Poll: Quicksilver - Days of Future Past, or Age of Ultron?

[CaptainMarvelous]

AoU version, banter with Hawkeye was pretty fun and having an asshole catchphrase is less annoying than listening to a song while moving in absolutely fractions of a second. Yeah it was cool musical backdrop but how is he LISTENING to it!? I mean... awesome scene but much like the rest of the plot, zero planning for practicality.

Captcha: saber tooth. Well... I think captcha's going X-men

Well, we see earlier he reprogrammed his Atari to mach levels, probably he did the same to the headphones, or maybe while he's running he generates some kind of "time bubble" around him which prevents friction from killing him and the hearphones are included.

but that's not... he doesn't have time stop powers though? Or if he did then wouldn't the whole 'whiplash' thing not affect anyone he took with him? (ala Flash and the Speedforce).

Plus,doesn't he listen to it on a conventional tape player (or CD player? I can't remember :-/) I can't imagine he managed to speed it up to 1.6 million times (even if the Atari managed it).

>.> Though I do think you gave it a lot more thought than whoever wrote it did.

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

It's pretty fun thinking about the physics of it, in general the rule is not to think about the x-men's powers.

I try not to (despite the handbook giving a detailed description) all I really want is internal consistency. Like Magneto only controlling metal, even if it's way outlandish how far they think metals can be magnetised, is at least consistent and the whole blood/iron thing only working with big boosts of iron.

 

[Drake the Dragonheart]

I have to say I agree. I thought AoU was a better film but Marvel's Quicksilver was pretty bland as a character and the use of his power wasn't quite as fun (apart from the bit with Thor's hammer which was hilarious).

How hilarious would it have been if he had jumped on the hammer and rode it like a surfboard? I would have thought that funny anyways.

I liked both, but DoFP Quicksilver was easily the funniest and most memorable scene from that movie.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Spoiler

I'd say Quicksilver was still pretty imba in avengers. He only lost a fight because he made a mistake grabbing Thor's hammer, or because of other peoples mistakes. It struck me that if he had more experience the Avengers would have been dead, maybe the Hulk can't be killed by him(can he kill Bruce quicker than the transformation takes place?). The Avengers only had a chance when he and Scarlet changed sides. Except they explained why he won't be used to solve every problem from now on by killing him .

 

[Vivi22]

Granted in saying they made the Wanda a baby in the X-men eventhought they suppose to be twins.

That's actually Polaris not Wanda AKA scarlet Witch.

That actually makes it worse if true.

DoFP had one cool scene with the walking plot hole that was their version of Quicksilver. AoU actually had a character underneath all the super speed. That alone makes me prefer the AoU version.

 

[Scars Unseen]

Age of Ultron, easily. In DoFP, the Quicksilver scene was pretty much the only entertaining part of the entire movie, but that doesn't make the character any good, his inclusion in the story any less of a shoehorn, or his role in the story anything that even comes close to being what I would want in an ensemble superhero film.

AoU's Quicksilver had good action scenes, but his power levels are set at a level that he fits in with the team, rather than being so ridiculous that he can do everything by himself and has to be written out of the story just so that the story isn't "they found Quicksilver, and he solved all of their problems. The End."

 

[XDSkyFreak]

Call me crazy but isn't this question pointlesss? I mean, no matter how much I dislike DofP Quicksilver, he wins by default by still beeing alive and usable in future movies. Both are generic archetypes in the movies they appeared until now, but the key point here is: MCU Quicksilver is dead. Done. X-men Quicksilver can still grow and evolve and can appear again. Also, does anyone else think this was all a deal? MCU gets to keep Scarlet Witch, X-men gets to use Quicksilver. Which leads us to how MCUs quicksilver just gets killed at the end for no bloody reason (other than get Wanda to hate Ultron and help the Avengers, both of which she allready did ...)

 

[Kaimax]

Spoiler

Going from alive to dead isn't considered "character development".

At least he finished his character Arc, started out as a character filled with vengeance for anything related to Stark to finally becoming a self-sacrificing hero. Where as DoFP's Quicksilver was just a very cool plot device, and I honestly doubt that Fox can make good use of him in the future because they can't use the same trick again, and DoFPs Quicksilver's power level has plot-holing capabilities.

Also, why is death a detriment to a character? Is being alive the only redeeming quality for a character?

 

[Kaimax]

accidental edit.

 

[Starik20X6]

Have to say I really enjoyed both versions. DoFP's was a really cool part of the movie, while AoU had a proper and satisfying arc.

Spoiler

Of course, I have to wonder if them killing off Quicksilver in AoU was their way of getting back at Fox for refusing to give up the rights to X-Men, particularly after the way Fox flipped them off by adding Quicksilver to their own movie...

I preferred Age of Ultron's due to the character actually having character instead of being an archetype that's been done to death, coupled with the fact that he isn't game breaking powerful so they can actually use him for more then one scene before forgetting he exists so that the rest of the movie can have a plot (seriously, they had no need to break out Magneto from prison what-so-ever in the first place, and without him things would have been easier, and on top of that having Quicksilver with them would have ended everything if he was present. Talk about an Idiot Plot, Xavier never should have told Logan to unite them in the past).

Well, he wasn't supposed to be in Days of Future Past in the first place [http://www.cinemablend.com/new/X-Men-Days-Future-Past-Deleted-Juggernaut-Scene-Has-Been-Revealed-66449.html]. I suppose if he wasn't such a late addition to the movie he'd have had more screen time. And I think the reason Future Charles and Erik wanted Past Erik out of prison and with Past Charles was so Past Charles could also try altering Erik's course away from them fighting their whole lives. Of course, doesn't change the fact that they could have just done this instead [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT6YOI6JcRs&spfreload=10].

 

[Zontar]

And I think the reason Future Charles and Erik wanted Past Erik out of prison and with Past Charles was so Past Charles could also try altering Erik's course away from them fighting their whole lives. Of course, doesn't change the fact that they could have just done this instead [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT6YOI6JcRs&spfreload=10].

To be honest, if there's one thing I didn't like about First Class it was the fact it shouldn't have been part of the timeline as the rest of the movies in the first place, since the first X-Men movie implied that Mutants came into the public eye in the 90s and that it was only after the government started talking about what to do about the issue that Erik started taking up arms. Having it all start in the 60s and the public knowing about it in the 70s doesn't really gel that well with the other movies, though I guess it's a moot point since they've all been retconed out of existence.

 

[kris40k]

Plus,doesn't he listen to it on a conventional tape player (or CD player? I can't remember :-/) I can't imagine he managed to speed it up to 1.6 million times (even if the Atari managed it).

I can't recall what he was using from the top of my head, but cassette players didn't become too common until the late 70's (the Walkman launched in '79). Probably would have been using an 8-Track, although he did pretty much steal whatever electronics he wanted. I know you can speed up casstte decks to faster speeds, but I'm not sure if they could get up to THAT fast without destroying the tape.

Spoiler: Gonna just have to rule of cool it and allow it.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Spoiler

Going from alive to dead isn't considered "character development".

At least he finished his character Arc, started out as a character filled with vengeance for anything related to Stark to finally becoming a self-sacrificing hero. Where as DoFP's Quicksilver was just a very cool plot device, and I honestly doubt that Fox can make good use of him in the future because they can't use the same trick again, and DoFPs Quicksilver's power level has plot-holing capabilities.

Also, why is death a detriment to a character? Is being alive the only redeeming quality for a character?

I didn't see him evolve any, him and Wanda don't change anything except what side they're throwing punches at.

 

[Mahorfeus]

I have to go with the AoU Quicksilver.

DoFP Quicksilver was more fun, but I agree that he was more a contrived plot device than anything; a one-hit wonder at that. He got the one father gag with Magneto (IIRC) and of course, "the scene." I don't think I even need to describe "the scene," which is kind of an indication that it is the character's only moment that is really worth a damn. And as powerful as he was portrayed in that one scene, letting him stick around would have been plot suicide; I have a hard time believing that the writers weren't aware of this when writing the movie. Not to mention that in the space starting from Wolverine's whole "I know a guy" thing and ending with said character leaving, they could have shoved in just about any mutant.

As for AoU, I thought Wanda was the more interesting twin by far, and most of Quicksilver's character seemed to revolve around keeping her safe, thus serving the "protective big brother" archetype. I'd be lying if I said his character was very deep, but I think that he was portrayed solidly enough to give the impression that he was just an innately good person that made some mistakes.

 

[Evonisia]

Just had a thought: Would the blatant reduction of Quisksilver to a plot device in Days of Future Past been as bad if they hadn't included that shot of him watching the TV during the climax? I mean, if the film had just forgotten about him it would have been OK, but they had to add that in.

 

[FPLOON]

AoU's Quicksilver... Hands down!

I remember watching Quicksilver in DoFP and thinking, "Is he really the best part of this movie?" And even after seeing his suppose best scene in the whole movie (which I would counter with him tying up that one guard with duck tape as being the best Quicksilver scene, I guess), I was left with a resounding "meh" afterwards... At least in terms of DoFP in general, the ending did leave me more amazed, if you could call it that, that Quicksilver's overall appearance in that movie...

Now, while watching AoU, I was really digging Quicksilver in that movie... His "catchphrase" of "You didn't see that coming?" made me smile, his ignorance in combat (like trying to grab Thor's hammer) also made me smile, and despite knowing what happens to him, it didn't seem like it shouldn't have happened given what was going on in the scene in question... Plus, he got more screen time, so there's that...

Overall, even if DoFP Quicksilver got that "better" overall moment, AoU Quicksilver still got the "better" overall appearance...

 

[Laughing Man]

AoU is a more complete character arc where as DOFP is a plot driving device. DoFP is the more fun character and the slow mo shot after they release Magneto is better than anything that he did in AoU. The little scene with him and the cop at the end of AoU, if they had introduced that humour to his character a lot sooner and maybe run with it a bit more then AoU would win but for now DoFP was the weaker character in terms of plot but more fun to watch.

 

[F-I-D-O]

I have to say Age of Ultron was the better Quicksilver.
This is mostly due to the fact that AoU let Quicksilver be a character, and not a one note set piece. DoFP used Quicksilver purely as a plot advancement device, and then left him, with no real closure or development for that character. In Age of Ultron, the twins became a pinnacle element of the film, with both of them having character arcs and fleshed out backstories. Funnily enough, AoU had a better story about the twins while avoiding "mutant" and "Magneto," while DoFP just said he runs fast.

Also, being a picky bastard, the powers that Quicksilver showed in DoFP were closer to DC's Flash and Speedster powers, not what Quicksilver does in the comics.

Overall, I just thought that AoU actually used Quicksilver and made him important and satisfying to watch, while DoFP seemed to just want to have Quicksilver before Marvel's hit the screen.