Erm... well this is awkward.Trivun said:To be completely honest, Twilight...
Erm... well this is awkward.Trivun said:To be completely honest, Twilight...
Agreed.Kukakkau said:neither the only time i remotely enoyed harry potter was when i was 8
and i constantly argue with all the girls in my school year about twilight is a load of crap and that the guy in it is not a vampire but instead a gay fairy
Erm... I'm not quite sure that was what I said...MaxTheReaper said:I enjoyed it. I still have to go with ItNotW, though. Because similar to what Erana said:Michael_McCloud said:Seriously, no one here's an HDM fan? It's still one of the best YA fiction trilogies in the history of ever.Best paraphrase ever.Erana said:For once, the kid actually had to use [his] brain, and [he] was treated [horribly and constantly abused] by the [everyone] in the story.
Gay fairy lol dude thank you for that argument!!Kukakkau said:and that the guy in it is not a vampire but instead a gay fairy
Argh- you are so incredibly lucky.....People in the US are stuck with Jim Dale narrating those audiobooks- not that he's bad, it's just that he's not Stephen Fry.....Cousin_IT said:Both suck. However the Harry Potter audio books are narrated by Steven Fry. Therefore Harry Potter is superior.
Edward Cullen is an abusive dick. Also, a series that is popular because teenage girls like drama deserves to be hated.It is what it is. It's a book that teenage girls love because of all the drama and whatnot going on. Not to mention that Edward Cullen is pretty much the perfect male, when it comes to fantasies
he/she said perfect male. But you're right, that's why edward cullen being abusive is bad for the book and the movie. He's bad and portrayed as good.. However, when he is constantly portrayed as, as you said, "the perfect boyfriend," that's where I draw a line.
He's pretty much the perfect male when it comes to fantasies. The last part is very important. Now, it's obvious women don't want to be raped, but a very large amount of them fantasize about it. It's not real, so they're safe. That way they can get rid of all their sexual inhibitions.MaxTheReaper said:Edward is controlling, and while exercising a little bit of control isn't bad as long as both parties share in it, when only one party exercises their control all of the time the relationship is unbalanced.Bunyip Andler said:I'm getting pretty tired of Twilight hate.
It is what it is. It's a book that teenage girls love because of all the drama and whatnot going on. Not to mention that Edward Cullen is pretty much the perfect male, when it comes to fantasies. No one is saying that it's a literary classic or that it's even well written. If anyone says that, give them an earful. Otherwise lay off it.
He's also a stalker. He's also emotionally abusive.
None of these things make the books horrible. However, when he is constantly portrayed as, as you said, "the perfect boyfriend," that's where I draw a line.
And light it on fire. And since the books would sooner ascend to godhood than portray anything he does as wrong...
Why? It's shallow, but it's appealing. If other people enjoy it, why does it deserve hate?mike1921 said:Also, a series that is popular because teenage girls like drama deserves to be hated.