Poll: Striking a woman

[TheRightToArmBears]

Well, like most people (I hope), only in self defence, the same as if I were to hit a guy. I guess I might be a little less likely to hit a girl in jest, because they tend to be (this is out of the girls I know, don't shout at me for being sexist) a little more delicate. Besides, I don't have as many female friends that I'm close enough with to playfight with.

As for your situation? Whilst I don't necessarily think you getting involved in the first place was wrong, I think your retaliation was ridiculously over the top. He pushed you, so you hit him three times, leaving him gasping for air? How is that possibly sensible, and can you blame her for attacking you because of it? In that situation I don't really know if hitting her was right, you shouldn't have got yourself into that situation anyway.

 

[Risingblade]

Not hitting her would be sexist and sexism is wrong.

 

[blackrave]

You should never have intervened. You had been drinking, you admit you were pumped up from your martial training, it was a bad, bad decision.
If you really worried about the woman you ask HER if she is ok, and if you still worry she is not you call the police. You don't decide to by Mr. Vigilante and teach someone a lesson yourself, that is illegal and morally wrong.

The world needs less drunken tough guys wandering the streets beating people up and slapping their girlfriend like you.

I'm not sure that you're serious or not.
But let's pretend that you are serious.

I wasn't drunk, but they might have been (10.30PM and near a bar- high chances, and his punch was a bit slow)
Also I was asking both of them

But retroactively I admit that I should have left them after he said to me to get lost (and after that call the cops)
At that moment it seemed cowards choice.
Like I said it wasn't perfect resolution (especially when it backfired).

P.S. Now that I think about that, I lived 2 years in that apartment and never visited that bar. On the other hand I've never visited a strip club that was few blocks further, so maybe it isn't strange at all

 

[blackrave]

I am 100% serious. I don't want to come down hard on you, you sound like you thought you were doing a good thing but you were not. All that happened is that you inserted yourself into a private squabble between a couple and assualted two people, a man and a woman. I know from your point of view you were just trying to help but that is not how it played out and why you should call police rather than try and play the role of the police.

If she was screaming for help that is one thing, but if she is arguing right back at him then why assume she needs your help? Did she ask for it? Did you ask her first? Or did you just assume, step in and try and play the hero?

I know these are hard questions to hear but look at the results. It sounds like you know it wasn't the right thing to do.

Well they argued, then he slapped her and pushed her into wall
And I'm pretty sure it wasn't some form of romantic courting
I don't know what he or she did
I don't even remember anymore what they were arguing about
All I know that when he pushed her, I approached and asked them are there any problems
she said nothing, he started to insult me, the when I returned insult, he attacked me, I counterattacked him with better results
That's how it went.
Like I previously said couple of times I shouldn't slap her, but restrain her
And I should have called the police afterwards
These are 2 main mistakes I did in that situation
But I don't think that asking arguing/fighting couple about what was happening was wrong
And I personally don't think that not accepting insults was wrong

 

[The Lunatic]

While I'm never physically violent to anyone (For a long time.), I see no reason gender should affect my judgement to be so.

 

[Legion]

We certainly haven't had this thread a thousand times.

I'll say what I say in every one of them.
`I don't think hitting a person of either gender is acceptable except if it is absolutely necessary. And now I will get out of this thread before the pent up dudes who get really excited about the idea of smacking women come along`.

You put it better than I did.
I'm surprised the 'If they want equality, I have to be able to punch them in the face' crowd haven't shown up yet.

Perhaps you two ought to read the OP.

They didn't actually ask a general question of whether or not it is okay. They described a specific scenario and asked our opinions on it.

 

[Flames66]

The most interesting part started after that
Next thing I realized was that someone was hitting me from behind
That girl was scratching, slapping and kicking me
When I asked her to stop, he screamed something incoherent alongside to leave him alone (and continued to attack me)
Since she looked like in panic, I decided that dialogue is useless, and slapped her to make sure he stops endanger us both.
After that I said that they both deserve each other and left.

I would have done more than slap her at that point. I think hitting a woman is appropriate in all the same circumstances it is with a man. If A woman were to attack me would defend myself in whatever way I deemed necessary at the time.

 

[Lonewolfm16]

I generally advocate peace towards both males and females but if someone attempts to do me physical harm I will respond with physical force to stop them, gender is irrelavant. Treat men and women equally... and be peaceful towards both whenever possible. Seriously the never hit a girl thing is a left-over from a age where women were viewed as delicate useless flowers that needed protection, I have far more respect for women than that. Respect enough to view them as human beings equal to men and therefore deserving of the same treatment.

 

[Reaper195]

I next to never hit people unless they really piss me off. And that is incredibly hard to do, since I never bother to take anything personal or serious (Doing so saves sooo much bullshit). But if someone does do something utterly unbearable (Nothing really comes to mind at the moment), I'll hit them, gender irrelevant.

In fact...isn't it sexist to think it's okay to hit a man, but not a woman? Thinking she won't be able to handle the punch as much as a man?





*Sits back, watches flames begin*

 

[Phasmal]

Perhaps you two ought to read the OP.

They didn't actually ask a general question of whether or not it is okay. They described a specific scenario and asked our opinions on it.

People are still answering generally and my original statement can be easily applied to the OP anyway.

 

[ToxicOranges]

Gender makes no difference to me whatsoever. You want equality? Stop spotting gender.

Having said that, I don't really hit people, ever.

 

[The Hero Killer]

No one should hit anyone for no reason, but I will say this... If they would cant be equal in a way where I could hit a woman in the same way I would a man for any reason they they shouldnt be equal in anything. Its all or nothing.

I dont like double standards and I've seen plenty of times where women get in mens faces asking to get hit then cry like a baby when they do it.

 

[Wolf In A Bear Suit]

Generally I'd probably prefer to tackle them rather than straight up hit them if their isn't a chance of them hitting me. If they really are trying to hit me, I have no choice. This goes for men and women, but in your case the woman didn't seem to be doing much damage so maybe no need to hit her, (granted it was only a slap) the guy however had intent to really hit you so your actions were definatly justified

 

[Stu35]

I explained that there is no need to get physical and suggested him to calm down
Then he pushed me again, called me a fag and asked what will I do.
Then I once more explained that I will not tolerate such behavior further from excuse of human being.
Then he attempted to punch me, I counterattacked him with 3 hit combo that left him on the ground gasping for air.

Seems legit.

My thoughts exactly. I especially like the phrase "3 hit combo".

Internet ten-men aside.

If you're in danger, then you absolutrly should. Nothing more to say really.

Also. This.

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

Male. Voted yes, within reason.

If someone is physically aggressive toward me, I'm going to respond with equal force. I don't care if you're male or female, it doesn't matter. No one should get a free-pass to hurt people.

 

[Valnyan]

Sounds like you did right to me. Nobody was seriously hurt and you probably stopped them from beating each other to a pulp.

As for the poll I answered the physical danger one. I've been in many fights with girls and women, lost quite a few too. And just because they don't look like they eat steroids for breakfast doesn't mean they're not dangerous. Damn they have a good left hook. I still have a light creak in my jaw after one of them got me.

Male here.

That. And I'm done reading this stupid thread right there. Special mention to Azure-Supernova too. Congratulation for having common sense, it's not that common.

Yet, I will still comment on that whole "hitting a woman" mess.

Boys, it's time to turn your TV off, it's time to stop learning life via internet, it's time to get some experience out there and realising we're not in a video game.

A real fight in real life is not tekken, there is no combos, martial arts doesn't make you an untouchable god in a brawl.

That being said ... women ... sorry to break it to you all, but women aren't etheral being unable to hit you, they are not bound to a "different ruleset" that makes any attempt of "PvP" from a woman to a man "deal zero damage". Like a lot of peoples here pretends. If a woman punches you, no matter how tall and muscular you are it WILL hurt you. If she's assaulting you with a weapon, she will injure you.

It's just retarded to think a woman can't never hurt a man. (As Azure-Supernova said, if thay were the case, then you should not even try to defend yourself against anyone smaller than you.)

Also, I laugh at peoples saying you should always ressort to restraining a girl, removing any weapon from her and calm her. Because, as a man, you have that tremendous advantage against any woman on earth : you can engage PvP against them but they are powerless to engage PvP with you, right ?

No, it's retarded to think this and will get you hurt the day you'll try to use the experience you aquired on internet and tekken.

And, just another little thing I see mentionned a lot in this thread. "Grab her by the wrist". Because everyone knows a woman has a power button, and it's on her wrist, if you grab it she just shuts down and becomes a lifeless doll !
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StandardFemaleGrabArea

 

[Evil Smurf]

I am a pacifist, however in BDSM striking a woman is okay.

 

[Beffudled Sheep_v1legacy]

Sounds like you did right to me. Nobody was seriously hurt and you probably stopped them from beating each other to a pulp.

As for the poll I answered the physical danger one. I've been in many fights with girls and women, lost quite a few too. And just because they don't look like they eat steroids for breakfast doesn't mean they're not dangerous. Damn they have a good left hook. I still have a light creak in my jaw after one of them got me.

Male here.

That. And I'm done reading this stupid thread right there. Special mention to Azure-Supernova too. Congratulation for having common sense, it's not that common.

Yet, I will still comment on that whole "hitting a woman" mess.

Boys, it's time to turn your TV off, it's time to stop learning life via internet, it's time to get some experience out there and realising we're not in a video game.

A real fight in real life is not tekken, there is no combos, martial arts doesn't make you an untouchable god in a brawl.

That being said ... women ... sorry to break it to you all, but women aren't etheral being unable to hit you, they are not bound to a "different ruleset" that makes any attempt of "PvP" from a woman to a man "deal zero damage". Like a lot of peoples here pretends. If a woman punches you, no matter how tall and muscular you are it WILL hurt you. If she's assaulting you with a weapon, she will injure you.

It's just retarded to think a woman can't never hurt a man. (As Azure-Supernova said, if thay were the case, then you should not even try to defend yourself against anyone smaller than you.)

Also, I laugh at peoples saying you should always ressort to restraining a girl, removing any weapon from her and calm her. Because, as a man, you have that tremendous advantage against any woman on earth : you can engage PvP against them but they are powerless to engage PvP with you, right ?

No, it's retarded to think this and will get you hurt the day you'll try to use the experience you aquired on internet and tekken.

And, just another little thing I see mentionned a lot in this thread. "Grab her by the wrist". Because everyone knows a woman has a power button, and it's on her wrist, if you grab it she just shuts down and becomes a lifeless doll !
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StandardFemaleGrabArea

Thank you
But one day some of these people will get into a real fight with a real woman and a lot of them will probably be hurt. At least they'll learn.

 

[Twilight_guy]

I believe in equality. That means' I'd strike a woman in the same situations I'd strike a man. Which is probably never. However, I don't care what set of naughty bits you have if I'm in a situation where I need to hit someone, I'm hitting him or her.

 

[Alexnader]

I don't think it's okay to hit anyone. I think you should have established whether the woman actually wanted help before you engaged the man. It's impossible to help someone who doesn't want to be helped. I also believe that it's better to subdue someone without striking them. It's no big deal though. You were only trying to do the right thing and in the end I'm presuming no one was permanently injured.

I'm just imagining someone watching a person being hit and ignoring it because they didn't want to be rude and interrupt someone's argument by asking what's going on. Sure, it may be difficult to help someone who doesn't want help however there's nothing wrong with interrupting a fight like that one provided you're confident of your own safety. If people are involved in violence they have no right to be offended if people intervene, especially if they're in public.