Poll: Should dueling be legal?
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if both/all people involved agree to it, sure, were not exactly an endangered species right now. as another poster pointed out though, bureaucracy would make it more needlessly complicated than the violent caveman population of humanity could reasonably circumvent, which would leave a lot of dumb people wanting to kill each other unable to duel, which kinda removes a big social benefit of having duels.
i was thinking maybe local morgues could be expanded to support dueling rings and handle most of the paperwork, which would at least centralize the process.
i was thinking maybe local morgues could be expanded to support dueling rings and handle most of the paperwork, which would at least centralize the process.
Will have to say no seeing as how it could be a major liability to bystanders. An errant shot could kill someone. Plus, there's the legal morass that could ensue if someone was trying to falsely claim participation in a duel or vice versa. It's not a right I have any qualms about giving up.
It would be brilliant. But I could see a whole world of competitive people taking it too far, like they do with conkers.fix-the-spade said:
Some would laquer their handbags and bake them in the oven for toughness, others would fill them with bricks, or pool balls!
They could show the duels on TV.....it'd beat the shit they show on Saturday nights at the moment!
I think it should be legal.
Only stupid people would go for it (the shooting variety, at least), but if two people truly believe something so strongly that they are willing to risk their life for it, or if two people truly hate each other so much that they BOTH COMPLETELY consent to this test of might or luck, I think that it is not the government's business.
As long as both parties are consenting and lay the rules out very clearly, with signed documents and everything, I see no room for abuse and no reason for it to be illegal.
Only stupid people would go for it (the shooting variety, at least), but if two people truly believe something so strongly that they are willing to risk their life for it, or if two people truly hate each other so much that they BOTH COMPLETELY consent to this test of might or luck, I think that it is not the government's business.
As long as both parties are consenting and lay the rules out very clearly, with signed documents and everything, I see no room for abuse and no reason for it to be illegal.
Absolutely, to the death and only to the death between two consenting adults. If it is made perfectly clear that someone will die at the end of it, fewer people will accept and if they do, that's their fault and only their fault.
Mabye, but then again, the strongest person would win; it's no contest.
It's a brutal idea, and it'd be totally abused.
Actually, fuck it, it's a terrible idea.
Yeh.
It's a brutal idea, and it'd be totally abused.
Actually, fuck it, it's a terrible idea.
Yeh.
Yes Dueling should be legal, but only with swords! If what you fighting over is that much trouble a least fight to to death over it!
It's just too much of a burden on society. If you missed a shot, you could hit someone else. If you don't die, insurance will probably have to cover you. And reports of random gunfire everywhere could do bad thing to the police's sanity.
And ultimately, senseless killing in any way, shape, or form just doesn't sit right with me.
And ultimately, senseless killing in any way, shape, or form just doesn't sit right with me.
Taser dueling would be awesome, whoever ends up twitching on the ground loses but nobody has to die.
It shouldn't be legal at all. In an idealistic world maybe, but in the real world their are too many problems.
How do you prove someone was killed under dueling circumstances, through paperwork?
In what circumstance is letting emotionally unstable people fight to the death a good idea when disputes can be solved in so many other ways?
What if someone is forced into a duel?
How do you prove someone was killed under dueling circumstances, through paperwork?
In what circumstance is letting emotionally unstable people fight to the death a good idea when disputes can be solved in so many other ways?
What if someone is forced into a duel?
No, that's a stupid idea.
Imagine:
1. The amount of dead bodies everywhere.
2. Stupid decisions made by people because they were angry.
3. It does count as murder, yes the person dead might have consented, but what about relatives and loved ones???
4. People could just kill other people, then say they both agreed to a duel, thus getting away with it.
How can people not see anything wrong with what is quite obviously murder. This would just encourage people to murder.
Hell even euthanasia is illegal. Seriously though how can you enjoy killing someone in real life, even if you don't like them.
Imagine:
1. The amount of dead bodies everywhere.
2. Stupid decisions made by people because they were angry.
3. It does count as murder, yes the person dead might have consented, but what about relatives and loved ones???
4. People could just kill other people, then say they both agreed to a duel, thus getting away with it.
How can people not see anything wrong with what is quite obviously murder. This would just encourage people to murder.
Hell even euthanasia is illegal. Seriously though how can you enjoy killing someone in real life, even if you don't like them.
If two consenting adults want to do anything to one another, and both accept the outcome, I say go for it. Provided you can back out at any time, and you both sign something agreeing to the terms, I find it hard to argue with. Then again, that will put me out of a job in the future as a lawyer if people can settle disputes like this?
Even if there's an argument that it'll weed out the stupid or the arrogant or the impulsive...
those people have parents who probably love them and other family, and friends who are maybe less stupid, hell they might even have kids.
Don't encourage them to go out and get shot and break so many hearts!
those people have parents who probably love them and other family, and friends who are maybe less stupid, hell they might even have kids.
Don't encourage them to go out and get shot and break so many hearts!
Murder is the *unlawful* killing of another. If it's not against the law, it isn't murder.C95J said:
Point 1 is completely unfounded, as few would consent to dueling.
Point 2 can be reduced significantly by requiring paperwork and a 3-day waiting period, signed by a judge and all.
Point 3 is irrelevant.
Point 4: See Point 2. We live in a modern society. There would be regulation of some sort for duels that would take place.
Just because euthanasia is illegal doesn't mean that it should be illegal. What a person does with their own body is no business of the State's, and what two consenting people wish to do to each other, so long as the rules are clearly defined, is also no business of the government's.
Also, out of curiosity, how the hell does participating in a duel equate to "enjoy[ing] killing someone in real life"?