Unfortunately, I can't offer a direct comparison since my F3 experience is pretty limited. But, I will say that as a fan of F1 and F2, I really liked New Vegas. Also, all the other diehard Fallout fans that I've talked to have recommended New Vegas over F3. And, finally, Obsidian, who developed New Vegas but not F3, is based around the core team from Black Isle. So, it's a game from the original Fallout crew, instead of the fans at Bethesda that made F3.
Poll: Should I get Fallout 3 or fallout new vegas?
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Fallout New Vegas improves upon the gameplay mechanics of Fallout 3, so it is the better one in that regard.
However, Fallout 3 provides a better introduction into the world of Fallout (you really don't even need to know Fallout 1+2). And since both games are not too far apart in quality I definetely recommend Fallout 3.
And just in case you are German: Stay the hell away from the german low violence version of the game. Either get the austrian uncensored version or the english original altogether.
The german dub sucks and the censored violence takes away much of the athmosphere.
However, Fallout 3 provides a better introduction into the world of Fallout (you really don't even need to know Fallout 1+2). And since both games are not too far apart in quality I definetely recommend Fallout 3.
And just in case you are German: Stay the hell away from the german low violence version of the game. Either get the austrian uncensored version or the english original altogether.
The german dub sucks and the censored violence takes away much of the athmosphere.
i am also a fan of the original Fallouts (i do realize the OP hasn't played them), but i played Fallout 3 and loved it. didn't play NV because i didn't really like the factions from Fallout 2, i really don't like playing all sides like that, i'd rather just be a good or bad guy and explore and hunt super mutants in bad-ass armor. (plus it was cool to explore the ruins of DCtacotrainwreck said:
)i liked that in Fallout 3 i could just wait on the main quest and just explore. my recommendation if you choose Fallout 3. ignore the DLC, explore the wasteland, slowly get through the main quest, but save the main quest end until you're about to be lvl 20 (the non-DLC cap). once you're more or less done with the wasteland, finish the main story (saving first), then install the DLC. you won't get the 'cheap' DLC weapons until it doesn't matter too much and have fun with it all.
and that classic character was already growing a tree out of him, it only made sense for it to keep growing.
OP has probably found his answer by now and made his purchase but...
Fallout 3 in my personal opinion is a much better game. It's very fun to play and has many qualities similar to The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. There's a quality to the world, the characters you meet and the adventures you have. It may not be by the guys who made the old games, but that is a poor standard to judge a game by, who makes it. If the work is good -- it is good, it doesn't matter who made it.
A lot of people don't even try FO3 and just play NV -- indeed many in this very thread have suggested that you do just that -- but in my opinion, this is because of fan-loyalty and personal bias. The fallout series was a sore spot for its core fan base for a long time, because the 'real' Fallout 3 never got to see the light of a release. That's why many people claim that the actual Fallout 3 made by Bethesda Softworks, has "terrible writing" and that you should play New Vegas made by the "old Fallout team" in reality, Fallout New Vegas wasn't entirely made by the same exact team as the old games, and it shows many missing qualities. Not to mention that it borrows extensively from Fallout 3's engine itself. It seems silly to not even give FO3 a chance.
Anyway, now to my personal opinion on New Vegas.. I didn't like it. It's for a start, the first Fallout game to not have you start out as a vault dweller or have atleast some relation to vaults.. you're just some average joe. Now, in my opinion that right there is poor writing. Not giving the fans what they expect -- or wanted for many years. A game that goes alongside what we loved in the old games. NV changes all that and turns the Fallout world into a wild west cowboy romp with enemies from the Fallout universe just lazily tossed in and randomly placed about. You'll fight end game enemies right outside the starting town for the beginning of the game. You'll find invisible barriers that never existed in the game series before, you'll see a lack of play testing in the gameplay that's readily apparent and you'll encounter a lot of frustrating bugs that pin you into a single type of gameplay. Using guns. I encountered repeated crashes and freezing issues when using melee and unarmed special attacks (playing on a console, no less! the easiest system to rid of bugs!) that were there in October 2010 and still exist. Buyer beware... they haven't so much as touched the game since it's release, it remains a very glitchy game. One more complaint I have about the game is every, single, person, you meet, is bland and monotone. "Like a cowboy", they all talk in the same accent and they all have no real personalities. The only characters that stand out are big name actors that were paid to voice dialogue for certain characters, but this doesn't happen until very late in the game (if you excuse the beginning cutscene) and it doesn't really feel that special after talking to 205 boring monotone characters that repeat the same boring lines "Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a Nuclear Winter". Go ahead, youtube that line to get an idea of what I mean.
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Them's my opinions. Take 'em with a grain of salt... but know that I love the Fallout series, but not to the point that it blinds me.
Fallout 3 in my personal opinion is a much better game. It's very fun to play and has many qualities similar to The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. There's a quality to the world, the characters you meet and the adventures you have. It may not be by the guys who made the old games, but that is a poor standard to judge a game by, who makes it. If the work is good -- it is good, it doesn't matter who made it.
A lot of people don't even try FO3 and just play NV -- indeed many in this very thread have suggested that you do just that -- but in my opinion, this is because of fan-loyalty and personal bias. The fallout series was a sore spot for its core fan base for a long time, because the 'real' Fallout 3 never got to see the light of a release. That's why many people claim that the actual Fallout 3 made by Bethesda Softworks, has "terrible writing" and that you should play New Vegas made by the "old Fallout team" in reality, Fallout New Vegas wasn't entirely made by the same exact team as the old games, and it shows many missing qualities. Not to mention that it borrows extensively from Fallout 3's engine itself. It seems silly to not even give FO3 a chance.
Anyway, now to my personal opinion on New Vegas.. I didn't like it. It's for a start, the first Fallout game to not have you start out as a vault dweller or have atleast some relation to vaults.. you're just some average joe. Now, in my opinion that right there is poor writing. Not giving the fans what they expect -- or wanted for many years. A game that goes alongside what we loved in the old games. NV changes all that and turns the Fallout world into a wild west cowboy romp with enemies from the Fallout universe just lazily tossed in and randomly placed about. You'll fight end game enemies right outside the starting town for the beginning of the game. You'll find invisible barriers that never existed in the game series before, you'll see a lack of play testing in the gameplay that's readily apparent and you'll encounter a lot of frustrating bugs that pin you into a single type of gameplay. Using guns. I encountered repeated crashes and freezing issues when using melee and unarmed special attacks (playing on a console, no less! the easiest system to rid of bugs!) that were there in October 2010 and still exist. Buyer beware... they haven't so much as touched the game since it's release, it remains a very glitchy game. One more complaint I have about the game is every, single, person, you meet, is bland and monotone. "Like a cowboy", they all talk in the same accent and they all have no real personalities. The only characters that stand out are big name actors that were paid to voice dialogue for certain characters, but this doesn't happen until very late in the game (if you excuse the beginning cutscene) and it doesn't really feel that special after talking to 205 boring monotone characters that repeat the same boring lines "Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a Nuclear Winter". Go ahead, youtube that line to get an idea of what I mean.
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Them's my opinions. Take 'em with a grain of salt... but know that I love the Fallout series, but not to the point that it blinds me.
New Vegas has Mr. New Vegas and Radio Utopitha. It's a far funnier game for one thing, especially if you play with Wild Wastlander turned on.
I would have to agree. Don't pay attention to the poll results because it depends on what your priority is. The main story was better in New Vegas but the world wasn't as interesting a place to explore: the map is all cluttered and while there are more locations, many of them are completely meaningless - one's just a sheet-metal lean-to. The only location in New Vegas that came close to being as interesting as your average Fallout 3 location was Vault 11.Astoria said:
I liked Fallout 3 more because the world you explore is a lot more interesting and really feels like a wasteland and each location was more intricate & had interesting little stories of it's own that you put together. However, the main story in Fallout 3 was pretty pedestrian.
The DLC in Fallout 3 was also a lot better.
The other thing is that most of the improvements made to New Vegas were originally mods for Fallout 3. So since you're playing on the PC, I would definitely go with Fallout 3 and just get some of the mods.
Fallout 3 also runs better.
If I was to get Fallout 3, I would get the GTOY edition because it's the same price as the base game with no DLC ($20) and I don't want to pay $20-30 for content I could have gotten in the GOTY version for the same price as the base game, and I don't think there's anyway to not install the DLC with steamultrabiome said:
hmm. i bought the PC GOTY disk off of amazon irrc, but when i loaded up the game i remember being able to select which DLC i wanted activated. it wasn't a big deal when i activated them all at once when i reloaded my last save right before the end of the main quest.stringtheory said:
might be the same through steam.
On one hand, I think you should get Fallout 3 because I'm sure you'd enjoy both games and would eventually buy New Vegas, and going to Fallout 3 to New Vegas would be more preferable than going from New Vegas to Fallout 3 because it could be seen as an upgrade of sorts (several mechanics are added or improved in New Vegas, which I feel make it better as an RPG). On the other hand, New Vegas is simply a better game. Take that as you will.
Fallout NV has a more fun world to walk around in. But if you want to feel like your actually in a post apocalyptic world Fallout 3 hands down. I just walked around for hours in fallout 3 trying to find out what awesome thing would happen next. Also NV has SO many more bugs then fallout 3. I saw three lizards all walking in the same centimeter of space in a rock. It was really easy to shoot them though.
does Fallout 3 have any DLC like GRA in New Vegas, which makes it way too easy?
or is all the DLC for Fallout 3 all separate areas, which you can access on your own time?
or is all the DLC for Fallout 3 all separate areas, which you can access on your own time?
Let me put it this way - if I could vote more than once, Fallout 3 would have 1000 votes!
It has an amazing storyline, with characters I actually care about, the best enviromental storytelling ever in a game and an amazing ending. If you can get the DLCs get Broken Steel as you can continue with the game.
It has an amazing storyline, with characters I actually care about, the best enviromental storytelling ever in a game and an amazing ending. If you can get the DLCs get Broken Steel as you can continue with the game.
There is Operation Anchorage which gives you OP'd items at the end but the other DLCs have seperate areas. Broken Steel adds new and improved places to the default Capital Wasteland.stringtheory said:
The Vault 87 Mutants were considered mentally retarded even by the standards of the Mariposa Super Mutants.Hence why they were always evil in Fallout 3. I liked the Super Mutants from New Vegas myself, since Tabitha and Davison are both hilariously paranoid.dills2 said: