Poll: USA Invaded...by whom?
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Sun Tzu wrote about defeating armies belonging to actual nations. Antiterrorism is a different kind of fight entirely. The United States dominates completely when actual battles occur, but you can't very well battle suicide bombers casually walking around in public. All Sun Tzu says that could help in this situation is to gather intelligence, and the US been putting in quite a few resources into that front. Sun Tzu says nothing about helping the local population and preventing the indoctrination of more enemies. In fact, given that the US has quite the arms stockpile, taking Sun Tzu's advice would probably involve blowing up the entirety of every country that houses terrorists. Not a very good idea, is it?Lear said:
Sun Tzu may apply to skirmishes, but in a nuclear age where the enemy doesn't clearly display his colors, we need a new manual.
God that episode was the creepiest one yet!!!!The_root_of_all_evil said:Insanely easy.
And they've already done it.
Just look above you...
I actually have faith that we would beat back who ever is invading us just because so many of our civilians own guns. Heh good luck with the south Russia.
Anyways who the hell wants the USA? We are the fat person of the world. We have nothing of value. Oh we have golden bars. Yeah and what are you going to do when you get them? Store them some where else? This country can't even decide on the debt crisis and our house is terrible divided. Invading us would be like stealing some gangsters car. Sure if will be fun to do but once you have it your realize it wasn't worth the time, effort, and gang notoriety.
Also don't you mean Mexicans?
(Not racist just seems to fit better.)
Anyways who the hell wants the USA? We are the fat person of the world. We have nothing of value. Oh we have golden bars. Yeah and what are you going to do when you get them? Store them some where else? This country can't even decide on the debt crisis and our house is terrible divided. Invading us would be like stealing some gangsters car. Sure if will be fun to do but once you have it your realize it wasn't worth the time, effort, and gang notoriety.
Hey... Im full blood Irish. *sad face*Th3Ch33s3Cak3 said:
Also don't you mean Mexicans?
(Not racist just seems to fit better.)
This question is silly, even if you ignore the fact that most of the "armed" population of the US has no training so they're utterly worthless in a fight, there's still the problem of absolutely no one with the resources to invade. Not even China is a threat, their economy is so dependent on the US both countries would fold before the first planes arrived if war was declared.
"Communists... In SPAAAAAACE!!!"k-ossuburb said:
OT: A military invasion of the USA is next to impossible, if you count everything from global politics to the current technological state of warfare. Wars aren't fought today like they were 200, a hundred, or 50 years ago. Nuclear armaments and the global network of political alliances makes sure of that.
Due, your poll options are fucked, there are no options for the US losing. I would also include an other.Happy_Mutant said:
OT: No, the US won't be invaded. For one thing it's unlikely that another country would go up against another country with such a large army and an armed populace, but the more important thing is that the US is a member of the UN and NATO who will more than likely rush to the aid of the US should it ever happen. On top of that, the US has 5000 nuclear weapons at it's immediate disposal as well as the aforementioned alliances with multiple countries that can also provide nuclear attacks, should international law allow it.
Burgers. If there is one thing that we know, it would be Cheeseburgers.Monoochrom said:
<spoiler=I mean look at this beauty from the Squeeze Inn>
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OT: It is completely possible for the US to be invaded but it would be difficult to beat us. Firstly there is a lot of ground to cover, a lot of cities dotted around the place so a total conquest would be difficult. Secondly plenty of civilians would be willing to arm themselves and fight for the country, even if it is to no avail. Thirdly it wouldn't be that difficult to acquire weapons if we were invaded since gun stores carry Semi-Automatic Rifles. And law enforcement agencies across America are very heavily armed due to very violent bank robberies in the past.
I know it wasn't the purpose of your post but by God she is one beautiful lady.The_root_of_all_evil said:Insanely easy.
And they've already done it.
<spoiler=For shrinky>
Just look above you...
Good point. Large traditional armies don't do to well against terrorists and the ilk, so new rules partially based off old ones are needed.poppabaggins said:
We're already being invaded by Mexican imagrants, JK.
We've actually already been invaded by fear...
Well we brought it with us.
I dont think its likely at all for us to get invaded. We're friends with the strongest countries, we're constantly blowing our national paycheck on defense, China has a vested interest, and until August 2nd we're still the world's soul super power.
We've actually already been invaded by fear...
Well we brought it with us.
I dont think its likely at all for us to get invaded. We're friends with the strongest countries, we're constantly blowing our national paycheck on defense, China has a vested interest, and until August 2nd we're still the world's soul super power.
I voted yes, and that an armed population wouldn't make a difference.
The US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, and their population isn't exactly unarmed. Seemed to work just fine. Guns don't make you safe by simply existing.
It all really depends on how far you're willing to go.
If I were to invade the US I would first thin out the population with biological weapons. That way there'd be less resistance to deal with.
Whoever survives is easy prey, since it would be much easier to deal with a smaller population.
If you were to invade the US with the notion that you wouldn't need to fight anyone but army, then you'd just have a bunch of resistance fighters who would never give up. Because they know you're not willing to take extreme measures, so they have no counterbalance to their own goals. They have nothing to lose.
They'd keep fighting you forever. What you need to do is give them something to fear.
Mass genocide shows that you're serious, and whoever are left standing are too weak to resist you.
And over time they learn to accept it, and their children, children's children etc. who grow up in YOUR version of the US would eventually WANT it to be that way, since thats the only thing they know.
The US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, and their population isn't exactly unarmed. Seemed to work just fine. Guns don't make you safe by simply existing.
It all really depends on how far you're willing to go.
If I were to invade the US I would first thin out the population with biological weapons. That way there'd be less resistance to deal with.
Whoever survives is easy prey, since it would be much easier to deal with a smaller population.
If you were to invade the US with the notion that you wouldn't need to fight anyone but army, then you'd just have a bunch of resistance fighters who would never give up. Because they know you're not willing to take extreme measures, so they have no counterbalance to their own goals. They have nothing to lose.
They'd keep fighting you forever. What you need to do is give them something to fear.
Mass genocide shows that you're serious, and whoever are left standing are too weak to resist you.
And over time they learn to accept it, and their children, children's children etc. who grow up in YOUR version of the US would eventually WANT it to be that way, since thats the only thing they know.
A Japanese commander in WWII once remarked something close to, "If we invade the US mainland, there will be a gun behind every blade of grass."
Which is true, especially in the southern states like Alabama and Georgia. My house alone has 3 rifles, 2 shotguns, and 4 or 5 handguns running around (not counting my collection of swords and knives). The southern folks are so "patriotic" they likely would never surrender.
It amuses me they say they'd never let any foreigners take over the US, but wonder why people in the Middle East are fighting the foreign invaders.
Which is true, especially in the southern states like Alabama and Georgia. My house alone has 3 rifles, 2 shotguns, and 4 or 5 handguns running around (not counting my collection of swords and knives). The southern folks are so "patriotic" they likely would never surrender.
It amuses me they say they'd never let any foreigners take over the US, but wonder why people in the Middle East are fighting the foreign invaders.
Actually, switzerland would be harder to invade according to TV tropes.Happy_Mutant said:
And here's what it says:
And let's not forget Switzerland. Yes, eternally neutral. Good bankers and watchmakers. Want to stomp on them? Feel like walking into a small, mountainous region where every able-bodied male is conscripted into the military when they turn eighteen, serves until the age of thirty (sure, it's only three weeks a year, not unlike the National Guard, but still), and is required to keep an assault rifle and 50 rounds in his house at all times? Many choose to retain their service weapons as hunting rifles as well... About the only thing dumber than an invasion of Switzerland would be starting a land war in Asia.
There's an old story about Hermann Goering meeting with a Swiss official, when Nazi Germany was kicking everyone's ass, and asking what the Swiss would do if Germany decided to invade. Upon being told they could have 500,000 men mobilized within 24 hours, he then asked what would happen if Germany decided to invade with a million men. The response? "We'd shoot twice."
The Swiss have prepared and pre-surveyed defensive plans to protect every pass and tunnel usable as an invasion route, and also have a 220,000 man standing army. This is before they recall every able-bodied adult in the country into active service, remember.
Also, the mountains are nearly hollow because of the huge military installations hid within. Some of the bunkers even use small fake houses and huts as a disguise for the entry.
Swiss Mercenaries, meanwhile, were once so feared that a treaty specifically prevented them from being used in anyone's army. The treaty was signed more than one hundred years ago. It is still the law all over the world. Those are some scary mofos. And they also make great chocolate.
Let's put it this way, before it being abolished, the Swiss main export was their mercenaries.
Except for the Vatican. The Swiss Guard is, well, Swiss. And they do have guns, though ceremonial pikes are a lot less scary for the tourists.
Oh they have guns (they hide them in their silly outfits)
During WWII, Mussolini planned the invasion of Switzerland, figuring out that such a small country couldn't defend itself. Not only Switzerland had a multi-layered defensive line with bunkers, trenches, strongpoints and artillery lookouts deep enough to stop pretty much any contemporary army, but they were so paranoid that they dismantled it, finally convinced that they were not going to be invaded, only in 1970!
In the game Diplomacy and some of its ilk, it is often downright impossible to invade Switzerland. Not just hard? you're simply not allowed do it, even if you've already conquered the rest of the world.