the gun ges insta-killed by some bloke with a big sword. Maybe that's why I thought A-bombing Japan was always a good idea......
...is that wrong?
 

Slenn

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Loop Stricken said:
Slenn said:
...However the third season...
WHAT? Third season?! When did this happen?!
Yep, there was a 5 episode long 3rd season called Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni Rei. It was made last year and it's considered the OVA of the series and is almost worthless besides having two hilarious episodes that have questionable continuity.
 

Erica Wise

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I love anime, always have, but for a long time I was only allowed to watch what came on toonami: DBZ, yu yu hakusho, ect. But yeah, I can see why it has so much bad pressed.
The fans are weird mainly. You only get anime fans if ur one of us and a con will scare the piss out of a non-fan if it's either the half naked guy cross dressing or the hundreds of half dressed jailbait swarming that one really bad Squall cosplayer.

Anymore though the shows suck. They're all teenage drama and angst. I hate Angst. Ugh...

Also, y do all the girls have to be 12? Yeah yeah, I get it, she's 17, but she LOOKS like loli fodder.

And y do all the guys have to be either Broly (supremely muscled), a manly sounding possible woman, or that one loser that has all these hot women throwing themselves at him but he still wants the robot?
 

Sakurazaki1023

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BonsaiK said:
Mass B said:
I wanted to know, what is the biggest reason that people stay away from anime?
I like the complex plots, that's definitely a plus point. Voice acting can't be traced to Anime specifically, there's shitty English dubs in most foreign films. Weeaboos are a little crazy and divorced from reality but then so are people who are really into stamps or trains.

Your forgot misogyny in your list, that's definitely incredibly widespread in Anime and in fact a lot of the things in your list (like screechy characterisation) are secondary points which can be traced back to this one.
Unfortunately misogyny is going to be present in some anime just like it's present in some western sitcoms and movies. Thankfully, many of the more mature anime series subvert this by including very strong and well characterized female characters. Motoko from Ghost In The Shell and Haruka from Rahxephon are perfect examples of more realistic characterization creating sympathetic and believable female characters who aren't there just to look pretty. Unfortunately there are also hundreds of shallow stock characters that are nothing more than cookie-cutter personalities stapled onto an attractive body.

I think some of the misconceptions about anime that the OP mentioned stem from a generalized view of popular anime and the stereotypes associated with a few select series. I've noticed that many people see anime in a different light when compared to western programming. Yes, there are some anime that objectify women and involve angsty teenagers bitching about their problems. There is also an entire franchise in western television built around women trying to sleep with Flavor Flav.

The point is that while western television caters to many genres, demographics, and personal opinions, people assume that all anime is catering to a single demographic. Some anime is for kids, some is for adults, some is geared toward males, some is geared toward females, some is geared toward misogynists, some is nothing but softcore porn, and some of it is truly art. You wouldn't consider Citizen Kain equal in artistic merit to Nacho Libre just because they are both movies, so stop classifying all anime as either Naruto or porn.

To put this rambling back into video game territory...

When most people think about anime, they are probably thinking about a series that is about on par with Grand Theft Auto. It may be popular, but you wouldn't point to it as a shining symbol of the maturity and artistic creativity of modern gaming.
 

RJ Dalton

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Honestly, the fanbase never bothered me, because my general opinion of people throughout my life is that people can all fuck off regardless of who they are and what they're into.
The complex stories are quite honestly the thing I tend to love about Anime over western animation, that and they take it much more seriously (usually and in ways that tend to matter to me). That said, the thing that turns me off the anime that I don't like are also the things I hate about media in general; namely, an over-reliance on stock plots and characters. When I was first getting into anime, I'd make the flawed assumption that all anime was creative and original because I never saw the stock elements of western television in it. It wasn't until years later, during my high school years when I had the shit tons of disposable income and free-time needed to amass a huge collection that I was able to see that anime is just as uncreative and stock driven as western media, it just has different stock elements. And so, like western media, the anime I tend to like is the stuff that does stuff differently from other anime series, or at least does the stuff really, really well, which is not nearly as often as I would have said back when I was in middle school.