If you can get everone in your school to ignore it then it doesnt have any power as it is very unlikly that they will punnish everone in the school
Poll: "Uniforms" in public school
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No i'm not of the belief that your school/education facility is your god and master. That sums up how i feel about school uniforms.
Why should the school be allowed to dictate what you wear? If a school forces you to wear something they are crushing that persons personal freedom in my eyes. Who cares if people dress sexually, shows gang affiliation or look completely gothic? It's up to them how they want to be seen (and subsequently judged) by others. People are in school to learn, not to have discipline drilled into them. It's a school, not a boot-camp.
Why should the school be allowed to dictate what you wear? If a school forces you to wear something they are crushing that persons personal freedom in my eyes. Who cares if people dress sexually, shows gang affiliation or look completely gothic? It's up to them how they want to be seen (and subsequently judged) by others. People are in school to learn, not to have discipline drilled into them. It's a school, not a boot-camp.
The only thing that kept me sane was the thought that some other schools seem to have to wear straw hats and kilts (or at least they are stocked in the place where I used to get my school uniform from)
Anything I could have added would have been a fluffed-up version of what I've already said, and I need the sleep I'd have lost coming up with a sufficient argument.TheLaofKazi said:
Besides, I agree with points on both sides... :/[/hypocrite]
I live in NZ. And, as we were once a British colony, are all about uniforms.
As such, I get to wear a blazer, knee high white socks, navy blue shorts, blue and black tie and a white shirt that must be constantly tucked in at all time, or detention.
This is the norm for any school that isn't rubbish.
Buddy, if you think you have it bad, the come here, and try a real uniform.
(Incidentally, my school is a public school)
As such, I get to wear a blazer, knee high white socks, navy blue shorts, blue and black tie and a white shirt that must be constantly tucked in at all time, or detention.
This is the norm for any school that isn't rubbish.
Buddy, if you think you have it bad, the come here, and try a real uniform.
(Incidentally, my school is a public school)
Uniforms are standard in the UK so i'm use to it. depending on the school the dress code varied, one school may just want a shirt and tie and another may want the full blazer, bassball cap etc.
yours sound like our "posh schools" one which usally have "Grammer school" instead of "High school" and is the one to demand blazers and almost everything the student wears with a school logo on.
yours sound like our "posh schools" one which usally have "Grammer school" instead of "High school" and is the one to demand blazers and almost everything the student wears with a school logo on.
Heathen! D:< I wanted to be a dressmaker as a kid <.<starfox444 said:
That and an astronaut and a motorcycle stunt rider #.# ... of course I have more skill at the sewing machine than I do the mathematic mindset or nerves of steel needed of the latter two.
Although in all seriousness, whilst I can understand (or possibly accomodate) people thinking fashion is a trivial delight, frankly I believe it to be an artform. All forms of artistic expression civilizes us.
Provides us a means to enjoy in pure extrospection the wonders of beauty ^_^
thats the same as my school, it costs 100 dollars for a basic jumper....100 dollars. We then have to buy more clothes for sport and this all costs loads of money, money that my family cannot afford.
Although i can see this from both sides. for example if a child is being discriminated against because he has bad clothes and what not, a uniform would eliminate that.
Although i can see this from both sides. for example if a child is being discriminated against because he has bad clothes and what not, a uniform would eliminate that.
Trust me,if you aren't living in Asia or the middle east,you haven't seen the strictest of all dress code.
From my point of view,I'm kinda okay with the dress codes because I think it's the easiest way to teach the kids....what do you call it? disciplines?
From my point of view,I'm kinda okay with the dress codes because I think it's the easiest way to teach the kids....what do you call it? disciplines?
Holy Shizen dude.
I live in the UK where all the schools have strictly enforced uniforms because while the schools teach you your individual and special they want you to look exactly like everyone else and the instant you dare to become an individual you get punished back into sheep mode.
God bless Church of England schools and their hypocracy.
Still, we get to wear stripped socks :s, I knew a few rebellious girls who ever had pictures on theirs!
Your school sounds like a laid back fascism. Yeah you HAVE to conform to THEIR standards and surrender your individualism but at least you get the choice to have a turtleneck!
I live in the UK where all the schools have strictly enforced uniforms because while the schools teach you your individual and special they want you to look exactly like everyone else and the instant you dare to become an individual you get punished back into sheep mode.
God bless Church of England schools and their hypocracy.
Still, we get to wear stripped socks :s, I knew a few rebellious girls who ever had pictures on theirs!
Your school sounds like a laid back fascism. Yeah you HAVE to conform to THEIR standards and surrender your individualism but at least you get the choice to have a turtleneck!
Wow our school is public and all we wear is a shirt with the school colours, pants with school colours, any kind of shoes except slip ons and our hair can be any length.
The dresscode in my schools has been around for years, i'm in my school clothes now. I was just asking a question about dress codes in schools and used my own as an exampleNouw said:
To me, the main plus point of uniforms in terms of the actual child was to prevent bullying based on parental income - in that by enforcing a 'look', they wouldn't get ripped on for not having this season's Nikes, that piece of jewellery, etc.
However, if you're making the uniform expensive then it stops about the only 'plus' of a uniform anyway.
Fortunately, most school uniforms in the UK seem to end up being the target of a supermarket price war, meaning you can clothe a kid for about £20, whereas it used to cost silly money when I was at school as it was all supplied by a private company who'd come in and issue order forms and deliver to the school, bleeding everyone dry as they did it.
However, if you're making the uniform expensive then it stops about the only 'plus' of a uniform anyway.
Fortunately, most school uniforms in the UK seem to end up being the target of a supermarket price war, meaning you can clothe a kid for about £20, whereas it used to cost silly money when I was at school as it was all supplied by a private company who'd come in and issue order forms and deliver to the school, bleeding everyone dry as they did it.
Oh my that is a strict dress code.
Get real, here in the UK we have to wear real uniforms. Blazers, trousers, white or blue shirts, plain black or grey socks no colours allowed at all. If your in years 10 and 11 (14-16) your allowed to wear a jumper. You yanks have it easy.
Get real, here in the UK we have to wear real uniforms. Blazers, trousers, white or blue shirts, plain black or grey socks no colours allowed at all. If your in years 10 and 11 (14-16) your allowed to wear a jumper. You yanks have it easy.
It's really weird the way your school is going about it; that is, bothering to strictly enforce a dress code, but not getting an actual uniform.
Personally, I think uniforms are for the best. I'm lazy as hell. Often I'll wear (wait for it) the same shirt two days in a row! Even when I don't, it looks like I do because most of my shirts are just plain and black, and i'll usually stock up on a few of the exact same shirts if they're comfortable. People, particularly girls (from my experience) are judged rather harshly on how they dress. This is tacky, that's 'skanky', that's ugly for one reason or another, that looks like the shirt you've been wearing for the past three days. Add to this that many young people are already insecure about their appearances. With a uniform, everyone dresses the same. You look horrible in it? Well, at least it's not your fault. Uniforms just simplify things, and they're no big deal really. Teenagers are too goddamn immature to be allowed too much freedom.
Strict enforcement, to the point where you get into considerable trouble just because you don't have your shirt tucked in is annoying, but not a huge deal either. Usually staff gets tired of enforcing it, so you only have to make sure you do it for certain classes, or during assemly, etc.
Personally, I think uniforms are for the best. I'm lazy as hell. Often I'll wear (wait for it) the same shirt two days in a row! Even when I don't, it looks like I do because most of my shirts are just plain and black, and i'll usually stock up on a few of the exact same shirts if they're comfortable. People, particularly girls (from my experience) are judged rather harshly on how they dress. This is tacky, that's 'skanky', that's ugly for one reason or another, that looks like the shirt you've been wearing for the past three days. Add to this that many young people are already insecure about their appearances. With a uniform, everyone dresses the same. You look horrible in it? Well, at least it's not your fault. Uniforms just simplify things, and they're no big deal really. Teenagers are too goddamn immature to be allowed too much freedom.
Strict enforcement, to the point where you get into considerable trouble just because you don't have your shirt tucked in is annoying, but not a huge deal either. Usually staff gets tired of enforcing it, so you only have to make sure you do it for certain classes, or during assemly, etc.
The one that went to the Supreme Court was anti-Vietnam War protest shirts. "Free speech" in the U.S. is more limited than most people on the interwebs would have you believe. It centers around political speech. So political speech is always more guarded than your right to say that orange is the new pink. There was also a District Court case that decided that as long as a shirt wasn't "offensive" it was protected, but that precedent doesn't cover the entire country.LivingInTheSixties said: