Poll: The Effectiveness of Boycotting: EA/ME3 Edition

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BreakfastMan

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I pre-ordered ME3 without the DLC. I enjoyed myself greatly, and do not regret my purchase. I was also not boycotting the game either. I can't say I approve of EA's business practices all the time, but nothing they were doing with ME3 struck me as particularly offensive, so I got it.
 

Danzavare

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I think that knowing the less than ideal ending and the fact I'd have to purchase DLC to get 'the complete' experience I'm waiting to buy it from the bargain bin. I wouldn't swear off a game I wanted completely, but I generally don't have a problem with just waiting to buy it. The company will still profit from me but much less than they could have. Still, my choice is more personal than it is about making a big statement.

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Sexy Devil

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I bought ME3, and eventually cracked and bought From Ashes. However, even though I paid for the DLC, my Origin crashed just as the payment was processing and EA got the money but never gave me the DLC. I contacted customer service and they basically just told me to get fucked and deal with it. Thankfully Paypal sorted it out.

Anyway that was the catalyst in my growing hatred for EA and I then vowed to never buy another of their products.
 

Bradeck

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I honestly believe if Hitler, Joseph Kony, Osama Bin Laden, and George Bush got together, and made Mass Effect 4, people would play it, but it first day, and THEN ***** about it online. The gamer community has ZERO backbone. That's why EA, Activision, and Blizzard are all so popular, because they know we will buy whatever shit they put in front of us. We're like the beaten house wife who keeps coming back to the drug dealer boyfriend, for more meth.
 

malestrithe

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I did not buy the game because I had little interest in the series. Sorry, but Bioware has made one game since 1996. They do it well, but making one game over and over again is not innovation. It's lazy.

I would have given the series a chance, but I discovered that you need to play all the missions in a preferred order if you want to see the Best ending possible for ME3. From what I remember from the strategy guide, you need to play your game in a certain set path, completing all side missions at their proper points and at the appropriate levels and not skip a one. This set path needs to be followed from the first game and it includes all DLC released.

If this desired path is not saved on your computer or your 360, you are going to get the default middle path. If you had to replace your hard drives, you will get the default ending. If you have a ps3, you are not seeing the best ending and you can't do the right path by the motion comic.

That irks me a lot. I do not mind strict linearity, but if your selling point is choose your own adventure, you should not do that.
 

Lunar Templar

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how do i re-act to ME3's release?

with a resounding 'meh'

it didn't start pissing me off till people would shut up about the shit ending like it some how matter when weighed against the OTHER shit endings we've had to deal with for the last
three
fucking
decades, we've been gaming
-.-

plus it has origin glued to it, and I'd rather melt my PC into a puddle with a pocket lighter then willing let spyware like that on my hard drive
 

pure.Wasted

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malestrithe said:
I did not buy the game because I had little interest in the series. Sorry, but Bioware has made one game since 1996. They do it well, but making one game over and over again is not innovation. It's lazy.

I would have given the series a chance, but I discovered that you need to play all the missions in a preferred order if you want to see the Best ending possible for ME3. From what I remember from the strategy guide, you need to play your game in a certain set path, completing all side missions at their proper points and at the appropriate levels and not skip a one. This set path needs to be followed from the first game and it includes all DLC released.

If this desired path is not saved on your computer or your 360, you are going to get the default middle path. If you had to replace your hard drives, you will get the default ending. If you have a ps3, you are not seeing the best ending and you can't do the right path by the motion comic.

That irks me a lot. I do not mind strict linearity, but if your selling point is choose your own adventure, you should not do that.
The ending they're talking about is virtually identical to every other ending, with one EVER SO TINY difference. First of all, it's simply not a big deal. They're not screwing you out of anything by making this one tough to get. You can easily skip it and play the game however you wanted to without worrying.

Second, it's really not that different from any choice/consequence system. If you go in thinking "I want character X to survive no matter what" and approach it from that outcome, looking up every guide, then yeah it's going to feel like they're restricting your options. But what's also an option is simply playing the game, and if the characters dies, so be it. If you didn't get that particular ending with 1 second of extra content, so be it.
 

Vault101

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Don't worry, that's not the right symptoms. Now if you feel the need to sneak into people's houses at night and tell them about indoctrination theory...
I don't do that....

I go out on weekends, dress up all formal like.... and go door knocking "hey there, have you heard the truth of Indoctrination theory?"

Eddie the head said:
What's strange about that? Blood is good.
[i/] yes...fellow night seeker, we are the few who live in the shadows, who dare to seek out those who are unworthy of life..to have the power to take life-[/i]

whoa....I have no Idea where that came from..I really have to get this thing checked out
 

AbstractStream

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I had pre-ordered the Collector's Edition, but due to some glitch in Gamestop's system, my order showed up as the standard one instead. They apparently couldn't give out extra Collector's Editions so I sucked it up and stayed with the standard edition and bought the From Ashes DLC along with.

I ended up saving around $20, so I'm kind of glad I didn't get the CE anyway.

No regrets in buying the DLC or game. Javik was worth it.
 

Eddie the head

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Vault101 said:
[i/] yes...fellow night seeker, we are the few who live in the shadows, who dare to seek out those who are unworthy of life..to have the power to take life-[/i]

whoa....I have no Idea where that came from..I really have to get this thing checked out
No no no just wait two more weeks I will swear you will be fine. Just remember two weeks and you might want to avoid hallowed ground as well.
 

ReinWeisserRitter

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I didn't buy Mass Effect 3 because I find the series excessively boring and its developers tired and formulaic.

EA's poor business practices don't help its cause, though. If I did give half a damn about the series, I wouldn't play this game because I don't agree with the way EA does business or the way it treats its customers; no video game is worth sacrificing one's freaking morality for.

Also, I'm sure the ending isn't any more stupid or inane than any other video game's; developers have never been good at telling a story through this medium.
 

malestrithe

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pure.Wasted said:
The ending they're talking about is virtually identical to every other ending, with one EVER SO TINY difference. First of all, it's simply not a big deal. They're not screwing you out of anything by making this one tough to get. You can easily skip it and play the game however you wanted to without worrying.

Second, it's really not that different from any choice/consequence system. If you go in thinking "I want character X to survive no matter what" and approach it from that outcome, looking up every guide, then yeah it's going to feel like they're restricting your options. But what's also an option is simply playing the game, and if the characters dies, so be it. If you didn't get that particular ending with 1 second of extra content, so be it.
I understand that. It just bugs me to know that such an ideal path exists in a choice system game. What if I liked that character? I should not have to tow an rigidly defined line to make sure he or she lives at end game. I do not play these games for my avatar. He is a generic slate that I cannot stand to be around in most situations. I tend to play because there is some NPC I genuinely like to be around.

The last time I saw something like this is in the Valkyrie Profile series. B ending is default and you get just for playing the game. C ending you get for not doing anything. A ending requires a ton more work. It's often worth the effort, but it's requires too many exacting steps and is still a pain.
 

Ed130 The Vanguard

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Wasn't going to buy it due to Origin.

Definitely wasn't going to buy it due to the sheer amount of DLC avalible just after launch.

Laughed at the people unable to recognise a pattern involving the words "EA" and beloved game developers.

Watched ensuring fire-storm rage across the internet.

Felt very smug with myself.


So while me not buying Mass Effect 3 didn't do diddly against EA, it did save me $100+ NZD and let my Shepard's stories end with a high note rather than a red/green/blue one.
 

solemnwar

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I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition, so...

Which didn't come with the DLC on the disc already, btw, for people who were saying such: we got a little card with a code to download it through origin. No on-disc DLC on there. I only say this because people still seem to think that's the case...
 

Darthbawls77

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Pre ordered and got first day and bought the dlc. I have to say I really had fun with this game and loved the new fighting mechanics, so much smoother. The prothean dlc was kinda weak in my opinion, just didnt have very much meat of them bones but the character himself was pretty cool although I wish he was more active and talked more. The ending I have to say wasnt as deep as I wanted but besides that had no major issue with it. After watching some indoctranation theory vidoes I have to say I like the ending a whole lot more now with my new insight althought I realize its just a theory but I like how it sounds. Very interested in the dlc ending expansion to see what really went down I guess. Also just to note the multiplayer is really fun. Im having a great time fighting as a tech Quarian and solider Turian and fish guy adept lol.
 

Windcaler

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I boycotted and am still boycotting the game for two reasons. The first being that the PC version required origin to run and I will not install that spyware on my machine. The reasons for that are several but I do work on this machine, and I do a lot of personal creative projects like art and writing. All of which I tend not to share with others and dont want shared on any level without my permission

The day 1 DLC is the other reason I wouldnt buy ME3. Theres just no way a company can justify day 1 dlc or disk locked content

So yeah, count me in the still boycotting group. Im sure there arent many of us
 

DustyDrB

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I preordered the collector's edition last July (Yes. July). I loved the game overall.

Though I have a question for other CE owners: are the discs really freaking hard to get out of the case? It's a desperate struggle for me. I just try not to break them.
 

Bat Vader

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I purchases the Mass Effect 3 Collector's Edition. While the ending was not what I expected I still enjoyed the game. I enjoyed the combat and the characters. I think it was flawed in some areas but overall was a good game.
 

pure.Wasted

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malestrithe said:
pure.Wasted said:
The ending they're talking about is virtually identical to every other ending, with one EVER SO TINY difference. First of all, it's simply not a big deal. They're not screwing you out of anything by making this one tough to get. You can easily skip it and play the game however you wanted to without worrying.

Second, it's really not that different from any choice/consequence system. If you go in thinking "I want character X to survive no matter what" and approach it from that outcome, looking up every guide, then yeah it's going to feel like they're restricting your options. But what's also an option is simply playing the game, and if the characters dies, so be it. If you didn't get that particular ending with 1 second of extra content, so be it.
I understand that. It just bugs me to know that such an ideal path exists in a choice system game. What if I liked that character? I should not have to tow an rigidly defined line to make sure he or she lives at end game. I do not play these games for my avatar. He is a generic slate that I cannot stand to be around in most situations. I tend to play because there is some NPC I genuinely like to be around.

The last time I saw something like this is in the Valkyrie Profile series. B ending is default and you get just for playing the game. C ending you get for not doing anything. A ending requires a ton more work. It's often worth the effort, but it's requires too many exacting steps and is still a pain.
Well, I think this might be a fundamental difference in what we look for in games. At least with Mass Effect, I'm not looking for a sim-world that I can micro-manage. I want an immersive narrative that happens "with or without me," so to speak, which I am able to influence to some extent through my choices. If I have too much control, ie. keeping characters alive is as easy as choosing the "Stay alive!" dialogue option instead of the "Go fall off a bridge" dialogue option, I find it difficult to take the characters seriously or form any sort of bond with them, because that's simply not how characters in other media/actual people IRL behave. The simplification is intrusive and reminds me that I'm "only" playing a game.

I really don't think that looking up a guide before playing ME3 is the right way to approach this kind of game (and this isn't necessarily addressed at you; for all I know, the ending is the only thing you've looked up in any detail). It gets in the way of the player's ability to perceive the world's immediacy when said player knows precisely what choice is coming up, and how s/he needs to choose in order to get result X, vs. how for result Y. The world stops being "real," to whatever extent it might have managed otherwise, and is reduced to the code behind the curtain.

I think the game very purposefully means to shock you with your inability to do certain things you would like to do. Without spoiling anything, a certain character's possible death in ME3 actually pulls up a Paragon interrupt (press L1 to take a heroic action! Fast!), but even if you hit L1, you can't save them in time. Shepard TRIES, but fails. The horror of that, as you realize what's happening, as you realize you can't do anything to stop it despite trying so hard, is what sells the scene. If you know in advance all of the triggers that go into this scene, all of the decisions that influence it, it's no longer a world, it's just a bunch of boxes that you can tick off while playing the game.