Poll: The New Decade!

Aloran

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xDarc said:
My only hope is people get with the future and start saying twenty eleven instead of two thousand and eleven. The whole new millennium thing is over, you can stop saying two thousand in front of everything.
But it is the year 2011?

Two thousand and eleven in number.

Why should we say twenty-eleven? Yes I am aware we say nineteen ninety when referring 1990 but for some reason saying twenty-x as a representative of this century sounds odd to me.
 

Sleekgiant

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No_Remainders said:
Excuse me? A year 0?

Hold on... What's this? The Common Era Calendar began in year 1. There is no such thing as year 0. It went from 1 BCE (Before Common Era) to 1 CE (Common Era).
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OT: 2011 cuz I'm special
 

zen5887

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Numerically, 2011 might be the new decade but culturally it is certainly 2010.
 

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No_Remainders said:
My logic is that it's 2011, as there is no "Year 0" in the Common Era Calendar, and as such, 1-10 is one decade, 11-20 is another.
Nope. There must have been a year 0. Because years 0-99 were the first century. If years 1-100 were the first century, we'd have started this century in 2001. Not 2000.

I think. We may have started it in 2001 after all in which case, you're right, I'm wrong.
 

Dimitriov

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"The absence of a year 0 leads to some confusion concerning the boundaries of longer decimal intervals, such as decades and centuries. For example, each decade begins with a year ending in 1, not 0. The third millennium of the Gregorian calendar began on 1 January 2001, rather than the widely celebrated 1 January 2000. Likewise, the 20th century began on 1 January 1901.

This rule results from the fact that the Gregorian calendar begins with a year 1 instead of 0. Cardinal and ordinal numbering of years is therefore identical: The year 10 is the tenth year of the calendar and the end of the first decade. The year 11 is the first year of the second decade, and so on. In spite of this rule, years ending in 0, rather than 1, are commonly perceived as marking the beginning of a new decade, century, or millennium.

If the Gregorian calendar had begun with a year 0 as its first year, then the year 10 would have been the 11th year of the calendar and the first year of the second decade. Similarly, the year 2000 would have been the 2,001st year of the calendar, therefore the actual first year of the 21st century and the third millennium."

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(year)

'Cause a citation was requested. :p
 

No_Remainders

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someonehairy-ish said:
No_Remainders said:
My logic is that it's 2011, as there is no "Year 0" in the Common Era Calendar, and as such, 1-10 is one decade, 11-20 is another.
Nope. There must have been a year 0. Because years 0-99 were the first century. If years 1-100 were the first century, we'd have started this century in 2001. Not 2000.

I think. We may have started it in 2001 after all in which case, you're right, I'm wrong.
See Dimitriov's post right below yours.

Also: Thanks Dimitriov :p
 

No_Remainders

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Sneaky Paladin said:
I always thought it worked like birthdays and you aren't 1 year old when your born but you are when you have lived for 1 year
... That has nothing to do with... Anything?

Yeah, you're 1 year old a year after you are born.
That's common sense.

However, if you are going to count from year 1 (being the first year), including it, the 100th number is... Well... 100.

So, if you use this logic, the first century began on 1/1/1 and ended on 31/12/100.
Also, by this logic, assuming a single year cannot have a century beginning AND ending in the same year (eg: first century ended on 31/12/100 which implies the second can't have begun on 1/1/100), one must infer that the second decade started on, oh look, 1/1/101.

So unless you are going to have a "century" with 99 years, which is, obviously, a huge contradiction, we must assume that it's 1-100, 101-200, 201-300, 301-400, 401-500, 501-600, etc.

This logic can also be applied to decades also, 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40, etc.

Therefore, decades/centuries/millennia can be said to BEGIN in years ending with 1, and END in years ending in 0.
 

Ghengis John

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No_Remainders said:
So, I'd like to ask all of you this!

Did your new decade start on January 1st, 2010 or will it begin on January 1st, 2011?

My logic is that it's 2011, as there is no "Year 0" in the Common Era Calendar, and as such, 1-10 is one decade, 11-20 is another.

What say all of you?
I say, it's nice that you care.
 

Spencer Petersen

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Subtract 20 years from both dates, do you consider the year 1990 to not be in the 90s? Likewise, do you consider the year 2000 to not be in the 2000s?
 

No_Remainders

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Novskij said:
Your skipping a year in each century. 100-101,200-201,1800-1801 etc.
Ok. I'll flesh it out for those of us without the ability to use any logic.

1/1/1 - 31/12/100
1/1/101 - 31/12/200
1/1/201 - 31/12/300

Now you geddit?

Spencer Petersen said:
Subtract 20 years from both dates, do you consider the year 1990 to not be in the 90s? Likewise, do you consider the year 2000 to not be in the 2000s?
So by your logic, either there's a year zero, which we've already established there isn't or else you've decided that some decade only had 9 years... Which would mean that there was a century with 99 and a millennium with 999.

Sorry, but no.
 

No_Remainders

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Novskij said:
No_Remainders said:
Novskij said:
Your skipping a year in each century. 100-101,200-201,1800-1801 etc.
Ok. I'll flesh it out for those of us without the ability to use any logic.

1/1/1 - 31/12/100
1/1/101 - 31/12/200
1/1/201 - 31/12/300

Now you geddit?
Nope.
Sigh.
Ok. A decade/century/millennium must begin on January 1st and end on December 31st.
So say a decade begins on January the 1st, year 1. It must last 10 full years.
So, 1/1/1 up to 31/12/1 is a full year. 1/1/2 - 31/12/2 is a full year also.
If you keep going, the end of the tenth year is 31/12/10. Which means that the next decade MUST begin on 1/1/11.

It's basic logic.
 

No_Remainders

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Novskij said:
No_Remainders said:
Novskij said:
No_Remainders said:
Novskij said:
Your skipping a year in each century. 100-101,200-201,1800-1801 etc.
Ok. I'll flesh it out for those of us without the ability to use any logic.

1/1/1 - 31/12/100
1/1/101 - 31/12/200
1/1/201 - 31/12/300

Now you geddit?
Nope.
Sigh.
Ok. A decade/century/millennium must begin on January 1st and end on December 31st.
So say a decade begins on January the 1st, year 1. It must last 10 full years.
So, 1/1/1 up to 31/12/1 is a full year. 1/1/2 - 31/12/2 is a full year also.
If you keep going, the end of the tenth year is 31/12/10. Which means that the next decade MUST begin on 1/1/11.

It's basic logic.
Your still skipping the time that adds up/builds up to year 1. as in 0.10,0.50.
1 AD/CE/etc. (Anno Domini/Common Era/etc.) was preceded by 1 BC/BCE/etc. (Before Christ/Before Common Era/etc.)
 

TheEndlessSleep

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No_Remainders said:
My logic is that it's 2011, as there is no "Year 0" in the Common Era Calendar, and as such, 1-10 is one decade, 11-20 is another.
if the decade starts in 2011, then by the same logic you're saying that the 21st century started in 2001...