Poll: The Weirdest Thought
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Clever, my friend, very clever.
I'm not a Christian myself, but it's a good idea, and I will put it to my friend who is Christian (Har har)
I'm not a Christian myself, but it's a good idea, and I will put it to my friend who is Christian (Har har)
What I was getting at is that it's ultimately pointless in my opinion, arguing about two non-existant beings.cabooze said:
I have to say I'm agreeing with Buzz Lightyear above, though it is a vaild point to put to religious people. They spend too much time and resources on religion.
Whuzz wrong with religion, Dippo shiza? 
im beleiving in my christian faith, and I think that the person who came up with this idea is a genius, I always thought god was a hypocrite, saying he'll forgive for anything and then jams a knife in our back becuase we didnt shake hands with him firmly enough. but I never thought about the god-satan condition
im beleiving in my christian faith, and I think that the person who came up with this idea is a genius, I always thought god was a hypocrite, saying he'll forgive for anything and then jams a knife in our back becuase we didnt shake hands with him firmly enough. but I never thought about the god-satan condition
God feels it is in his right to do whatever he wants because he's a god and is our creator. Over the centuries though, he's learned from his mistakes (yes, God makes mistakes) and has become more loving of his creation (us.) Satan on the other hand is only interested in pleasing himself. He's like the frat guy with a pocket full of ruffies. Sure, he might seem nice on the outside, but that's his tactic.
And it really doesn't matter what religion you are, most of them have the same basic beliefs, same basic stories. Only thing that really matters is to have Faith.
And if you're a sceptic, look at it this way. If you die with Faith, you'll either go to a Heaven or nothing will happen. If you die without Faith, you'll either go to Hell or nothing will happen. So what exactly is believeing in something greater than yourself hurting? Definitely not yourself.
And it really doesn't matter what religion you are, most of them have the same basic beliefs, same basic stories. Only thing that really matters is to have Faith.
And if you're a sceptic, look at it this way. If you die with Faith, you'll either go to a Heaven or nothing will happen. If you die without Faith, you'll either go to Hell or nothing will happen. So what exactly is believeing in something greater than yourself hurting? Definitely not yourself.
That logic doesn't really work, and for it to do so one would have to belong to all religions at once, something that would be impossible and hypocritic. If you were to have faith in say, the Christian God, and yet it turned out that when you one day got flattened by a bus, that Allah was the big man, you'd still go to "Hell" for being a Christian, which has numerous contradictions to the Islamic faith. Not that I believe in either faith, you understand.New Troll said:
Maybe because being bigoted, jealous, malicious, short-tempered, following orders without question to be mindless zealot killers is good for the church while being accepting, understanding and encouraged to learn new things is bad for the church?
I don't hate Christianity but the question you have asked has a very obvious answer and it doesn't make the church look good.
I don't hate Christianity but the question you have asked has a very obvious answer and it doesn't make the church look good.
I believe Allah and the christian God are the same. Just different interpretations of thier/his same message. If I had to choose a religion, which thankfully I don't because that was never part of God's message, I would probably be more swayed towards Christianity. My wife on the other hand is Muslim. And we will be sharing our love for one another even after we're long gone for niether of us are going to Hell. We're either going to Heaven, or our energies are going to drift around together among the stars.curlycrouton said:
[We believe] in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spake by the prophets. In one holy catholic and apostolic Church; we acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.New Troll said:
That is the Nicene Creed, the most widely used profession of faith in Christian liturgy. There, it clearly states that one should believe in "In one holy catholic and apostolic Church". This phrase is known as the "Four Marks of the True Church", describing the Universal or Catholic Church as established by Jesus Christ, meaning it is a solely Christian church. It also mentions that Christians should believe in "The Lord", who "proceedeth from the Father". This too shows clear implications to exclusive Christianity.
Islam, however, states that Jesus was not the Son of God, a belief which the Christian Church would condemn you for. So the two religions cannot co-exist.
It is possible, of course, that you do not belong to any of the established denominations of Christianity (all of which recognise the Nicene Creed). If this is the case, then it is the business of you and your beliefs to determine whether you are a Christian or whether you are not.
Just to clarify, I am not a Christian. I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't hold your faith (in fact I respect you for it), but according to traditional doctrine of Islam and Christianity, they can't co-exist.
yes, it's true that without the context it might sound rude... i was 16, and i was looking for guidance because i was feelings emotions, which my mom was telling me they were wrong. i'm catholic and one sunday morning after sleeping outside for the night beause i had a fight with my mom, i went to a church(yes i know it was stupid to do that, but i was young and 15 years ago, the wasnt much help available, and internet wasnt very popular) and ask the priest if God would forgive me that i was homosexual. I reply that it ewas ok with God if i seek forgiveness for it and if in my entirelife i stay pure, not seeking to act on my impulsion (so basically live my life alone).Cheesus333 said:
I believe my exact words were : if God really care if the person i love have boobs or not, i rather spend the rest of eternity with Satan.
Again, I do not consider myself Christian. I do not trust or put faith in religion, for they are product of man. I do believe in a god, God, Allah, Ishvara, Jehova, Vishnu, Dues, El, Lord, call Him what you're raised and taught to call Him, but He's still the same. He's still giving the same message to us, love one another as we love Him, our Father. And yeah, that wasn't always His message, but through our actions and his better understanding of His children, He added the first part.curlycrouton said:
But anyways, I'm not trying to make anyone believe a certain way, but I do wish everyone held a Belief. For me, it's nice to have someone to talk to, to be there for you, to let you know you're never alone. Someone who knows your sins and yet still loves you, just as a parent should.