Lord Kloo said:
A) who the hell carries a revolver (with hollow point and a laser sight he must think hes a hit man or something..) going out on a late night run..? And its was a concealed weapon, who other than the police and the army carry licenses for a pistol and to also conceal it..?
B) who goes out on late night runs, just ludicrous..
C) if you have a license for said concealed gun then why isn't he trained to use it properly and knee-cap his attacker instead of shooting them, 4 times, in the chest..
D) these muggers were unarmed and posed a seriously limited effect to his life and so fatal force was unnecessary.
E) also carrying $500 in cash whilst on a run.. this seems extremely fishy to me, more fishy than fishy, McFish..
F) death is not a suitable punishment for battery, if it was then the death rate by state execution would amount to something like several hundred thousand per year whereas its only about 100 or more currently..
Overall, stupid that people are allowed to go around carrying guns like that and also that he has been let off for murder (or at least manslaughter) he has intent to harm and possibly kill and also he has killed someone so I would charge him guilty of manslaughter.. or at least if it had been in the UK that would have been the verdict.
It is the mail though so they probably over exaggerated the information..
EDIT: also soldiers, are always told to inform any civilians that they will open fire if said civilian does not surrender. Kinda proves that no-one outside of law-enforcement and the army should be allowed a gun, and these groups having guns is debatable as well..
A)Depends. I certainly wouldn't carry a gun with me on a late-night run, but that's my mentality. Baker's mentality is most likely different from mine and since he had a permit to carry, he's perfectly within his rights to carry a weapon so long as he doesn't bring it on premises where guns are clearly banned.
B)Lots of people do. It's rather asinine of you to assume that just because you don't or just because people you know don't. That's the only reason I can think of of why you think people wouldn't go jogging at night. Hell, I live in Minnesota. People go jogging all the time even when it's below freezing. Just a simple nighttime would be cake walk for them.
C) If I was being mugged, I wouldn't exactly think "Only one or two shots will get the job done." No, I would worried for my life and I would protect myself. Now, this guy fired eight times. He only managed to hit him four in close range after being punched in the face. Getting punched in the face doesn't exactly help your thinking or your aim now, does it? This guy was outnumbered and has reasonable evidence to assume he was in danger when he got punched in the face and when two people were trying to mug him.
D) Except we know they were unarmed
now after it was all said and done. Baker even stated that he didn't know they were unarmed. Now, he could be lying, but, again, after getting punched in the face by two assailants who wanted to mug me, I would probably assume that they're armed, too.
E) Yeah, I'll give you that point. Very fishy, indeed.
F) Another point I'll give you, but, hey, they chose to mug him and they faced the consequences of that. Now, state-executions shouldn't be done for battery, but this isn't the state. This was a jogger who had reasonable amount of evidence to use self-defense. Two different things. (And it'd be more expensive than just chucking them in prison, too!)
The rest of this, I won't even address, as you're English and I can tell you're a supporter of gun control. Gun control isn't the subject to debate here, Lord Kloo.
