Poll: So, Bin Laden, you give a shit?

[Just_A_Glitch]

Not really. Killing one person isn't going to change anything, but the peace of mind that it will bring to the US people is nice.

I'm more worried Osama is going to be seen as a martyr and more attacks will be planned honestly.

CAPTCHA: the youtard

Favorite one yet.

EDIT:

I don't really care about Osama but I find it kinda sick that people are happy about his death. That's just wrong. And it's not like he's the Big Evil Boss of Terrorism upon whose death all the terrorists will magically disappear.

See, I hate this argument. People celebrated when Hitler died. Was that wrong? How's this any different?

If it continues, then yeah, there is such a thing as overkill. But for the day, to be happy that he is done, I don't blame them one bit.

 

[Kathinka]

CAPTCHA: the youtard
Favorite one yet.

i see your youtard and raise with my "university of cocks." from the other day.

sorry for oftoppic, i'll stop now^^

 

[The Common Hours]

im not gonna celebrate the death of a man, who celebrated the death of so many others. im gonna celebrate the end of the bad influence he had on others.

 

[Zaverexus]

Nope. I didn't find out until this morning and I don't see that the world has suddenly become a glorious, wonderful place full of smiling, happy people.
The people who lost their lives on 9/11 are still dead, as are those who died fighting in the Middle East, no amount of killing really changes that.
Plus, no matter who he was or what he did, I feel a bit ashamed to live in a country overjoyed to find that someone has died. I'm not saying there was any great alternative, but I don't exactly like cheering for death, and whether it was all worth it is still to be seen. Hopefully we can get all our troops back home soon... and right back into another war... great

 

[Relmfig]

I certainly give a shit, but t doesn't mean we've won anything.

This is just progress. (and closure for some)

 

[zelda2fanboy]

Just like Hitler wasn't actually responsible for the holocaust because he just organized it. By your logic no leader is actually accountable for anything.

OT: I am thrilled, straight-up. Over two-thirds of my life has been spent watching bin Laden rise to power as his attacks got more and more vicious. When I was little a group of terrorists would hijack a plane and take people hostage as collateral for political demands; all this suicide bombing and murder for murder's sake is just plain mad.

No, by my logic killing Bin Laden is more symbolic than anything else. Imagine going back in time and killing Hitler at around 1940-ish. Just Hitler. But you've still got Goebbels, Himmler, and any number of other high ranking Nazis who would have taken his place and done more or less exactly what he did, if not something worse. I would have gotten much more satisfaction had they taken him alive and brought him to trial. What's he accountable for now? Nothing because he's dead.

I just don't get how people call the actual hijackers a bunch of cowards, but treat Osama like he's a mastermind. Cowardice is making a bunch of other people do your dirty work. It's like the Manson killings. Who's worse, Charlie Manson or Susan Atkins? For my money, it's the woman who slit the throats.

 

[Dr_Baron_von_Evilsatan]

Yes I give a shit. I think it's awesome the bastard is dead. As for the "dislike people celebrating someone's death" argument I would like to point out that most of us believe he lost his status as "human" and became a monster long ago.

 

[The Night Shade]

No,I don't give a shit

 

[Drago-Morph]

Good thing he's dead, but not quite as big deal imo. It'd be a completely different thing if they'd managed to frag him like a week or month after the WTC attacks.

I'm actually pretty sure the only reason it's such a big deal is because of how elusive he was.

I don't feel like retyping my post, so I'll just reuse the one I put in another thread.

Honestly, unless you've been living here since 9/11, you can't judge us for making such a big deal out of it. In fact, you should really consider what it means as a whole, not just "Oh, this didn't stop Al'qaeda, so meh". He has been looming over this country like a damned ghost, taunting us, becoming a symbol for everything that's gone wrong. 9/11, the wars, the subsequent economic crash; the citizens, government, and media have all been tracing it back to this one guy for the past decade. And now he's dead, and now Americans feel like they can finally start to come out of this massive slump. We feel like we have closure on the war on terror and can start to really end it without thinking that we're pulling out prematurely, and then we can focus on our other problems. This man, this symbol of our nation's enemies, has been evading us for 10 years, taunting us as things have fallen apart around us. And now we've killed him. And regardless of how true it is, people think that things can start to get better now, and that is a powerful feeling.

 

[Fearzone]

They should have killed the guy 10 years ago. Then there would have been cause to celebrate.

 

[Kitteh]

I was drunk at the time. That should say it all.

 

[Roroshi14]

I don't really care as much as I did a few years ago, but now a day I don't really care. I am happy he is dead. It's a good thing, I hope. But the retaliation and inspiration it will give the rest of the Tali ban might be to much.

 

[crop52]

this doesn't change much, but i still give a shit,
i'm sure his underlings looked up to him, and his death will:

A:make everything worse as terrorist go crazy over it,
B:hurt terrorist morale,

*crossing fingers* come on B!

 

[Snake Plissken]

I'm confused...does the poll relate to the title of the thread, or to your statement in the post? In any case, yes, I give a shit and, no, I don't think it will change anything.

Perhaps you should clarify what the poll is actually polling us about.

 

[thecoreyhlltt]

i don't that it changes anything, but hey two down, one to go!
America, FUCK YEAH! coming again to save the mother fucking day-yeah. America, FUCK YEAH!! Freedom is the only way.
W00T

 

[Warforger]

I'm guessing the main reason people don't seem to care as much about his death as they would have say 10 years ago is because he and Al-Qaeda haven't really been in the news that much, in fact they've became a sort of a joke at this point, in fact I bet that before Bin Laden died the only news reports on it was members no one heard of getting killed.

The 'head' of the 'fish' has been cut off, unless a new one is put on soon then the whole 'fish' will rot. Without the analogy, if a new leader isn't found soon then al'quada will disband.

I would think Al'quada has SOME sort of hierarchy.

They probably do, but if the new head doesn't establish themselves soon then they won't have the kind of power or respect they need.

Al-Qaeda isn't a standing government, it's a loose organization that does terrorist attacks, Bin Laden wasn't a commander was much as he was a sort of say Karl Marx to Al-Qaeda if they were Communists, while he outlined their ideal's and is a figurehead, he didn't say have any direct command as in he was too valuable to risk being the central command by the time he was attacked. In fact in terms of 9/11 he didn't plan it he just gave them his approval.

 

[cthulhumythos]

while i'm not going to say something stupid like "i can rest easy now", i am going to say this: i can breath a sigh of relief. sure, he's just one guy, but we wasted hella time and money trying to kill 'em. sure it was nearly a total waste, but now that waste will (i really hope) stop. and besides, despite the fact that we're completely and utterly in there for the oil, we have one less reason to not be pissed that we're still in there. who knows, maybe this might speed up the pulling out process.

*please note that the above opinion is that of an ignorant idealist.

 

[smallthemouse]

Just because it didn't affect you directly it doesn't mean 9/11 was insignificant. For a lot of people, getting him provided at least some kind of satisfaction after ten years of seemingly pointless war.

Also I'm glad we have so many terrorism/political analysts on the escapist. How do you know what affect his death will have? Of course he is going to be a martyr to some degree, but don't you think that if terrorists could have done something, they would have done it by now, after 10 years? If President Obama were to be assassinated by a terrorist organization today, don't you think that would give Americans some pause? It's not a simple matter of "oh well someone will replace him so it doesn't matter, apathy is c00l."

 

[Grunt_Man11]

Was that moral boost worth the 14,000 to 34,00 (depending on report) civilian deaths? That is, death, end of life, nothing, nada. Was that boost worth the 7,000 + US soldiers who died?

I'm not saying it's all been for nothing, but it's a hollow victory at best. If you think a brief economic surge is going to make up for that, you're mistaken. He's dead, and it all still happened. End.

I get really tired of reading this bleeding heart argument.

Plus, bleeding heart arguments like these do more to make the deaths of all those soldiers seem in vain than anything else.

This is the leader and founder of the biggest terrorist organization, not some simple low ranking officer or something. This man was responsible for countless deaths, as well as ruining the image of an entire religion and culture.

His death is not a hollow victory, and claiming it is disrespects all those that made the ultimate sacrifice for this moment. Those they do should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Jaric93]

All I can see now is a martyr who has basicly succeeded in brainwashing an entire generation. The problem is I think he was probably a poster boy and were no nearer to stopping the source of the problem.