Poll: Utopia?

[Brett Alex]

But yes, a very interesting read and it would be nice to think that his anarcho-communism would work in the long run, although its dubious if it would.

That could be said for anything, from capitalism to monarchy to Pastafarianism. People change their dependencies, society shifts its values, the world keeps turning

Oh so very true. It just seems like one of those "Wouldn't it be nice if..." stylers of leadership.

*Galt appears on a screen, his featureless face smiling at the crowds gathered below him*

"Citizen's of Galtopia! Rejoice! for we have finally removed the last of the dirty poor from our streets! At last! Our sidewalks are the envy of all nations, free from the parasitic nature of the homeless! Through the valiant struggles of our comrades serving on the Purplerainian Front, we have been able to preserve out grand society, and in doing so, create the best goddamn sidewalks in the world. I declare tomorrow a national holiday. Citizens marked as "anti-social deviants" will receive double ration of beatings! Go home my people! Drink yourselves silly as you watch your jackbooted overlords slap some anarchists around!"

Oh dear, this is going to lead to Election level narrating isn't it? I'm gonna have to break out the ol' Indefatigable Walrus aren't I?

 

[Mullahgrrl]

Im gonna go with Labby's first post, Democratic Anarcistic (although maby not anarchic) Communism combines the three best option for coexistance. Its like one of those Ice-cream boxes.

Although one should remember that Utopia is a originally a greek pun, and if you start to model your life on greek puns then there is litttle to be said for your future.

 

[ffxfriek]

i dont think theres such a thing as a utopia as long as there is anger out in the world and differences

 

[PurpleRain]

*Galt appears on a screen, his featureless face smiling at the crowds gathered below him*

"Citizen's of Galtopia! Rejoice! for we have finally removed the last of the dirty poor from our streets! At last! Our sidewalks are the envy of all nations, free from the parasitic nature of the homeless! Through the valiant struggles of our comrades serving on the Purplerainian Front, we have been able to preserve out grand society, and in doing so, create the best goddamn sidewalks in the world. I declare tomorrow a national holiday. Citizens marked as "anti-social deviants" will receive double ration of beatings! Go home my people! Drink yourselves silly as you watch your jackbooted overlords slap some anarchists around!"

Uh oh.

I'll grab my crowbar and HEV suit. Labrinth, start free running across the city delevering messages, Easy Kill dress up like Neo and perform some funky slow-mo shizz, Shanks, put on your Guy Fawlks(sp?) mask and blow some buildings up. We gotta tear this thing down.

 

[Deadarm]

My opinion... think Borg, and no I wouldnt want to be the one in charge. Thats the closest thing I can come up with. Complete loss of free will is the only way to avoid anything that anyone doesnt like.

 

[Amnestic]

*Galt appears on a screen, his featureless face smiling at the crowds gathered below him*

"Citizen's of Galtopia! Rejoice! for we have finally removed the last of the dirty poor from our streets! At last! Our sidewalks are the envy of all nations, free from the parasitic nature of the homeless! Through the valiant struggles of our comrades serving on the Purplerainian Front, we have been able to preserve out grand society, and in doing so, create the best goddamn sidewalks in the world. I declare tomorrow a national holiday. Citizens marked as "anti-social deviants" will receive double ration of beatings! Go home my people! Drink yourselves silly as you watch your jackbooted overlords slap some anarchists around!"

Uh oh.

I'll grab my crowbar and HEV suit. Labrinth, start free running across the city delevering messages, Easy Kill dress up like Neo and perform some funky slow-mo shizz, Shanks, put on your Guy Fawlks(sp?) mask and blow some buildings up. We gotta tear this thing down.

Oh I see, I'm not good enough for your cultural-reference centred resistance forces? Fine. I'll start my own resistance! With Blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the resistance!

 

[Labyrinth]

I'll grab my crowbar and HEV suit. Labrinth, start free running across the city delevering messages, Easy Kill dress up like Neo and perform some funky slow-mo shizz, Shanks, put on your Guy Fawlks(sp?) mask and blow some buildings up. We gotta tear this thing down.

Two steps ahead of you. I've even packed a thermo of coffee and my shanking knife.

Reload, Mr Rain.

 

[PurpleRain]

I'll grab my crowbar and HEV suit. Labrinth, start free running across the city delevering messages, Easy Kill dress up like Neo and perform some funky slow-mo shizz, Shanks, put on your Guy Fawlks(sp?) mask and blow some buildings up. We gotta tear this thing down.

Two steps ahead of you. I've even packed a thermo of coffee and my shanking knife.

Reload, Mr Rain.

(Looks down at his crowbar) Ahh, ok?

Wait I mean '...'

Oh I see, I'm not good enough for your cultural-reference centred resistance forces? Fine. I'll start my own resistance! With Blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the resistance!

Sigh, you can be... Han Solo.

 

[Amnestic]

Oh I see, I'm not good enough for your cultural-reference centred resistance forces? Fine. I'll start my own resistance! With Blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the resistance!

Sigh, you can be... Han Solo.

Well I suppose it's better than nothing. I'll even bring my own blaster pistol.

 

[Gitsnik]

If anarchy could exist in its true form, not chaos, but pure freedom, that would be a utopia.

You'd be happy for me to be permitted to kill your family on a whim? The very essence of anarchy would permit this.

I'm voting dictatorship, mostly because democracy seems to have failed.

 

[Reaperman Wompa]

Look up the "Gamer City" thread.

It could have been perfect!!

 

[Labyrinth]

Look up the "Gamer City" thread.

It could have been perfect!!

Until the lack of primary industry made it collapse.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

I don't know why communism gets such a bad rap. Its way better than anarchy and yet because there's no crazy mustached bloke to attach to anarchy its all fairies and rainbows...

Communism done right would be perfect. Everybody is the same there would be no rivals. No elitist pricks. No poor.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Look up the "Gamer City" thread.

It could have been perfect!!

Until the lack of primary industry made it collapse.

Who says we need a primary industry? We could go rape up the bum another country jacking all their resources.

 

[Reaperman Wompa]

Look up the "Gamer City" thread.

It could have been perfect!!

Until the lack of primary industry made it collapse.

Who says we need a primary industry? We could go rape up the bum another country jacking all their resources.

Exactly. Our main export would be domination. We don't need to actually create anything (Other than what we want) if we can just steal it. Technology over manpower.

 

[John Galt]

Yyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss...My plans for threadjacking are nearing completion.

The streets of Galtopia are bathed in searchlights as the Galtstapo hunts for miscreants to bludgeon on national television. Suddenly, a beam of light catches upon a coat whirling down below. The pilot diverts his attention to the object, preparing to swoop down into the alley to investigate, only to be distracted by one of the few vagrants left in the nation. Within minutes, the toothless bum is tossed into the back of a helicopter and flown to the State Beatings Facility.

Meanwhile, under the cover of the thin alley paving, a group meets in a brightly lit cellar. All of them dressed in weird uniforms, none meeting the National Cosplay Standards (a crime punishable by being publicly critiqued by an appointed board, mind you). The man in the orange and purple jumpsuit took to the center of the floor, his crowbar hanging in a small sling at his side.

"My fellow freedom-fighters! If we are to stage our uprising, then we must do it now. Surely the Galtstapo will be too preoccupied getting hammered and beating up bums so we actually have a chance to move now! Go my comrades! Let's go smash and burn things in the name of freedom!"

And with that, the group dispersed, each going off into the city to spread their own unique brand of discontent and civil disobedience.

 

[Labyrinth]

Exactly. Our main export would be domination.

My first though was "Fuck off, I'm not being exported." Then I realised it was a slightly different context. I do however believe that the rest of the world would turn around and beat us down for that.

 

[Brett Alex]

Uh oh.
I'll grab my crowbar and HEV suit. Labrinth, start free running across the city delevering messages, Easy Kill dress up like Neo and perform some funky slow-mo shizz, Shanks, put on your Guy Fawlks(sp?) mask and blow some buildings up. We gotta tear this thing down.

Sweet! Guy Fawkes, my favourite person-from-history-who-likes-to-blow-things-up. I'm also gonna take a sock filled with half a brick, as is per usual for me.

 

[Dys]

I'd argue for anarchic communism, which isn't up there.

And before someone decides to tell me that 'this is a contradiction' please remember that Anarchy is the lack of a centralised power government, not necessarily chaos. This also means that you can have direct democracy, with people deciding what happens when it is relative to them.

So Democratic anarchic communism.

Its interesting how much, by definition, communism and democracy overlap.
And an anarchy based society could very well work for either or both
No true communist or democratic society has ever existed, but if we had an example of each to compare, I think we'd find that the way they function is very nearly identical (both are, by definition, about making people equal).
At any rate theres no chance of the utopia dream ever being realised, and if there was the politcal system by definition would be called (at least by marx's logic) communism, as communism was the hypothetical polital make up of utopia.

 

[PurpleRain]

Yyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss...My plans for threadjacking are nearing completion.

The streets of Galtopia are bathed in searchlights as the Galtstapo hunts for miscreants to bludgeon on national television. Suddenly, a beam of light catches upon a coat whirling down below. The pilot diverts his attention to the object, preparing to swoop down into the alley to investigate, only to be distracted by one of the few vagrants left in the nation. Within minutes, the toothless bum is tossed into the back of a helicopter and flown to the State Beatings Facility.

Meanwhile, under the cover of the thin alley paving, a group meets in a brightly lit cellar. All of them dressed in weird uniforms, none meeting the National Cosplay Standards (a crime punishable by being publicly critiqued by an appointed board, mind you). The man in the orange and purple jumpsuit took to the center of the floor, his crowbar hanging in a small sling at his side.

"My fellow freedom-fighters! If we are to stage our uprising, then we must do it now. Surely the Galtstapo will be too preoccupied getting hammered and beating up bums so we actually have a chance to move now! Go my comrades! Let's go smash and burn things in the name of freedom!"

And with that, the group dispersed, each going off into the city to spread their own unique brand of discontent and civil disobedience.

Look, my idea of civil obedience is continuosly beat the civil protection to death until there are none left. Also some antlions could be handy. Man, anarchy is so fun.
"Fuck the system! Unfuck the world!"