Poll: Stealing

[Silver]

Of course it's always wrong, in some cases it's MORE wrong not to though. It's like killing, or hurting people. It's always inherently wrong, but sometimes doing it can prevent much more violence, not doing anything in that case would also be wrong.

Of course other solutions are always better, but sometimes there are none available.

 

[Skeleon]

"Sometimes, if it doesn't seem to affect anyone directly etc."
Unless some emotional attachment is involved with the stolen object I don't think it's that bad a crime (I wouldn't be too offended if some of my money were stolen, but I'd get seriously pissed if somebody stole my pocket watch).
It's just material goods. And most people (and especially large supermarkets) are insured anyway.
Personally, I wouldn't do it for fear of getting caught and not feeling the need because I can afford what I want.
But I see little intrinsically wrong with it (it's obviously a crime but not a bad one).
It's more that our laws are screwed up when it comes to punishments for various crimes.
Or maybe I just don't care enough, I don't know.

 

[Kubanator]

I know my analogy is flawed..
I was eating dinner and wasn't really thinking about the topic.
I was more focused on pasta T.T


Anyways, I don't know if this helps, but there are sites that will do the labor for you, and are at least $500-$600 less than the market price.

I don't know a single person who couldn't build a computer with the basic necessities (there are those options on computer building) when the people from the site does the labor for you.

Basically what I'm saying is, if you won't look at this as stealing, I can't see a plausible reason this would be right though. It may be just because $700+ for labor on something with little work put into it means a lot to the average American, or maybe it's just me in general, but that's not a fair price.

Ripping off your customers has neither pride or morals <.<

A corporation exists to make money. Thus discussing the morality of a corporation is meaningless. It's like discussing the weight of red.

And every price is completely fair. To say that selling something for more than the parts are worth is stealing, would mean that the purchaser had no choice in the matter. He had to buy it. It means there was never an option not to buy it. Even if the food is overpriced, to make your analogy work, he wouldn't be allowed to starve to death. He would be given the food and the money would be forcibly taken away from him.

And no. Stealing is not justified. The reason you have less than another man is because he is more capable at working than you are. To say that you deserve something through no work is wrong.

 

[faceless chick]

I voted for never, because it's wrong (though i have done it myself a couple of times, way to shoot my own foot. Also I did it for revenge once,so I don't feel bad about it)

However, I wouldn't go for (the extreme) other. For the very poor I guess it is kinda the only option sometimes, but for the average, working citizen, it should be a never.

Petty theft isn't that much, but when it gets serious, it can cause untold damage.
Believe me, here, theft is an art.

Gypsies have stolen helicopters, trains, and even bridges(!) to sell for scrap metal.

 

[chinese_democracy]

*snip

I would say that stealing is only acceptable under certain conditions. The only things I can think of are the pre-agreed upon circumstances like starvation and whatnot. However, stealing essentials almost never happens. When is the last time you heard about people going to jail for stealing food? It doesn't happen or at least if it does it's usually based on other factors like making a social example. People steal things they don't need like cars, tvs, pirated movies or whatever. I think stealing fills a predatory instinct apparent in all of us like a quasi game-hunt of sorts.

 

[Blindrooster]

Its the popo!!!

 

[Mcface]

Stealing from large chain stores owned by corporations is fine.
It's all over priced junk anyway.

But when you start stealing from the common working guy, its just wrong.

My point of view at least.

 

[USSR]

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For the record, no point in here did I ever try to justify stealing.
It is wrong an immoral.
So is ripping off someone.
One of the definitions of the damned term is theft. Just not illegal stealing.
Not in one way is Microsoft, Walmart, Apple, etc.. doing anything illegal, but it is completely immoral to do so. They can make the same money at the same rate if the prices were lowered.

More people would buy the products at a faster rate, maybe even causing more money then they earned before.

Oh, and just because I don't wish to spend an extra $700 doesn't mean I don't have the extra $700.

 

[Taneer]

The point at which you hit a gray patch is when people are stealing something like baby food.

Think that over.

 

[oppp7]

Only if you or someone else is dying. Otherwise no, it's amoral.

 

[Random Argument Man]

I think it's ok until you get caught.

Some Random dude: But what if you're the one being stolen?

Me: It will be ok until I realize I've been stolen. After that, it will be less ok when I discover who stoled me.

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

The only stealing I condone is music over the internet.

 

[IncindiaryPickle]

It's really dependant on the conditions at hand. If I'm starving, or whatever I'm stealing is significant only to me and I can get away with it easily-sure. In my opinion, morals are overrated in most situations.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

To quote Abbie Hoffman:

"To steal from a brother or sister is evil. To not steal from the institutions that are the pillars of the Pig Empire is equally immoral."

To put it in my own words- stealing from giant corporations is moral in my mind, although still not entirely advisable as it might get you arrested.

 

[Hyperactiveman]

"Only ever if certain conditions are met"

For example: you don't get caught lol!

 

[Xyphon]

In certain situations I don't look down on it. Say you just got hit by a natural disaster like a hurricane and you have lost EVERYTHING that you once had and you have a 2 year old child with you. You have two choices.

A: Go to the closest store and get something for you and your child.

B: Watch as both you and your child starve to death.

Now thefts such as people looting electronic stores and staling plasma TV's while the whole fucking place is flooded with water is just dumb.

 

[InfernoJesus]

In Canada, we have a welfare system so Canadian citizen will ever "starve". The argument that people have to support families is moot because they made the decision to have children. It is not their right to make their decisions problems for others.

If they are unable to support children, they shouldn't have children. There are also plenty of job opportunities and any english-speaking citizen should be able to find a job that will at least pay for a small apartment for themselves.

There is no reason for theft.

 

[quiet_samurai]

I only steal if I have something to gain from it.
Or for reasons of revenge.

Stealing is fun.

 

[Azraellod]

I really hate thieves. Because of repeated encounters with them in the past, I now rank them as some of the worst scum of society.

In some cases stealing can be understandable, but if whoever it was was entitled to my sympathy before, generally they lose it when they start to steal things. Unless there is a very good reason, I just stop caring about them.