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Ago Iterum

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Anyone british will, unless they have been living in a cave, have heard about the recent controversy regarding Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross.

For those that aren't aware, The two were on Brand's radio show a couple of weeks ago, and were scheduled to have Andrew Sachs, of 'Faulty Towers' fame on the show for an interview. When he didn't arrive, they phoned him on air, to find out where he was. They got his answer machine, and what started as an inquiry to his location, ended with Ross shouting 'Russell Fucked your daughter' down the phone.

From then on they carried on saying some SLIGHTLY out of line things to the 70+ year old via answer machine messages. I say SLIGHTLY out of line, because the comment about Brand having sex with Sachs' daughter was true.

Initially, there were only a few complaints. They were off people listening to the show. When the story reached the papers, the next day, in the Mail on Sunday, all hell broke loose, and thousands of complaints flooded in. The Sunday paper didn't specify too much on what the two comedians said, only exaggerating the offence it caused. The people who complained didn't even know what was said in the first place.

In the end, Russell quit the BBC, and Ross has been suspended for 5 weeks. Surely an explaination and a heart-felt apology would have done, and what about the network that broadcast the show? It was pre-recorded, so the BBC should've edited it out.

Now, the BBC are being closely watched by Ofcom. They are making sure not to set one foot out of line. A good thing, yes? No. It's taking all the freedom out of broadcasting. They have recently cancelled a popular bbcTHREE show, called 'Coming of Age', due to its adult content. This, a show broadcast at half past 10 at night, a whole hour and a half past the watershed. It's been taken away with no explaination whatsoever, but it's clearly in fear of more complaints.

And now, to top it all off, Jeremy Clarksons 'There's so much to think about while driving a truck, change gear, change gear, change gear, check mirrors, change gear, kill a prostitute' comment has sparked more rows, and he is facing suspension.

Shouldn't the BBC sort out their own programming!? And take some responsibility? And is this Extremely PC world gone crazy?! Your opinions, please :) x
 

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sv93 said:
There should be a yes and no option. The second "if i dont like it, everyone should suffer" seems a bit harsh.
Agreed.

It's a skewed poll that implies one answer is right and the other is wrong- yes an no will suffice.
 

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sv93 said:
There should be a yes and no option. The second "if i dont like it, everyone should suffer" seems a bit harsh.
It seems slightly harsh, maybe. But that's to show my dislike for those who ruin other peoples fun via the afformentioned process. I'll add a simple 'yes' option when somebody gives me a good, valid reason why they should spitefully do this.

*EDIT* After two complaints, I added a conditional YES option. I gave into complaints too easily.. Just like the BBC.
 

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I would agree on a certain thing that I would think is important, but if not I would just let people think what they want.
 

Jamanticus

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Yes, I agree with sv93...

I mean, suppressing yourself just to go with the 'people at large' is not a healthy thing.
 

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Sure, obviously, I complained to my place of work recently, because they forgot to pay me... But that's different. If it was something I didn't quite agree with, that I saw on telly, like a TV show for example, I would just turn the telly over and forget about it. Live and let live.
 

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Complaining is OK, when you have something valid to complain about. Here is a list of popular things I complain about:

-Disney music
-The Twilight book series
-Soulja Boy
-Halo games

All are very popular, and all have very valid reasons to complain about. Yes, there are time when people complain about nothing, as gamers, we know this all too well, but just because something is popular doesn't mean people don't have a right to complain.
 

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I complain about popular things I don't like, but I don't yell it from the rooftops, only to my friends or when it is the topic of conversation.
Say for example, how I hate Gears of War, but tons of people like it, I complain about why people like it when I find it to be a very mediocre shooter, but only to my friends or when in comes up.
 

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Of course it is. I already started complaining about the Watchmen movie.
 

Ago Iterum

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Yeah, of course I do complain informally. It's not even really complaining, it's just slating it. I'd just mention to my friend how much aformentioned thing sucks. But if I saw something I didn't like, I wouldn't write a letter, and dedicate the following months to campaigning and trying to get the thing pulled.

Freedom of speech is a two way thing. You can't have everything you want, because everybody has different preferences.
 
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...still trying to get Fox News pulled. Seriously though, if you are self righteous enough to believe you can tell people what they should or shouldn't be watching then you need a good hard kick.
 

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Monkeyman8 said:
I live by the moto "fuck the majority". but that's only cause the majority is retarded.
Well said, Monkeyman8. Unfortunately their retardedness makes them a lot of money and happiness and helps them live twice as long as people have for thousands of years.

They drive me nuts too, but I'm forced to admit that they're only that way because it works.

It hurts to type that. So unfair. Time for death metal and cutting, I guess.
 

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Ago Iterum said:
Yeah, of course I do complain informally. It's not even really complaining, it's just slating it. I'd just mention to my friend how much aformentioned thing sucks. But if I saw something I didn't like, I wouldn't write a letter, and dedicate the following months to campaigning and trying to get the thing pulled.

Freedom of speech is a two way thing. You can't have everything you want, because everybody has different preferences.
This is from an online dictionary:

Complaining:
1.To express feelings of pain, dissatisfaction, or resentment.
2.To make a formal accusation or bring a formal charge.

Even if you are stating a fact, complain is still complaining. I realize some people take it overboard, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're doing it just to piss everybody off (not everyone is a troll), some people just need to vent their anger at something they really didn't like, so they complain about it.
 

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You sir, JinxyKatte, should have a medal. You're one of the only people so far who's fully understood what I'm saying with the whole 'live and let live thing'.
 

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Ago Iterum said:
You sir, JinxyKatte, should have a medal. You're one of the only people so far who's fully understood what I'm saying with the whole 'live and let live thing'.
I understand what you're trying to say. Yes, people complain for bull shit reasons. yes, people do go over board with complaining, but that doesn't make complaining entirely bad. Let's say there was a large group of people that loved destroying other peoples cars, and thought it was really fun. Would you complain, or would you not want to "spoil their fun"?

Edit: Better if changed that.
 

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rottenbutter said:
Ago Iterum said:
You sir, JinxyKatte, should have a medal. You're one of the only people so far who's fully understood what I'm saying with the whole 'live and let live thing'.
I understand what you're trying to say. Yes, people complain for bull shit reasons. yes, people do go over board with complaining, but that doesn't make complaining entirely bad. Let's say there was a large group of people that loved destroying peoples cars, and thought it was really fun. Would you complain, or would you not want to "spoil their fun"?
Haha. As much as your original unedited 'baby' comment made me laugh, I have mentioned that it's people who complain formally over trivial things like things they don't like on TV that should just not partake.
 

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Ago Iterum said:
rottenbutter said:
Ago Iterum said:
You sir, JinxyKatte, should have a medal. You're one of the only people so far who's fully understood what I'm saying with the whole 'live and let live thing'.
I understand what you're trying to say. Yes, people complain for bull shit reasons. yes, people do go over board with complaining, but that doesn't make complaining entirely bad. Let's say there was a large group of people that loved destroying peoples cars, and thought it was really fun. Would you complain, or would you not want to "spoil their fun"?
Haha. As much as your original unedited 'baby' comment made me laugh, I have mentioned that it's people who complain formally over trivial things like things they don't like on TV that should just not partake.
On that note, I agree with you.
 

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Just so you know, the second If I don't like it, everyone should suffer person is me.
I just saw the most evil sounding choice and went for it.
Sometimes complaints are completely necessary if it's something which will actually cause emotional stress.
But other times it's just stupid.
My examples of when it is just plain retarded to complain.

1) Cookie Monster. He was awesome, why did he need to change? Whoever it was that complained about him. Know that I have nothing but the purest hatred for you and everyone that thinks like you.

2) Winnie the Pooh. Also super awesome. Then someone decided that A.A.Milne must have been a sneaky pedophile, since his books all depict a bear waiting in the woods for a little boy. Now Christopher Robin is a girl. Eeyore, it was decided, was far too emo for his own good, so now he runs around on happy pills. His depression was part of what made me love Eeyore. Why must they soil my childhood memories so?

3) Spongebob. After meticulously watching a cartoon where A sponge and a starfish raise a baby clam as their own. someone with a big hat came to the conclusion that spongebob is homosexual, and we obviously can't have children thinking that being homosexual is okay. So the episode in question was banned in America (enjoy your land of the free)

Huh, that came off as rather more angry than I anticipated. I guess I care more about this than I thought.
 

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rottenbutter said:
Ago Iterum said:
rottenbutter said:
Ago Iterum said:
You sir, JinxyKatte, should have a medal. You're one of the only people so far who's fully understood what I'm saying with the whole 'live and let live thing'.
I understand what you're trying to say. Yes, people complain for bull shit reasons. yes, people do go over board with complaining, but that doesn't make complaining entirely bad. Let's say there was a large group of people that loved destroying peoples cars, and thought it was really fun. Would you complain, or would you not want to "spoil their fun"?
Haha. As much as your original unedited 'baby' comment made me laugh, I have mentioned that it's people who complain formally over trivial things like things they don't like on TV that should just not partake.
On that note, I agree with you.
Now I have a crack squad of believers, I propose we write a letter to these letter writers, and complain about their letter writing complaining ways..
 

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I complained against the lack of R rating for videogames in this armpit of a country to several politicians. Millions of parents are all for the banning of decent videogames, as it makes it easier for them to neglect their children.