Film reviewer. But I exaggerate, I was only asked to go watch the third film and decided by myself to watch the preceding couple so I would have a measure of criteria when writing about it.SanguiniusMagnificum said:
Poll: Twighlight
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Twilight is a pretty nice pony.
Maybe a bit of an egghead.
Or did you mean the other twilight? The one with the fairies that call themselves vampires?
Probably should specify better.
Anyway, I don't care much either way for the latter one.
Maybe a bit of an egghead.
Or did you mean the other twilight? The one with the fairies that call themselves vampires?
Probably should specify better.
Anyway, I don't care much either way for the latter one.
Now with the added flavor of 100% hindsight!The Bucket said:
And that hindsight is telling me that even towards the end that despite the massive moneyball the Twilight franchise was delivering, some of the cast was trying as hard as they could to make the most of a shitty situation.
(I count Michael Sheen as a living blessing from above if only for single handedly making the slow agonizing last act of one of the worst stories in mainstream cinematic history solid comedic gold. It takes balls to ham as hard as he did in the first place, but balls of steel to pull that in something as popular as Twilight.)
Ugh... no. Thinking about it drains me immensely. Me and my girlfriend like to watch shit movies, and Twilight was on the lsit, though we were both dreading it, but hey we'd just watched "The Room" and that was fucking hilarious (seriously watch the The Room, it's amaazing).
Alas, Twilight has to be the most draining, exhausting, poorly paced movie I have ever watched. Transformers is bad, but at least there's explosions and robots and stuff actually /happens/ in it. The plot of Twilight could be one episode of something.
Cullen has no reason to be attracted to Bella, he's 100 years old for fuck sake, he should be past pubescant riddled shyness and "love at first site" especially to an introverted, pasty girl who can only go "ughh...huhhh..*hahhh* hurrr....haaaa....*gollum noise*". Bella should not be into Cullun at first sight, he's a complete dick to her the first time she encounters him. She has no reason to, and it seems the only reason he's anomolous in anyway, is because he's the only kid at school who isn't imediantly scarilly in love with her and wants to be her bestest bud, especially not an introverted, pasty girl who can only go "ughhh...huhh..." etc.
Aside from that, NOTHING, FUCK ALL, JACK SHIT, happens until about the last 20 minutes of the movie.
In that last 20 minutes random black vampire shows up and tells us angry bloodthirsty vampire is the most powerful vampire he's ever seen in all his 300 years. Bella walks into a trap and then Edward, a pacifist, vegetarian vampire shows up and kills him within 2 minutes. I know the Heroes are invariably going to win, but c'mon, Edward demonstrates no fighting skills, nor a desire to fight, he doesn't even beat James through superior wit or cunning, he just wins.
Carlisle was about the only actor in that movie who actually seemed into it. At least if everyone was scenery chewing bad it would be funny to watch. Everyone else is just as apathetic and drained as I felt watching it. Likely because Kristen Stewart is in almost every scene and she's an emotionless, apathetic void, from which no talent or emotion may escape. She's. so. bad. She constantly does that fucking mouth breathing thing and has no concept of emotions or acting. Like someone is holding up cards with an emotion and facial expressionon it off screen and she attempts to contort her face into something resembling the card. Patterson also suffers from some fucking wierd ass facial expressions. Perhaps pain as the result of Stewart stealing his soul and or a cut of his wages from the directors underwear.
Even it's own vampire lore is inconsistant. Vampires can't go out in daylight because they sparkle, but exactly what constitutes daylight is left to the whim or the crummy writer. Also, sunlight sets the sparkles off, but not bright light, or streetlamps?
Alas, Twilight has to be the most draining, exhausting, poorly paced movie I have ever watched. Transformers is bad, but at least there's explosions and robots and stuff actually /happens/ in it. The plot of Twilight could be one episode of something.
Cullen has no reason to be attracted to Bella, he's 100 years old for fuck sake, he should be past pubescant riddled shyness and "love at first site" especially to an introverted, pasty girl who can only go "ughh...huhhh..*hahhh* hurrr....haaaa....*gollum noise*". Bella should not be into Cullun at first sight, he's a complete dick to her the first time she encounters him. She has no reason to, and it seems the only reason he's anomolous in anyway, is because he's the only kid at school who isn't imediantly scarilly in love with her and wants to be her bestest bud, especially not an introverted, pasty girl who can only go "ughhh...huhh..." etc.
Aside from that, NOTHING, FUCK ALL, JACK SHIT, happens until about the last 20 minutes of the movie.
In that last 20 minutes random black vampire shows up and tells us angry bloodthirsty vampire is the most powerful vampire he's ever seen in all his 300 years. Bella walks into a trap and then Edward, a pacifist, vegetarian vampire shows up and kills him within 2 minutes. I know the Heroes are invariably going to win, but c'mon, Edward demonstrates no fighting skills, nor a desire to fight, he doesn't even beat James through superior wit or cunning, he just wins.
Carlisle was about the only actor in that movie who actually seemed into it. At least if everyone was scenery chewing bad it would be funny to watch. Everyone else is just as apathetic and drained as I felt watching it. Likely because Kristen Stewart is in almost every scene and she's an emotionless, apathetic void, from which no talent or emotion may escape. She's. so. bad. She constantly does that fucking mouth breathing thing and has no concept of emotions or acting. Like someone is holding up cards with an emotion and facial expressionon it off screen and she attempts to contort her face into something resembling the card. Patterson also suffers from some fucking wierd ass facial expressions. Perhaps pain as the result of Stewart stealing his soul and or a cut of his wages from the directors underwear.
Even it's own vampire lore is inconsistant. Vampires can't go out in daylight because they sparkle, but exactly what constitutes daylight is left to the whim or the crummy writer. Also, sunlight sets the sparkles off, but not bright light, or streetlamps?
Uh... The books are better?
I honestly stopped caring about "Twighlight" after the whole "wings" thing... Oh wait...
I will say though that New Moon was "kinda" better than Twilight, but unless you're watching them with friends and/or perceiving them as a some kind of dark comedy, the movies, at least, are not worth watching without Rifftrax in the foreground...
I honestly stopped caring about "Twighlight" after the whole "wings" thing... Oh wait...
I will say though that New Moon was "kinda" better than Twilight, but unless you're watching them with friends and/or perceiving them as a some kind of dark comedy, the movies, at least, are not worth watching without Rifftrax in the foreground...
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I found a lot of the movies to be pretty entertainingly bad. I can sit through a Twilight movie no problem and laugh at it. The last film in particular is comedic gold.
My opinion is that the people who enjoy it should read and watch it, and the people who don't enjoy it should not.
If someone really dislikes it and wants to spend their time vilifying it.... well okay ... but I think that they could put their time to better use.
If someone really dislikes it and wants to spend their time vilifying it.... well okay ... but I think that they could put their time to better use.
I wonder how long it'll take for the Twilight and Mass Effect 3 ending threads to finally stop. Hasn't this been milked enough, already? They're bad books (and movies) that a lot of girls just happen to like. Who cares? Even they've probably forgot about it by now.
It's off my radar. Usually I only think of it when someone brings it up (like this thread). I don't get the hype or the backlash.
I couldn't get through the free Kindle sample. It was soooooo boring. Kind of poorly written, too.Lieju said:
Man here I was hoping for a nice thread about a beautiful time of the day and instead its just more random hate, I mean the books are crap but whatever they are old news and hating things just such a waste of time. By the way I voted no as you never actually specified what form of twilight your talking about at all.
Yeah, never read them, never watched more than bits and pieces. A few years ago I was a bit caught up in the negativity toward Twilight. I just get frustrated when an obviously bad piece of fiction gets really popular and makes tons of money. If I can write better stories than Twilight, and I know I can, than why aren't I a millionaire?
But in the end, it's nothing that important. I stopped caring long ago. My girlfriend likes the books, because she's a sucker for over-the-top romance, but even she admits that the movies are terrible.
The interesting thing is this: Though I never read a word of the Twilight novels, I have read the first few chapters of The Host. (I was on vacation, it was the only book available, I like to read on the toilet, whatever...) I was surprised to realize that I kinda liked it. I think the deal with Stephanie Meyer is that she actually has some good ideas, she's good at world-building (which is not a talent to sneeze at), and experience writing Twilight has made her at least a competent user of language. It's just that she is bad a characterization, and she gets way too caught up in her own romantic ideals and is no good at engaging us in them. Unless you are an idealistic romantic already.
But in the end, it's nothing that important. I stopped caring long ago. My girlfriend likes the books, because she's a sucker for over-the-top romance, but even she admits that the movies are terrible.
The interesting thing is this: Though I never read a word of the Twilight novels, I have read the first few chapters of The Host. (I was on vacation, it was the only book available, I like to read on the toilet, whatever...) I was surprised to realize that I kinda liked it. I think the deal with Stephanie Meyer is that she actually has some good ideas, she's good at world-building (which is not a talent to sneeze at), and experience writing Twilight has made her at least a competent user of language. It's just that she is bad a characterization, and she gets way too caught up in her own romantic ideals and is no good at engaging us in them. Unless you are an idealistic romantic already.
Agreed on this point so very much. Back when the first movie came out my lady's girlfriend was obsessed with the books and movie so I decided to read them over a few weekends. They weren't "the end of all that is good literature" like many people claim. They were semi-decent, a bit fan-ficy but no worse than other books I had read by so-called "respectable" writers.Little Woodsman said:
I even thought the skin that shined like diamonds in the sun was an interesting take on the whole "stay out of the sun" thing. Yes it wasn't traditional by any means but considering at the time I had played a RPG where all vampires were the children of Cain from the bible, a video game where my vampire character was also a ghost, and was watching a TV show where vampires didn't have souls and turned to dust if so much as a pencil managed to stake their (I assume made of tissue paper) ribcage, it's not really any more out there than that.
Overall I never got what the big fuss with them was either way. They aren't the worst thing ever written about vampires (I point to many many MANY bad vampire movies over the years) and they weren't all that original or well written. All and All I just shrug my shoulders and move on. They aren't for me.
Not watched the movies, but read the books.
Not only were the books (intentionally) dreadful, they were really creepy as well.
Meyer has problems deciding what's romantic and what's abusive or stalkery.
Not only were the books (intentionally) dreadful, they were really creepy as well.
Meyer has problems deciding what's romantic and what's abusive or stalkery.
I remember Nostalga chick (on her book show I think) said that mabye writers like Meyer who are religous have this idea as to what women are suposed to be/do and try to match that up with our "modern" ideas of feminism but it just doesn't workthaluikhain said:
she also said twilgiht isn't as bad as the trash thats out there (namely Tigers Curse)
Not really the target audience so I'm going to go with don't care as it really doesn't matter what I think.
The target audience seems to love it though so in some ways I guess that'd make it at least decent. Certainly popularity doesn't mean good but it must have some compelling parts somewhere if it is.
The target audience seems to love it though so in some ways I guess that'd make it at least decent. Certainly popularity doesn't mean good but it must have some compelling parts somewhere if it is.
Oh trust me, "Twihards" existed and still exist. Two of my uni acquaintances were like that. The "They ruined the movies because one side character had a different eye color than in the books!" and "How can you say the series is not the best thing since lukewarm water you HERETIC?!" kind. If you think the hatedom was bad, you should feel lucky that you never truly met the fandom...TakerFoxx said:
As for the actual series, I do like the movies ironically. We watched it with my pal MST3K style, where we stopped the movie to discuss every little narmy or stupid detail. It took us on average four hours to get through a single movie, but it was worth it.
Read all the books (by choice) then saw all the movies (bar the last and not entirely by choice). To be honest, I actually enjoyed the books, but didn't like the movies. I was also really looking forward to Midnight Sun, which is Twilight from Edward's point of view. I found it's your average teen girl fantasy story replacing the dream boy with a heavily edited idea of a vampire. Not exactly the Antichrist of literature, but not the best ever either.
I wouldn't say I'd go out of my way to read or watch them again, but if there was no choice, I wouldn't exactly be moaning about it.
I wouldn't say I'd go out of my way to read or watch them again, but if there was no choice, I wouldn't exactly be moaning about it.
Not an uncommon problem. I think Yahtzee said much the same about certain types of people who make webcomics, some time back. Something something "because they've heard of female empowerment but don't know what it is".Vault101 said:
Second that. Twilight fans tended towards the extreme.GabeZhul said:
There used to be a website listing the physical attacks committed by Twihards against people that weren't, dunno if it is still up.
[small]I particularly remember one story about a boy who saved a girl from being beaten up by two older Twihards at school, and how they ended up a couple because of it. Nawwwww[/small]