Poll: "They just hate it because it's popular."
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If Twilight had The Count, it would be a better film.BaconPunch said:
Not so much romance then as have a "love-interest".
I have hated MLP for a while. Not because of it's inexplicably popularity, but because of how obnoxious the hardcore fans are.
As many others have said, I dislike something because it's bad. I HATE it because of it's popularity. A large number of people liking a piece of crap, just amplifies the hate.
As many others have said, I dislike something because it's bad. I HATE it because of it's popularity. A large number of people liking a piece of crap, just amplifies the hate.
I dislike some popular things because they had to make major concessions to be popular, pandering to the most broad of stories, mechanics, and other factors because anything more specific would have brought them from 100 million in profits to a mere 10-50 million.Zhukov said:
That, I imagine, is the problem anyone who hates popularity is actually experiencing.
In order for things to be widely popular they must make concessions, the more concessions made the more popular the product.
Inevitably, as is example in just about any medium, most artists jumps on the bandwagon and you are left with at least a year of the same generalized product with a different name and publisher.
I like a lot of different things, my ipod can attest to that, but the only time that I hate on something popular is if my friend is praising a game I can never play cuz it's not a playable genre to me, and it's mostly just joking.
I.E. Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, L.A. Noire, Dead Space 2, and others.
I mostly don't like things because I don't like that certain genre.
Unless it's a song on the radio that plays every half hour, or something that's been advertised to death, commercials every ten minutes, ads taking over everything you're doing, etc.
I.E. Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, L.A. Noire, Dead Space 2, and others.
I mostly don't like things because I don't like that certain genre.
Unless it's a song on the radio that plays every half hour, or something that's been advertised to death, commercials every ten minutes, ads taking over everything you're doing, etc.
I haven't ever felt that way, but that mindset certainly does exist. Few people actually state it that way of course, but it becomes pretty clear once they start listing their "reasons" (assuming they can list any at all).
Perhaps I should have added more context to my post at the cost of concisness. Obviously I was not suggesting that literally saying everything that becomes popular is hated by everyone. As you say the internet would be rejected by early adopters and presumably in turn by everyone, society would be in a constant state of flux as all commodities went through the process of release, growth, maturity and decline very rapidly.Squallie Greenthumb said:
I do though doubt that (at the time of my first post) less than twenty percent of people disliked something and it was foregrounded in its popularity. Sub cultural theory (specifically the work of Hebbidge and Thornton) highlights the ubiquity of taste in relation to others. For most people the hatred of a pop star (for example) may well be informed by them representing a corporate monolith that stands in opposition to their pure as the driven snow untainted by capitalism choice of music. I honestly believe (unfortunately I don't have the studies to hand) that many peoples opinions are heavily mediated by the opinions of others (myself included) and by the status of commodities within their life cycle.
Once the LA Noire hype has died down I will be taking "my" cycle of films, including pre-noir, the much contested classic period, neo-noir, post-noir, tech-noir and euro-noir back and as you say nurse them back to health to sit alongside my other interests that are ruined by other people (tounge in cheek, although I hasten to add I do see your point and was inevitably and sorely dissapointed by what I have played of LA Noire).
Personally? A couple of things. I find I like things less when they're more popular, largely out of overexposure.
I think we get a lot of people on this site hating on popular things, namely CoD or to a lesser extent Halo, just because it's popular (or maybe inventing reasons, or making points that are forgiven in other games).
I think we get a lot of people on this site hating on popular things, namely CoD or to a lesser extent Halo, just because it's popular (or maybe inventing reasons, or making points that are forgiven in other games).
I haven't ever hated something with a burning, burning passion, just because it's popular, but if I'm overexposed to something I personally consider to be mediocre, or I'm just not particularly interested in it, then it's really hard not to begin disliking something.
I've also been turned off of things I used to like because the fandom was so rabid.
I've also been turned off of things I used to like because the fandom was so rabid.
Have I ever hated something simply for being popular? No. Has the fact that something I hate been popular? Yes. But I wont go bashing someone simply because they like something I don't. Its that persons opinion and its not my place to try to change it.
No, because when i see, play or listen to something popular i have to understand why it's popular. AVATAR i LOVED it, Call of Duty....i don't hate it i just hate the way that it changed gaming and...i just don't get why it's soo popular...the online is fun i admit it but overall the game is just well...average. Seriously, i didn't even knew some people hated Harry Potter i LOVE the movies they are so good and imaginative.
I don't hate things solely because they're popular. That would be stupid.Zhukov said:
I hate things that deserve me to hate them, but that doesn't mean I'll avoid hating things that are popular.
Avatar, for example, I hated because it was pretty and nothing else, and even the prettiness started to hurt my eyes after a while. It was a long, drawn out, unoriginal bore-fest that basically tried to keep my attention by going "LOOK AT THE PRETTY COLOURS!" and failed because it got horrendously tiresome.
Inception I hated because of Leonardo di Caprio, the ending, and the fact that people put it on a pedestal as "the best movie of all time". It really wasn't.
Actually, the worst thing about Inception is probably the people who liked it. I'm sorry, but using "You just didn't understand it!" isn't an argument. I understood perfectly, and it was fucking stupid.
Not so much anymore. But when I was a teenager I totally was against any music I heard on the radio. "I'm not a mindless sheep" I would shout proudly.
Pretty dumb but I get why I did it. It was an attempt to exert my identity on a world that I felt threatened by, mostly standard teen anti-authority stuff.
Truth be told I still don't usually enjoy what's on the radio, but I've learned how to demonstrate the passion I have for things while not forcing my ideals on others.
I do feel that on a whole, people are too quick to use words like hate and love. We very much focus on extremes.
There are many levels of disdain or acceptance towards anything.
Pretty dumb but I get why I did it. It was an attempt to exert my identity on a world that I felt threatened by, mostly standard teen anti-authority stuff.
Truth be told I still don't usually enjoy what's on the radio, but I've learned how to demonstrate the passion I have for things while not forcing my ideals on others.
I do feel that on a whole, people are too quick to use words like hate and love. We very much focus on extremes.
There are many levels of disdain or acceptance towards anything.
I don't HATE it-I actually rather enjoyed it, even though it was nothing more than airheaded popcorn entertainment-but Avatar really annoys me purely because of the amount of bleeting idiots who proclaim it's "the greatest movie EVARRRR!!!1111!!!!"