Poll: Satanism

[michiehoward]

I tend to dislike organised religion in general.

Funny fact that upside down cross that Satanists use to show that they are against god is actually one of Christianity's most holy symbols. It refers to St. Peter being crucified upside down. Don't believe me then what's it doing here.

yep that's the popes chair and the reason that cross is upside down is because the upside down cross is more respectful to god apparently.

Dumbass Satanists.

http://www.shasta.com/sphaws/invertedcross.html

Yeah Peter was to be crucified but he asked to crucified upside down because he thought he was not worthy to die as Christ did.

And secondly Atheistic Satanism...oxymoron

Couldn't agree more about Satanist taking the "cool" parts of Judeo-Christian religion. Couldn't even be original like the whack Scientology.

 

[Macgyvercas]

Why is there no option for "I don't give a toss one way or the other", because that's my stake on it. Essentially, to each their own, and if they don't bother me, I won't bother them.

 

[Venereus]

Is the Santa thread ready yet? Can you link me too it, please?

Seriously, why are we giving satanism attention?

 

[TilMorrow]

I think the poll doesn't have enough options.

Pfft, Satanism? Blood Magic is all the rage these days or Chaos... BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

Oooh I though this was a thread about santa.

I love you for that comment. Wanna go and make a thread about santa?

If you do you will have my post.

 

[dogenzakaminion]

Screw the Wikipedia links, I read the Bible itself. It's on my bookshelf downstairs. Pretty wierd stuff but nothing "wrong". It's about worshiping yourself, being the best human you can be primarily for yourself, but also toward others. Those that you deem worthy at least. There's no belief of any higher power, so whether it qualifies as a religion is debatable, but it basically says love yourself, love others, and don't be a dick. Unless someone is a dick you first. I respect that attitude. Though there is a lot of stuff about meditation to enlightenment of self and spells and "summoning the core of your power to vanquish your enemies" stuff which is weird.

This only applies to LaVeysist Satanism though. At least to my knowledge. There are so many cults and sekts and different ways of being a satanist, just like other religions.

 

[Togs]

Well for one I know that Satanism and devil worship are 2 different things- devil worship is kinda the antilog to christianity whereas satanism is more about celebrating/fetishizing the more base elements of human nature.

personally I see minimal differences between it and other faiths, but this one seems to say its ok to be worthless and selfish which I find morally abhorrent.

 

[NLS]

Well, you don't get anything from being a satanist, it's not like you get your special place in hell when you die or something. Like most religions, not a necessary part of life for normal people.

 

[Dimensional Vortex]

Oooh I though this was a thread about santa.

no, that would be santanism.


i think all religions are stupid. all that religion has brought upon mankind is conflicts and hate. but if we have to accept that some people believe in magical elves, then i think it doesnt matter what kind of elves. therefore i dont think that any kind of religion is worse than other.

Religion itself is fine, the terrible things religion causes is bad. If you could have reasonable people who have religious views but don't kill or waste their lives on it, would you agree that its fine and it gives people hope? Unless of course you're an egomaniac that thinks your opinion should be law, which I doubt you are.

Really Satanism is just another religion if they don't hurt, kill or enforce their beliefs on other people it would be fine. The only downside would be how extremely uncomfortable people would be around a self proclaimed Satanist. Although I have to agree with a previous comment, it is like Scientology in the way that it was made for commercial reasons.

 

[Nickolai77]

Satanism is a religion tailored to be the bi-polar opposite of Christianity, whilst also taking on some of the "cool" aspects of Christianity as well as taking on some of the myths that Christianity created about Witches in the early modern era. In some way's, it's an off-shoot of Christianity, whilst not being Christian at the same time, ironically enough.

 

[wooty]

I always thought that people who called themselves satanists were just looking for attention or trying to be cool. At least most of the people I know always said it to try and be edgy and stand out from the crowd, never impressed me to be honest.

 

[DuctTapeJedi]

I was just watching some of the older LRRs on their site, and I felt this one was relavent to the thread.

 

[Audun]

Where is the distinction between a cult and a religion? To me it appears that satanism is an christian cult. Which deifies satan, a character in the christian bible, with a childish philosophy to add credibility.

Am i justified in comparing this offshoot sect with a rebellious teenager?

Edit: Choosing the upside down cross as a symbol for a religion without first researching what it meant seems like something an 8 year old would do.

 

[TonyVonTonyus]

People usually have problems with Satanism because it contains the word "satan" but their idealogy actually seems pretty good if you think about it. Eye for an eye, discipline and yet indulgence. It's not actually a BAD way of thinking.

 

[funguy2121]

I'm curious to see what people here think of Satanism as an ideology. Firstly, though, I want to know what you all actually know about Satanism BEFORE looking it up. Then once you've done that read this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism] and this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism] and tell me your opinion on it

What, no option for indifference? I cannot honestly take part in your poll.

My understanding of Satanists is like my understanding of Bin Ladin. Instead of listening to pundits and seminarists and other people who make their living scaring the shit out of me, I listen to what Satanists say about themselves, their motivations, etc.

They don't worship, or even believe in, Satan. Most of them appear to think they're hot shit. That's about it. My opinion's pretty similar to scientology. It seems to be more of a fun little secret society for snobs than an actual religion. Now, let's chase down those links!

 

[DanielDeFig]

Firstly, i'm not religious.

Before reading the wiki links:
I went to their website once, to check out what they were about. Their ten commandments made far more sense and were far more moral than what the christian version is. A lot about treating others equally/ same as you wish to be treated.

After reading the wiki links:
Yeah, pretty much the same. Got a better picture now (it was only once several years ago), i didn't know it was so splintered (but then again, what religion isn't?), and i like the idea of concentrating on humans and oneself for worship (Still don't understand the point of "worshiping", but i do appreciate a more humanist approach to religion). What i don't like is the LaVeyan promotion of far too much self-sufficiency, vengeance, and sometimes even unprovoked violence.

I have nothing against people believing in this stuff, it's one of the better versions of religion i've seen (not as good as, Buddhism or Shinto, but definitely better than christianity). But as an organized religion, i'm still against it.

(lulz! when chrome corrects me for misspelling christianity, it insists on capitalizing. Doesn't treat satanism the same.)

 

[k-ossuburb]

I actually don't have much of a problem with Satanists, really. At least they're not trying to force the government to reflect their own values or shove their ideologies down people's throats all the damn time. They can believe whatever they like, as long as it doesn't harm me or my rights in some way.

Same reason why I've got no problem with Jainists or Buddhists; they don't bother me, so I don't bother them.

Simple really.

 

[Blood Countess]

I don't view what Levey made as Satanism since I know both Traditional Satanists and Luciferians but I got no problem with the ideals since the ones I know are honestly good people themselves to me but some are douches but that is how all groups are

 

[funguy2121]

Is the Santa thread ready yet? Can you link me too it, please?

Seriously, why are we giving satanism attention?

OP, you've gotta quit sourcing Wikipedia. After reading the first couple of paragraphs of link 1: here's some things I noticed.

In the book of Job he is called Satan (meaning "accuser."). Satan means "enemy." That's why in the movies you always see an Arab guy shouting about "American Satans."

...and acted as prosecutor in God's court. Satan was the angel in charge of music. He was not a "heavenly lawyer."

This character is the bringer of Armageddon and Apocalypse as featured within the Book of Revelation. The Beast and the AntiChrist, 2 separate figures, bring about the Apocalypse in the Book of Revelation.

 

[Ampersand]

It's no better then any other religion.

 

[Estocavio]

Satanism is about self worship. What most people think is satanism is devil worship and a completely different thing. There's different types of satanism just like with christianity.

I applaud you for knowing this.
Very few people do tragically.