But since they werent' trying to generate a statistical model, I have to ask, who the hell cares?Glademaster said:
Poll: The Effectiveness of Boycotting: EA/ME3 Edition
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Not boycotting ME3. I have every intention of buying it. I am just waiting for the 360 incarnation to drop to an personally acceptable price because I am really excited about utilizing the Kinect functionality with it, But Mass effect is not a major top shelf franchise for me personally.
However, I fully intend to play the game as it came on disc. For one, because I WANT the true ending, regardless of how it is. And two, because I have come to find out that Microsoft has mirrored Sonys "you waive your right to sue us" provision in firmware updates, so I wont be able to play the DLC without extensive work, or on a different platform.
I do not have to have played it to know that the game, despite its shorter development cycle IS a good game, enjoyable game, and a worthy entry to the series, and my play thru will tell if its a worthy finale to Shepard's tale (note not MY tale, Shepard's tale, In part because I want to get the more canonical ending by NOT importing files and decisions)
Then, In about a year, when all three are available to link on PC, I will get cheap copies and do a linked run thru. (provided my backlog is clear at that point)
So, to me, I understand people. I also understand a LOT of people love nothing but to whine ***** and complain about things not going their way, and the remaining anonymity of the internet allows them to do that with unending impunity. So I understand that Bioware put a lot of time, work, and effort into the game as a whole. It might not be perfect but there is simply no way humanly possible it could be as bad as some have portrayed it, and certainly it was never worth the knee jerk unsatisfied rage that it generated, and likely would have generated under any circumstances because you simply cannot ever please everybody.
And also the point of playing the "unpatched" ending, is so I can see what Bioware actually pushed out the gate, because I REALLY have a sneaking suspicion that when I see it for myself I will think "My god, people totally missed how ingenious this actually is." But again, time will tell.
However, I fully intend to play the game as it came on disc. For one, because I WANT the true ending, regardless of how it is. And two, because I have come to find out that Microsoft has mirrored Sonys "you waive your right to sue us" provision in firmware updates, so I wont be able to play the DLC without extensive work, or on a different platform.
I do not have to have played it to know that the game, despite its shorter development cycle IS a good game, enjoyable game, and a worthy entry to the series, and my play thru will tell if its a worthy finale to Shepard's tale (note not MY tale, Shepard's tale, In part because I want to get the more canonical ending by NOT importing files and decisions)
Then, In about a year, when all three are available to link on PC, I will get cheap copies and do a linked run thru. (provided my backlog is clear at that point)
So, to me, I understand people. I also understand a LOT of people love nothing but to whine ***** and complain about things not going their way, and the remaining anonymity of the internet allows them to do that with unending impunity. So I understand that Bioware put a lot of time, work, and effort into the game as a whole. It might not be perfect but there is simply no way humanly possible it could be as bad as some have portrayed it, and certainly it was never worth the knee jerk unsatisfied rage that it generated, and likely would have generated under any circumstances because you simply cannot ever please everybody.
And also the point of playing the "unpatched" ending, is so I can see what Bioware actually pushed out the gate, because I REALLY have a sneaking suspicion that when I see it for myself I will think "My god, people totally missed how ingenious this actually is." But again, time will tell.
The point is a limited pool of 32 users on a page of an 833 is not what the rest of the boycott was like.Zachary Amaranth said:
You mean not necessarily, which is a fairly important distinction.Glademaster said:
Though I suppose the lion share of MW2 players were new buys because ponies.
I don't know. They were all over my friend's lists, too. I'm not a fan of the personal anecdote as a model, but it's sufficient to demonstrate the built-in hypocrisy of gamers.
Hell, a lot of people on here were so outraged with ME3 that they were planning on Boycotting EA/Bioware...But only AFTER they bought ME3.
boycott's don't work and frankly it's starting to get kind of ridiculous. Feel free to not buy the game if you honestly don't want to buy them but don't run to the internet to call everyone who actually wanted to play the game 'consumer sheep' or 'fanboys'
The boycott for MW2 was because gamers discovered it wouldn't include dedicated servers, "Greedy!" the people cried "They are ruining the industry!"
Now several years later CoD games still don't support dedicated servers and has the game industry been seriously affected by it? No not really. All that happens is that on occasion the host of a game will leave and you'll have to migrate hosts.
It's a tiny inconvenience at most, and if you're focusing on the one tiny detail you hate you're going to miss the other details you actually like.
It just goes to show that gamers tend to overreact to most things.
The boycott for MW2 was because gamers discovered it wouldn't include dedicated servers, "Greedy!" the people cried "They are ruining the industry!"
Now several years later CoD games still don't support dedicated servers and has the game industry been seriously affected by it? No not really. All that happens is that on occasion the host of a game will leave and you'll have to migrate hosts.
It's a tiny inconvenience at most, and if you're focusing on the one tiny detail you hate you're going to miss the other details you actually like.
It just goes to show that gamers tend to overreact to most things.
I already posted sales for Europe that showed an exact drop in sales(compared to CoD 4) of how many people were saying they were going to boycott. Granted those were retail only but once again limited pools and friends are not what sets the trend for the whole group. If we want to go by my friends it was ~90% effective.Zachary Amaranth said:
The numbers were from VGchartz.
Now granted I am not saying games aren't hypocritical what I am saying is that the image provided is an awful example. Since they did bring dedicated servers back it obviously did something.
Black Ops brought back in dedicated server as well as Modern Warfare 3. The only one not to include them was MW 2.Limecake said:
i bought ME3 mainly because it's ME3, which is part of the ME universe... the "support" i showed to EA is only a side effect of this purchase
Isn't that pretty much the reason for most of the pre-orders or first day buys of any given AAA release? Well, not necessarily ponies, of course, but often something equally irrational. I mean, we could also look at the numbers of how many people bought, to remain on topic, ME3 simply "Because ME3, Oh-em-gee!"; and call those silly as well.Zachary Amaranth said:
^ This, a lot of people have been telling me that they bought it BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO FINISH THE STORY MAAANVegosiux said:
Read the wiki people -_-.
ResonanceSD, boycotting EA since Dragon Age 2.
I don't get the double standard. So steam is notably a memory hog, I mean god help you if you're trying to do anything else when you're downloading something on steam, it locks up your shit, oh well I still love you steam. But if Origin does it, well you're done with Origin forever? I still remember when Medal of Honor was on steam and it had horrendous patch issues that didn't get resolved for like 2 months, should I have said "fuck steam, they botched this, never dealing with them again"?bahumat42 said:
Point A: Ok so other services have the same games, why is this some huge fault of Origin? As a consumer you should be looking to various companies/ services for the best deal you can get. If I see a game on origin and on steam and they are the same price, but I'm getting far better speeds on origin, I'm going to buy on Origin. If I find a better price on steam I'll buy it on steam. Hell if I find the same deal on amazon I'll download it from there, because even amazon's downloader works better than steam's.
Point B: I'll give you that, but like I said I personally only have issue with EA's treatment of employees, I think the other stuff people hold against them is a little blown out of proportion considering so many other companies pull the same shit but no one says a damned thing.
Point C: Why does something have to "provide something new"? What huge innovation are you looking for in a game distributor? Just because something has a relatively equal (subjective) service it makes it worse? Like I said in point A, you shop around for what best benefits you as a consumer, mindlessly tying your wagon to Steam regardless of better service and or price elsewhere is ludicrous.
I call people hypocrites because most of them are. People treat steam as infallible and ignore any fault it has what so ever. For example you say oh well I've never had a problem with steam, I had a problem with Origin. Fuck Origin. But there has/are people who have problems with Steam, and Steam has dropped the ball lots of times. I think it is flat out hypocritical of people to say the Origin is the worst service ever when they've barely used the damn thing while at the same time turning a blind eye to Steam's faults. Hey steam works amazing for you, great, keep using it, but don't pretend like it is a god send and Origin is the devil.bahumat42 said:
Also, 10 years? Really? Cause your steam says August 2006, to have been using steam for 10 years you would have to have been part of the very first beta users. You want to see someone who's been using steam for damn near 10 years since its full release? http://steamcommunity.com/id/rednog
Im not going to quote because of stacking, but if you notice steam being a memory/resource hog, you need a new pc.
Still haven't bought ME3 and probably never will. Started being sceptic about it when it was announced it would be Origin only and from that point on problems just kept piling up. Electronic Arts would have to make a big turn around at this point to make me buy from them again.
