Poll: Should We let pandas become extinct?

[Ophiuchus]

I'm all for just leaving them alone. It's not up to us to play creator or destroyer. If a species can't survive on its own... well, that's nature doing what nature's best at. It'd be a different story if we were actively destroying them, but we're not.

but we are playing destroyer look at all we have done to their habitat. besides would you like to go extinct because "we are to expensive to keep around"?

P.S don't let Mr.pandah see this thread.

Regardless of their habitat, their low birth rate will see them extinct sooner or later.

As for the other bit... whether I'd like it or not is irrelevant, it'll happen anyway. The point is simply that if nature dictates that any species - including us - becomes extinct, that's just the way it is. It's extremely arrogant for us to think that it's our place to interfere with nature. The world was going on quite happily for a few billion years before humans evolved and developed the means and consciousness to interfere and it'll continue to do so for billions of years after we've all died out.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

Life must suck for these animals, they look friggen depressed every time you see them.

They're a carnivore that eats almost exclusively herbivorously. And a fairly low-nutrient weed at that.

The creature is just another victim of human development, which we now keep alive both out of guilt and so we can gawk at it. No wonder it's trying to die.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

Fuck pandas. They do nothing.

 

[Russian_Assassin]

Evolution wants them gone and we keep them alive because THEY ARE SO CUTE EEEEK!!!!!1

When an animal refuses to eat anything but one type of plant and to fuck, that's a pretty good sign it should go the way of the dinosaurs. The evolutionary tree must free some space for new species.

Spoiler: Surely MAAAAN is responsible for this!

You know, the thing is, we may have destroyed it's habitat, but did we also destroy their will to fucking live? Humans have stepped on nature like it's nobody's business for years and I don't see any other species refusing to eat and fuck!

 

[Sanglyon]

Breed them until them make suitable pets, i.e. not ripping your head off if you try to pet them, like we did with dog, cats, horses, etc... A bit of genetic enginering should fasten the process. Then, problem solved.

The French Bulldog is physically unable to procreate, because of its body shape. Both conception and birth are tricky matters for the poor fellow. But since it's a popular pet, and also because its body is the result of human manipulation in the first place, people still continue to artificially help them reproduce.

 

[Chewster]

No.

If they do die off, what what the hell will I order up as a forbidden delicacy when I'm inevitably rich and horribly corrupt?

 

[icyneesan]

We should take the remaining Giant Pandas. Separate them my major world powers. And then have fight in some sort of death combat to decide the fate of the world. Personally I think that would be a more interesting use for them instead of locking them up in a Zoo/Habitat and taking care of them.

Also, DEATH COMBAT

 

[Yopaz]

Seriously, if an animal is too lazy to reproduce then that's their problem. I like pandas, but they're doomed if they can't manage that.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

I say take a full DNA sample, semen and egg samples from all Panda's currently in captivity then release them into the wild. Then if they die out future technologies should allow us to recreate them if we want to. They are adorable but they're actively refusing to continue their own species.

From what I have read, it's about 50% habitat loss, and 50% very low birth rate. I'd rather save 10 other endagered species, as Chris Packham the naturalist said "The panda is possibly one of the grossest wastes of conservation money in the last half century"

Exactly. They aren't a particularly valuable part of the ecosystem, and they are in no way "cool" or "majestic". They have no intrinsic value to human beings. They are just big, stupid wastes of flesh that some pansy a few decades ago decided were "too cuddly wuddly" not to spend millions of dollars on their continued useless existence.

Excuse my French, but... fuck pandas. They obviously aren't going to do it themselves.

 

[Arqus_Zed]

Evolution wants them gone and we keep them alive because THEY ARE SO CUTE EEEEK!!!!!1

When an animal refuses to eat anything but one type of plant and to fuck, that's a pretty good sign it should go the way of the dinosaurs. The evolutionary tree must free some space for new species.

Spoiler: Surely MAAAAN is responsible for this!

You know, the thing is, we may have destroyed it's habitat, but did we also destroy their will to fucking live? Humans have stepped on nature like it's nobody's business for years and I don't see any other species refusing to eat and fuck!

I see you sport a troll-face as an avatar, how fitting.

Try watching some more Discovery Channel or reading a couple of National Geographic books, m'kay? There are in fact quite a few species that have some issues with their genitalia and the uses thereof because of human pollution. However, the panda one is one of the most pressing. Besides, it's harder to make people care about crocodiles than cute looking pandas.

 

[Nannernade]

Why would we do that? Without pandas what would we laugh at on Youtube?

 

[Russian_Assassin]

Try watching some more Discovery Channel or reading a couple of National Geographic books, m'kay? There are in fact quite a few species that have some issues with their genitalia and the uses thereof because of human pollution. However, the panda one is one of the most pressing. Besides, it's harder to make people care about crocodiles than cute looking pandas.

Ok, so let's disrespect other people's opinions and call them trolls! My post wasn't some objective statement. It's my view on the subject. The OP asked me, I answered. Do we really need to say IN MY OPINION every time we speak (I think Moviebob covered this notion)?

And even if humans were the cause, how do you suggest we deal with this scenario? A couple of nature loving scientists won't do shit. The people in power couldn't give less of a fuck about some animals dying, as long as it doesn't affect their profit. And guess who runs the show on this god damn planet?

If people want to save earth, we must take the power back in our hands and then we can decide the fate of the earth. Simply yelling at the politicians to help save the earth isn't going to get you anywhere.

 

[Haydyn]

Yes. It's expensive, it goes against natural selection, and quite truthfully the fact that we have world famous scientists spending their careers trying to get pandas laid is at its very core the reason there is sin in the world.

 

[GeneralChaos]

No, we shouldn't. Not because they're valuable or cute or anything. No, we should keep them alive because Nature has made it very clear that it wants them gone and since when do we listen to nature? Nature has been getting rather uppity lately and I think it's time we reminded it who's boss.
We're the Human Race, we can do whatever the hell we want. If we say that a massive evolutionary dead end will survive until the end of time, then there will be Pandas watching the heat death of the universe.

 

[bdcjacko]

If they are going extinct, they are going extinct. We can't force an animal dying off because it sucks at living.

 

[razor343]

I say we start eating them. That way they WONT become extinct and we'll make serious money off them.

 

[Owlslayer]

Well, if it up to me, I'd not let pandas become extinct, just because of their cuteness level.
And no thanks, i don't want to be quoted and shown a gross picture of a panda. Seriously. No. Don't do it. Don't even think about it.

*clears throat* Anyways, as I said, they are awesomely cute. This is already proven by some of the pics shown in this thread.

Sure, nature's a bastard and humans are cruel. But as i said, if it were up to me, there would be pandas everywhere.

Every.where. One could be right behind you, watching as you write your panda-hatemail-post. So I'd be careful if i were you, Mr./Mrs. Panda-hater.

 

[DTWolfwood]

not quite sure how they haven't gone extinct naturally. seriously, nothing about them makes any sense. slow birth rate, singular diet, solitary with giant home ranges. Pandas are a slap to Darwin's face (guess anything can exist if there isn't something to eat it or destroy their home)

But as it is our fault for causing their endangered status, it should then also be our responsibility to keep them alive or at least get them off the list as to let nature do its thing.

 

[Therumancer]

There has been a lot of money spent on keeping the Giant Panda on the Earth. Now it's likely that without humans on the planet, that they wouldn't be dying out, though they have been called an evolutionary cul-de-sac by several wildlife experts. So what i'm asking is could that money have been better spent on saving animals that can be helped?

I said "no". I say this because I actually think the Panda bear can be saved. Plenty of species of bear manage to survive and thrive fairly well in the wild despite the prescence of humans. I think the problem is the overpopulation of Asia in paticular, which doesn't quite allow for the preservation of habitats to the same extent as you see in the rest of the world.

That said, at the very least I believe we can store the eggs and sperm and repopulate them artificially at a later point.

All comments about the ecosystem and the "circle of life" and so on, there are species I think we coddle too much and probably shouldn't be saved, the Panda isn't one of them.

 

[Sanglyon]

The creature is just another victim of human development, which we now keep alive both out of guilt and so we can gawk at it. No wonder it's trying to die.

Are you still talking about panda, or about Amy Winehouse?