Poll: Wellfare Waste
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I think the whole of the Welfare system needs an overhall. But we have neither the means, the plan, or the man (or woman) with the balls to do anything about it.
In Australia that's called Super-Annuation. The Old Age Pension is for people over 65 that do not have sufficient assets and savings considered enough to live on, with the amount adjusted on a sliding scale if your assets are worth more than some arbitrary minimum amount but less than the arbitrary maximum amount (the point at which you get bugger all).fenrizz said:
I'm on a Disability Support Pension and I can spend it on whatever the hell I fancy... mostly I fancy food and working utilities but whatever is left over I can smoke, drink or even stick up my arse for all that it's anybody else's business and anyone who thinks they can dictate to me otherwise will probably end up picking bits of whiskey bottle out of their face.
$25,000? That's chump change compared to the billions that are lavished on big corporations by the government.
I think it's the mentality that stretches from teh Great Depression and beyond. People ahd that feeling of, "Just this one nickel and I can turn it all around"
Too bad they aren't very lucky.
Too bad they aren't very lucky.
Apparently they aren't and should instead be cowering under their beds in shame, afraid to show their immoral visages to the hard working tax payer.ravensheart18 said:
Fair play to you, Mr Rhombus.
Lot of hate here for the welfare recipients. According to a recent report (summarised here [http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=usunemployment&met=unemployment_rate&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=us+unemployment+rate]) the jobless rate is pushing 10% in the States right now. I know a lot of these poor buggers won't be taking welfare because of the stigma attached, but that still leaves a tremendous number on government life support- up to tens of millions, by the figures.
According to the website linked above, Minnesota has a 6.8% unemployment rate and a population of about 5.25m. By my simple calculations, if as many as 1% of their unemployed are going to casinos, they're only spending $7 each to make up that $25000 number, although you don't say how long a period this money was doled out over. A month? A year?
Have any of you guys complaining about where your hard-earned tax dollars are going ever been laid off? Been unemployed for a long period? I have, and the impact on self-confidence is incredible as knockback after knockback rolls in. Overqualified, not enough experience, too much experience in an irrelevent field and flat out "no"s. I'm not surprised that a small number of these fellas in Minnesota are going out and either trying to win big or just enjoying the glamour for a while betweeen disappointments. Or, as others have said, maybe a few of them just have a problem- in which case they deserve help, not disdain.
-Nick
Lot of hate here for the welfare recipients. According to a recent report (summarised here [http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=usunemployment&met=unemployment_rate&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=us+unemployment+rate]) the jobless rate is pushing 10% in the States right now. I know a lot of these poor buggers won't be taking welfare because of the stigma attached, but that still leaves a tremendous number on government life support- up to tens of millions, by the figures.
According to the website linked above, Minnesota has a 6.8% unemployment rate and a population of about 5.25m. By my simple calculations, if as many as 1% of their unemployed are going to casinos, they're only spending $7 each to make up that $25000 number, although you don't say how long a period this money was doled out over. A month? A year?
Have any of you guys complaining about where your hard-earned tax dollars are going ever been laid off? Been unemployed for a long period? I have, and the impact on self-confidence is incredible as knockback after knockback rolls in. Overqualified, not enough experience, too much experience in an irrelevent field and flat out "no"s. I'm not surprised that a small number of these fellas in Minnesota are going out and either trying to win big or just enjoying the glamour for a while betweeen disappointments. Or, as others have said, maybe a few of them just have a problem- in which case they deserve help, not disdain.
-Nick
Damn. I thought this said "Waffle Waste"
now I is disappoint...
Anyway, I don't have much to comment on. Yeah, the state of welfare for some is just sickening and the fact that you can use it on gambling it ridiculous but... eh. What are you gonna do about it? That's what people chose to spend their money on. 25,000 dollars isn't a whole lot compared to the amount spent on other government bullshit.
now I is disappoint...
Anyway, I don't have much to comment on. Yeah, the state of welfare for some is just sickening and the fact that you can use it on gambling it ridiculous but... eh. What are you gonna do about it? That's what people chose to spend their money on. 25,000 dollars isn't a whole lot compared to the amount spent on other government bullshit.
That's an obvious answer - no.
That money is there for low income families to buy necessities to live, not gamble.
That money is there for low income families to buy necessities to live, not gamble.
if people are found to be gambling with welfare money they should be given food stamps instead or something.
i can see maybe $10 or so if your out and your friends are gambling a little but putting like $100 or more through the pokies etc is just bad. Gambling is like a million or billion dollar industry, you dont make big bucks like that by letting everyone win.
and i bet if they win they wouldnt report the earning to the welfare office either.
just so you know im on welfare atm. im looking for a job and all that and i wouldnt even consider gambling with my money.
i can see maybe $10 or so if your out and your friends are gambling a little but putting like $100 or more through the pokies etc is just bad. Gambling is like a million or billion dollar industry, you dont make big bucks like that by letting everyone win.
and i bet if they win they wouldnt report the earning to the welfare office either.
just so you know im on welfare atm. im looking for a job and all that and i wouldnt even consider gambling with my money.
You shouldn't be going out with anybody if you're on welfare, you should be at home flagellating yourself in repentance for not having a job and practicing tugging your forelock to taxpayers.Merkavar said:
And heaven forfend you had the gall to be disabled and unable to work. Why, in this day and age, the very thought disabled people deserve a decent quality of life should be scoffed at, the layabouts. how -dare- they be too ill to work.RhombusHatesYou said:
Whatever you do with your welfare money is what you do with it.
It's like if you have a great job and you gamble so much of it away every month that your kids can't eat some nights, is that wrong?
Of course your children are being punished, but who can stop that person from doing that.
It's like if you have a great job and you gamble so much of it away every month that your kids can't eat some nights, is that wrong?
Of course your children are being punished, but who can stop that person from doing that.
Part of freedom is the choice for those with addiction to spend all of their assets on said addiction... unfortunately.
Welfare should be the bare minimum to survive until the recipient can find work. By all means gamble with it, but then they won't eat.
That, is a hell of an idea, then you can claim her on welfare and get even more money!RhombusHatesYou said:
I didn't even buy USED games when I was on unemployment, because I thought it was wrong.mb16 said: