Poll: The future of Devil May Cry

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Sigmund Av Volsung

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I'd like to see Ninja Theory continue with the reboot, but it feels like the movie-type of reboot.

That is, they make it, then never do anything again with the alternate series, same with Tomb Raider.

There is quite a lot of potential in the new series though, from what little I played of it, it was immense fun, and I heard that the "new Dante being a douche" problem gets resolved at the end(?).
 

Ml33tninja

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As much I hate to say it DMC2 for me. The original series while it excels at combat and level design was decent at best in other categories(story, characters). I feel the original series has no where to go. Loved Devil May Cry 4 as well as DMC but the new world interest me more. New Dante gets a unfair view. People talk about him being an asshole but two things 1) Original Dante - Just as big of an asshole No question. 2) He stops his no care view VERY Early in the game so I never saw the problem. I would love to see Dante fight the angels next as I got the feeling they never were on the up and up. While I loved the games and they have a part in my heart but the ham fisted acting and decent to poor storytelling have kept me from being a diehard fan.
 

Arslan Aladeen

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5, just give Itsuno the time needed to actually finish it. I won't say the reboot was terrible, but I found it boring for the most part and some of the choices just perplexed me. It has less moves, weapons, styles, and features than 3, which came out about 6 years prior on the previous system which is just baffling. I also don't like the new Dante, old Dante was just more fun to me. I also don't get why people are praising the platforming in the reboot. Yeah, it's slightly better than previous games, but it's tedious, requires very little effort on the player part and adds nothing to the combat.
 

Lunar Templar

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DmC: Devil May Cry 2

Cause I liked it, sure it has problems, like being way to fucking easy, a few 'Uncanny Vally' moments with Virgil, the demon designs needing help (but that's always been an issue) -.- some script writing decisions(I'm looking at you Succubus intro scene).

But it had the best story of all the games, the world presented was more interesting then what we'd seen prior, the characters then selves are also better then before, the ever changing land scape was also fun.

and do we really want more of Nero? Really? He's the 'Raiden' of DMC and unless they're gonna turn him into a 'Cyborg Ninja' at some point I could really do with out more of that whipped ***** thanks.(Seriously, DMC4 was pretty much JUST a about him finding his Girlfriend, the intro cut-scene is basically the whole story of the game)
 

Maximum Bert

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Neither I would actually like Platinum to get the rights back to DMC (ok team little devils/angels) and so make a true DMC sequel not the mostly horrid games Capcom have been putting out after the original (ok 3 was wasnt terrible but I found it a chore to play by the end).

If I had to choose between those though I would say DMC 2 by Ninja Theory would be the better option the old Dante has been pretty much destroyed by every other game he has been in since the first one he just became a caricature of himself imo at least with the reboot he was remoddeled and they have a chance to stay true to his (new) design.

I have basically given up on DMC now 4 disappointing sequels is to much luckily Bayonetta was there to save the day and hopefully do it again with the sequel...if it ever frikkin comes out.
 

BrotherRool

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I'm impressed with how close the poll is. Given the absolutely awful marketing and the fact reboots are always going to leave someone feeling burnt, regardless of circumstance, I think this is actually a pretty good testament to Ninja Theory. Or a testament to how tepid people were with DMC4. Either way I would've expected DmC 2 to be slaughtered

Charmille said:
Yeah I think I prefer the old Dante. Can't top this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK6UaPnRYcc#t=51]! (I don't know how you link videos in that window thingy)
EDIT: Totally forgot to include the actual words. If you want to embed a youtube video it's {youtube=PK6UaPnRYcc} but with square brackets. The letters are the bit that comes after ?v= in the youtube address.

So
 

Maxtro

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I'd like a DMC 2 but with some major revision. Dante's look and personality has to be completely changed. Virgil is fine the way he is, especially after the expansion content. The Devil Trigger needs to be changed back into a demon form. It was just completely underwhelming in DMC.

As for the story, I'd really like the game to rescue Sparda in hell. Both Dante and Virgil should be playable.
 
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Kheapathic said:
Pretty sure he was saying DmC's hardest difficulty didn't measure up to DMC3's normal difficulty; not that DmC was hard... because yeah, it wasn't. As for Nero and his arm, he's Vergil's son. That's why Yamato reacts to him, no real explanation why his demon powers only manifest in his arm though. They had massive plans for DMC4 that fell through because of budget constraints, that's why Dante does Nero's adventure in reverse and the story seems scattered and unfinished.

Unless Vergil was like, ten years old at the time of conception, I find the idea of Nero being his son very unlikely.

OT: Devil May Cry 5 please, preferably in the hands of Platinum Games.


What they did to Vergil in DmC is just too angsty and crinGeworthy for words.

From cold badass to jealous brother with mummy issues.

Super ¬_¬
 

hermes

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DMC 4 was Itsuno's attempt at a DMC 3 sequel, and it only proved that they were in desperate need of fresh ideas. The writing is awful, the new character is a recycled Dante and even half the stages and bosses are recycled. They were so tied up to Dante that they make him a playable character for half the game.

Needless to say, I enjoyed DmC a lot more than DMC4, even when it was not perfect, it had more originality on one stage than DMC4 in the entire game. If the choice is between more Nero or more Dante in the new setting, its an easy one for me.
 

go-10

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DMC 2, I played DMC recently and while I did find it too easy I also found it quite entertaining. When I think back to DMC 3 or 4 I think about frustration, repeating the same areas over and over and in the case on DMC 3 quitting the game because I didn't want to deal with the insane difficulty on a normal play through, or playing the entire stage from the beginning every time I died. Also the original Dante, well; he was a douche. He wasn't badass or cool, he was a red leather wearing emo douche bag at least the new Dante is just some hipster punk. Both new and old Dante are terrible characters but at least the new one has some redeeming qualities... Vergil on the other hand remains an asshole :/
 

hckleinman

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DmC was an OK game, but was a COMPLETELY unnecessary reboot. I think they should just go the Prince of Persia route and go back to the original incarnation of the series. The sales numbers strongly indicate that the original incarnation was strongly preferred by more of the fans. For the simple pragmatic reason of wanting the series to survive, I hope they go back to the original, Coca-Cola Classic formula.
 

lapan

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hckleinman said:
I think they should just go the Prince of Persia route and go back to the original incarnation of the series.

I wouldn't call PoP Sands of Time the original incarnation of the series. There were 2 2d platformers and a really bloody and hard, early 3D version before that.
 

hckleinman

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lapan said:
hckleinman said:
I think they should just go the Prince of Persia route and go back to the original incarnation of the series.

I wouldn't call PoP Sands of Time the original incarnation of the series. There were 2 2d platformers and a really bloody and hard, early 3D version before that.
You got me there. Let me reframe it as "previous, more successful."
 

lapan

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hermes200 said:
The writing is awful, the new character is a recycled Dante and even half the stages and bosses are recycled. They were so tied up to Dante that they make him a playable character for half the game.
At least DMC 3+4's writing knew it was awful and made fun of itself while DmC tries to take itself seriously
 

hermes

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lapan said:
hermes200 said:
The writing is awful, the new character is a recycled Dante and even half the stages and bosses are recycled. They were so tied up to Dante that they make him a playable character for half the game.
At least DMC 3+4's writing knew it was awful and made fun of itself while DmC tries to take itself seriously
Is that the new flavor?

I am in favor of ironically bad writing (when its well done), but its fun to see how the justification has morphed from "the writing was never important", to "it was always ironic".

And no, I don't agree with the assessment that it was bad on propose. If that were the case, this forum would not be full of people trying to convince me Classic Dante is some sort of complex character with a tragic arc, instead of a douchebag that acts like he is too cool for life and speaks in one-liners. The Japanese version of Duke Nukem...
 

lapan

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hermes200 said:
lapan said:
hermes200 said:
The writing is awful, the new character is a recycled Dante and even half the stages and bosses are recycled. They were so tied up to Dante that they make him a playable character for half the game.
At least DMC 3+4's writing knew it was awful and made fun of itself while DmC tries to take itself seriously
Is that the new flavor?

I am in favor of ironically bad writing (when its well done), but its fun to see how the justification has morphed from "the writing was never important", to "it was always ironic".

And no, I don't agree with the assessment that it was bad on propose. If that were the case, this forum would not be full of people trying to convince me Classic Dante is some sort of complex character with a tragic arc, instead of a douchebag that acts like he is too cool for life and speaks in one-liners. The Japanese version of Duke Nukem...

I don't pretend that Dante was ever deep, but with scenes like the above it's pretty clear that the writers knew it was ridiculous and overplaying it for the fun of it and i enjoyed it for that.
 

hckleinman

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The series was never ironic. Just Hammy. It was deliberately over acted to the point of silliness. DMC 3 and DMC 4 were incredibly hammy, enjoyable so.
 

Eclipse Dragon

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Can I get both or neither? How about a reboot of the reboot?
From a story standpoint, it got too convoluted by Devil May Cry 4, they had no idea where they were going with it and what they wanted to accomplish (hence why reboot in the first place).

I understand what Ninja Theory was trying to do with the reboot Dante in DmC, but it's silly and the angel/demon aspect is just horrible from character standpoint. How do we make this character more relatable, take out all essence of his humanity? I would have preferred they left the human portion in. I also prefer the humor of the original Dante (number 3), the humor in DmC feels immature.

So retcon everything in the franchise (both the new and the old), except number 3 and go from there.
Also give it to a different developer.
 

BlackJimmy

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Well I'll admit I've only play the first game in the original and only to the first Dark Knight boss.
Of the two, I preferred DMC and am looking forward to a sequel.
 

Peter Zega

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I'm as hardcore as Devil May Cry fans come but I'd rather see DmC 2 over a Devil May Cry 5. Devil May Cry 1 is my favorite game of all time but devil may cry 2 was weak, devil may cry 3 saw the loss of all of Dante's cool points and turned him into a teenage mutant ninja turtle, and devil may cry 4 was a weak game that you had to play through twice to beat. Dmc made young Dante a street punk which is a hell of a lot closer to how I've always imagined him. Dmc2 would give that universe a chance to grow and Dante to return to being the bad ass we all know and love from the original devil may cry series. Besides their all set up to retell devil may cry 3 and seeing that game with these graphics and Dmc's kick ass combat would be amazing.