I still don't understand why they didn't just go with the leaked ending.Silentpony said:Wasn't the whole problem that it was rewritten on the fly? I was on the Bioware forums, HOLDING THE LINE!, when the game first dropped and the ending shat the bed. I remember seeing a Dev post on one of the threads that the original ending had been leaked, so it was scrapped, and only one of the writers had time to write the new ending, and it wasn't given to the other writers too proof-read, edit and keep in tone, and was rushed into animation and voice acting.
Its no excuse for sloppy writing, but I think it was less a bad script and more a rough draft over a burger at lunchtime patch-job.
I'd say it's both how we got there and what we got that people are pissed at.Worgen said:I'm still seeing what sounds like most of you are pissed at how you got to the ending rather then the ending itself. That the ending was only bad since ultimately none of your game choices mattered at all and you just chose one of 3 different things right at the end.
I'd argue the Earth should never have functioned as the centre of the whole conflict to begin with. This makes it fall into the typical scenario with these space tales that humans are "the special", and it clashes tonally knowing the Reapers are vaporizing the Earth while you're off goofing around on the Citidal. But then the same could be said about the other planets getting fried, which calls into question having the backdrop of ME3 be the Reaper war.Aerosteam said:The game went downhill after leaving Earth.
Agreed. I understand not wanting to be spoiled, but if a script is leaked, implying Bioware didn't want it known, then its on the gamers not to read the script and keep themselves unspoiled, as opposed to Bioware needing to do a day-1 rewrite of the entire thing.Souplex said:I still don't understand why they didn't just go with the leaked ending.Silentpony said:Wasn't the whole problem that it was rewritten on the fly? I was on the Bioware forums, HOLDING THE LINE!, when the game first dropped and the ending shat the bed. I remember seeing a Dev post on one of the threads that the original ending had been leaked, so it was scrapped, and only one of the writers had time to write the new ending, and it wasn't given to the other writers too proof-read, edit and keep in tone, and was rushed into animation and voice acting.
Its no excuse for sloppy writing, but I think it was less a bad script and more a rough draft over a burger at lunchtime patch-job.
Anti-spoiler culture is ruining media.
No, even ignoring the choices not meaning anything, I still find it bad because it was a bunch of utter nonsense that told us that suddenly the Geth-Quarian conflict was apparently the very center of what Mass Effect was all about and then we resolved all conflict in the galaxy by blowing everything up with space magic and then...infecting everyone with magic nanobots or something? It was a white hot mess.Worgen said:I'm still seeing what sounds like most of you are pissed at how you got to the ending rather then the ending itself. That the ending was only bad since ultimately none of your game choices mattered at all and you just chose one of 3 different things right at the end.
Smells like the usual EA's decision making genius at work to me.Souplex said:I still don't understand why they didn't just go with the leaked ending.Silentpony said:Wasn't the whole problem that it was rewritten on the fly? I was on the Bioware forums, HOLDING THE LINE!, when the game first dropped and the ending shat the bed. I remember seeing a Dev post on one of the threads that the original ending had been leaked, so it was scrapped, and only one of the writers had time to write the new ending, and it wasn't given to the other writers too proof-read, edit and keep in tone, and was rushed into animation and voice acting.
Its no excuse for sloppy writing, but I think it was less a bad script and more a rough draft over a burger at lunchtime patch-job.
Anti-spoiler culture is ruining media.
Technically your decisions did matter.Worgen said:I'm still seeing what sounds like most of you are pissed at how you got to the ending rather then the ending itself. That the ending was only bad since ultimately none of your game choices mattered at all and you just chose one of 3 different things right at the end.
EA is well known for pushing release dates up too. My bro's GF worked on Andromeda and she said EA pushed the game release up by 6 months to free up more people to work on Star Wars so it could make movie's release date. And yes, after Andromeda flopped, she and her entire team were put to work on Battlefront 2.CaitSeith said:Smells like the usual EA's decision making genius at work to me.Souplex said:I still don't understand why they didn't just go with the leaked ending.Silentpony said:Wasn't the whole problem that it was rewritten on the fly? I was on the Bioware forums, HOLDING THE LINE!, when the game first dropped and the ending shat the bed. I remember seeing a Dev post on one of the threads that the original ending had been leaked, so it was scrapped, and only one of the writers had time to write the new ending, and it wasn't given to the other writers too proof-read, edit and keep in tone, and was rushed into animation and voice acting.
Its no excuse for sloppy writing, but I think it was less a bad script and more a rough draft over a burger at lunchtime patch-job.
Anti-spoiler culture is ruining media.
Agreed. The pathological desire for individualism killed legion and his race. This was sharply changed from mass effect 2 where the Geth made it pretty clear that they were happy with themselves the way they were. Legion even has a line, I think in their loyalty mission, where they say so outright by saying that they don't want any part in the organics praised individuality. So yeah, that one was a thorn in my sight too.votemarvel said:Edit: Oh and a small rant about the ending of the Rannoch arc. No matter what we pick the Geth as a race are destroyed.
Remember why Legion was called Legion in the first place? It was because there were thousands of individual Geth in that hardware platform. Yet even in the good ending those beings are killed! They are merged into a new singular being. We do the digital version of what the Reapers do to organic races.
I should perhaps reply to this specifically: what a strange question. When people say the ending they mean the last bit of the game, not the end result of it in canon. They also tend to see the ending in relation to the larger whole of mass effect 1, 2 and 3 and in that relation there was little to no build up to the specific endings we got. Something journey road.Worgen said:So I didn't hate the ending of ME3, I actually thought the ending itself was pretty good, granted I did play it awhile after release when they had expanded the ending. The neding itself that I got was good, the everyone joining the singularity ending, the problem I had wasn't the ending, it was how you got to the ending. Just letting you choose what ending you wanted from like 4 different ones was super lazy.
With the sheer amount of characters and how polarized the fanbase is regarding them, it seems impossible for 2/3 of people NOT to be pissed off nomatter how it ends.Samtemdo8 said:I am just extremely worried that Game of Thrones will suffer the same fate as Mass Effect 3.